MINUTES OF THE SIXTEENTH MEETING OF THE USIB ELINT COMMITTEE HELD IN DIRECTOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, CIA

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• Publication Date: June 11, 1959
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MINUTES OF THE SIXTEENTH MEETING OF THE USIB ELINT COMMITTEE
Held in Director's Conference Room, Administration Building, CIA
Colonel Charles P. Richman. USAF, Chairman
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PRESENT :
DEFENSE:
NSA:
CIA:
ARMY:
NAVY:
AIR FORCE:
JOINT STAFFS
EXECUTIVE SECRETARY:
TECHNICAL ASSISTANT:
ALSO PRESENT:
DEFENSE:
NSA:
CIA:
ARMY:
NAVY:
SECRETARIAT:
Mr. Grady C. Frank
Captain William M. Stevens
Lt. Colonel Louis J. Anderson
(for Colonel William F. Scott)
Colonel George E. Perry, USAF
Colonel Chas. M. Townsend, USAF
Mr. Philip G. Merta
Dr. John P. Gigrich
Arnie L. Millican, Lt. Col., USAR (Ret.)
Mr. Herbert Taylor
Lt. Commander Harry B. Pitcher
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NSA
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NSA
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USIB-EE-~ Item 1 on the Agenda for the Sixteenth Meeting of the
ELINT Committee, held on 11 June 1959.
Subject: Approval of the Minutes of the Fifteenth Meeting.
PROBLEM:
To approve the Minutes of the Fifteenth Meeting of the ELINT Committee
which had been submitted to the Members.
DECISION: (11 June 1959)
The Minutes of the Fifteenth Meeting were unanimously approved.
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USIB-EE- 29,/26 Item 2 on the Agenda for the Sixteenth Meeting of the
FLINT Committee, held on 11 June 1959.
Subject: Draft DCID on Conduct of ELINT Liaison.
PROBLEK:
To consider the advisability of including ELINT in draft DCID 6/10
(which was referred,to the Committee by the COMINT Committee), or promul-
gating a.separate directive.
DISCUSSION:
As requested at the previous meeting, the NSA Member submitted a new
draft on ELINT liaison which treated the subject separate from COMINT, and
this draft was considered in detail by the Committee (enclosure with
USIB-EE-29./23).
The Members effected some minor changes in the NSA draft. The CIA
Member raised the question of the inclusion of in the title and 25X1X7
text of the directive. He questioned the appropriateness in. view of the 25X1X7
fact that NSCID 6 (Par. 8a) does not include_____________
The Members accepted the NSA draft as amended, but the CIA Member said
he would have to reserve his position until he could get a CIA position on
the inclusion of He also noted that the Committee would later
have to consider ose eases of liaison where CIA is the Executive Agent
as well as the cases covered in the directive where NSA *the Executive 25X1X7
Agent. The CIA Member will report his resolution of the
question to the Executive Secretary to permit early submission o e draft
directive for USIB consideration.
DECISION: (11 June 1959)
To approve the draft 'rective'submitted the NSA Member on conduct 25X1X7
of ELINT liaison with the the CIA
Member reserves his position wa regar o e 25X1X7
and will report his Agency's firm view to the Executive Secr
resolution.
The COMINT Committee to be advised that it was not possible to con-
solidate ELINT matters in the COMINT directive, DCID 6/10, and that a
separate directive is being submitted for USIB approval.
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NSA CONCURS IN ALL REDACTIONS ON THIS
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ITEM 2 (CONTwD)
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ACTION FOR U. S. INTELLIGENCE BOARD:
To coristasr. a, ro,ral,of draft DCID No. 6 20 "Conduct of ELINT 25X1X7
Liaisor4 with th "
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NOTE: Above ELINT liaison directive is being renumbered as DCID 6/20.
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USIB-EE- 4./15 Item 3 on the Agenda for the Sixteenth Meeting of the
ELINT Committee, held on 11 June 1959.
Subject: Subcommittee Structure of the ELINT Committee.
PROBLEM:
To resolve the status of the Special ELINT Advisory Group (SEAG).
DISCUSSION:
At the last meeting, interested Members had been requested to submit
any views on the problem for Committee consideration. No papers were
received, however.
The NSA Member noted that his Agency was the broker for all ELINT
requirements, NSA is in a position
to handle the ma er, it would be
referred to CIA. He considered, however, that the mechanism for handling
this problem should not be part of the sub-structure of the FLINT
Committee.
Although it was generally conceded that SEAG served a useful purpose,
the consensus of the Committee was that this body should not be a standing
sub-committee of the ELINT Committee.
The OSD Member noted that SEAG was designed mostly for guidance of
CIA in sensitive ELINT matters and that the group could continue on an ad
hoc basis to meet on call as needed.
