CONVERSATION WITH SECRETARY AND DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, 28 JANUARY 1980 (Sanitized)

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• Publication Date: January 29, 1980
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29 January 1980
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Conversation with Secretary and De ut Secretary
of Defense, 28 January 1980
1. Only the Deputy Secre was present for the entire meeting;
Secretary Brown came in late.
I promised to send Deputy Secretary Claytor a copy of the memo
1. read the. other day summarizing our views on. this subject and concluding
that we had only two reports from a source that had been unreliable in the
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3. The Deputy Secretary expressed appreciation of our support for
their program on preemptive releases. I emphasized that we were all for
it as long as intelligence equities were well considered.
I note in the last paragraph of the Brown terms'of reference
for the new group it says that release will only be made after comments
are received from the head of the intelligence agency who produced the
report. That's fine, but I think we ought to add to that "and the DCI"
since the DCI is responsible for all sources and methods. I I
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5. Secretary Brown raised a concern with NIE 11-3/8. We show
a range of possible outcomes in number of Soviet warheads if the Soviets
adhere to the SALT limitations (the one RV versus ten RV issue). We do
not show any range for the no-SALT cases. The Secretary is concerned
that this gives an impression that we are more confident of the no-SALT
numbers than we are of the SALT numbers. Of course that is not the case
in fact. We should look either at putting a.shaded area on those curves
or some words in the text to emphasize that there are considerable
uncertainties here, but that the r nap nf uncertainties cannot be as
easily defined as that under SALT.
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6. 1 discussed thel issue with Secretary Brown who
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7. We discussed the intelligence initiative legislation in considerable
detail.
I failed to ask him if there were any special things we ought
to-try to get through for DIA at this time. I'd like a tickler to raise
that again with General Tighe and with Admiral Inman. I wonder if.this
might be a moment to ask if they couldn't have the same exceptions from
.Civil Service hiring rules, that we do.
8. I discussed thel The Secretary wasn't
quite aware that there was a problem with the security.
9. I gave him the articles by Jim Stockdale.
10. The solid propellant issue. didn't . come. up. F
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