MEETING ON S. 1035- 24 JANUAURY 1968

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• Publication Date: January 25, 1968
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25 January 1968
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting on S. 1035 - 24 January 1968
1. Messrs. Houston, Warner, I I r~
met with repre-
sentatives from the Civil Service Commission, Department of Defense,
NSA, AEC, and Department of State to consider the problems presented
by S. 1035 and a future course of action. (See attached list of participants.)
2. Discussion was preceded by the Agency security reindoctrina-
tion program lecture in order to point up the motivations in past defections
from the U. S. intelligence community, which by extrapolation would point
up the inherent problems to be anticipated if S. 1035 becomes law. All
of the visitors felt the lecture was extremely good, particularly for this
purpose.
3. In the general discussion following the lecture Mr. Kingsley,
of AEC, suggested that we should consider a joint presentation to the
House Subcommittee on the specific problems which S. 1035 creates for
the intelligence community. Mr. Lyerly, of State, suggested that the
problem is a very basic one of protecting the national security as against
the protection of the constitutional rights of employees. He felt that there
needs to be a definition as to the point at which national security consider-
ations will override employee considerations. Mr. Pellerzi, of Civil
Service Commission, felt that the case has not been fully made with the
Congress for the need for an exemption of the intelligence community
from the bill. He felt that national security and the executive privilege
resulting therefrom have been overused in Washington to the point that
they are no longer meaningful in Congress. He felt that we need to document
our case with specific examples. Pellerzi noted that CSC will not oppose
the first section of the bill, but will go all out in opposition to the enforce-
ment sections as well as the section providing legal counsel at the initiation
of an inquiry.
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4. Although no specific conclusions were reached, it is believed
that a rapport was developed among those participating which has not
previously existed and that we will obtain much more support in opposition
to the bill than we received when it was in the Senate.
Assistant Legislative Counsel
Attachment:
List of participants
Distribution:
Orig. - Subject
1 - Chrono
OLC/CEA:rw (26 January 1968)
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24 January 1968
Mr. Leo M. Pellerzi
General Counsel
Civil Service Commission
Mr. Robert J. Andrews
Office of Assistant General Counsel
(Manpower and Reserve Affairs)
Department of Defense
enera ounse
National Security Agency
Mr. Charles Bechhoefer
Office of General Counsel
Atomic Energy Commission
Mr. Sidney G. Kingsley
Assistant General Counsel
Administration and Legislation
Atomic Energy Commission
Mr. Robert Tharp
Division of Security, Personal Security
Atomic Energy Commission
Mr. J. Edward Lyerly
Deputy Legal Adviser for Administration
Department of State
Mr. James H. Michel
Legal Office
Department of State
Mr. G. Marvin Gentile
Deputy Assistant Secretary (Security)
Department of State
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