The Chairman recommended that he be authorized to send the SEAG
files to CIA and that CIA be authorized to convene an ad hoc committee
(SEAG type) as needed to advise on sensitive operations, specifically
ways and means of meeting requirements. The Committee accepted this view.
The NSA Member stated that requirements would be certified by NSA;
if their fulfillment could not be met by overt means, they would be placed
on CIA for sensitive type action.
DECISION: (11 June 1959)
The Special FLINT Advisory Group (SEAG) will not be a formal sub-
committee of the ELINT Committee.
An advisory group (such as SEAG), utilizing approved requirements,
is required on an ad hoc basis. However, further action on its status
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will be deferred until future operations show the need for the type of
group required. The matter will be reviewed by the ELINT Committee at a
later date if circumstances indicate the need for further consideration.
In the meantime, CIA is authorized to determine and utilize such facilities
as will fit its own needs.
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SUBJECT NIAKBER.
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Item 6 on the Agenda for the Sixteenth Meeting of the
Subject:
ELINT Committee, held on 11 June 1959.
COMINT/ELINT Arrangements with th
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PROBLEM:
& NSA 25X9
To determine a course of action on the matter of ELINT arrangements
with the which had been referred to the Committee by USIB at
the 19 May ar meeting (USIB M-39).
DISCUSSION:
The Chairman introduced the subject, discussed the overall situation
and the joint working group proposed by the COMINT Committee. He outlined
the task of the working group, noting that it was to develop long range
objectives and if appropriate, procedures for gaining these objectives.
The Committee concurred in the COMINT Committee recommendation for
approaching the problem through a joint working group. The Members were
polled with regard to their nominations to this group, and the following
nominations were submitted:
OSD
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None
STATE
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None
NSA
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ARMY
- Mr. Ernest Knorr (also COMINT)
NAVY
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CDR. Donald M. Showers (also COMINT)
AIR FORCE
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(to be reported later)
CIA
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(reported after meeting)
JOINT STAFF
- Maj. William R. Culmer, USA (also COMINT)
CIA will make the arrangements for a meeting place for the ad hoc
group.
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ITEM 6 (CONT'D)
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DECISION: (11 June 1959)
To approve the recommendation of the COMINT Committee for a joint
COMINT/ELINT working grow to develop an approach to the problem of 25X9A8
arrangements; with the and develop a statement of long range & NSA 25X9
objectives as well as eference for such arrangements.
To nominate membership for participation in this working group.
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USIB-EE-35>/2 Item. 7 on the Agenda for the Sixteenth Meeting of the
ELINT Committee, held on 11 June 1959.
Subject: Emergency Planning.
PROBLEM:
To consider a course of action to meet the requirement placed on the
Committee by USIB (USIB-ESE-35./1) to 41report plans for its operation and
for intelligence community functioning in its assigned field of responsi-
bility, in time of emergency".
DISCUSSION:
It was noted that USIB's instructions called for a report by all
committees of the Board by 1 October 1959. This report involves not only
operation of the committee, but also the functioning of the entire FLINT
field within the intelligence community.
The Joint Staff Member reported that the additional guidance which
was being prepared by the Joint Staff in concert with OSD should be
available to the Members around 1 July. He recommended that formal
Committee action be deferred until this additional guidance was available,
but that Members give individual preliminary consideration to the problems
involved within their respective departments and agencies. This recom-
mendation was adopted.
The Chairman pointed out that the task placed on the Committee
involved a look at all ELINT facilities, including support elements not
centralized under NSA jurisdiction. The Members must consider all
alternatives in reviewing the plans of their respective organizations.
DECISION: (11 June 1959)
To defer further consideration to the next regular meeting, pending
receipt of additional guidance being prepared by the Joint Staff.
Meantime, Members to review emergency or war plans within their respective
departments and agencies with a view to being prepared to discuss the
subject with full knowledge of background.
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USIB-EE- 29,11/3 Item not on the Agenda for the Sixteenth Meeting of the
ELINT Committee, held on 11 June 1959.
Subject: U. S. CINCEUR Intelligence Liaison Office (ILO, ). 25X1X7
To determine the Committee's position and recommendation to USIB with
reference to a proposal by EUCOM to reduce the staff of the U. S. CINCEUR
25X1X7 Intelligence Liaison Office (ILO
DISCUSSION;
The Chairman presented the problem, reading from a memorandum from the
OSD Member of USIB and its enclosures, which had been received by the
Secretariat too late to be circulated to the Members.
25X1X7 The ILO in has had limited activity during the past year of its
operation. EUCCP recommends that the staff be reduced to one junior
officer supported by An enlisted clerk, and that present incumbents be
phased out by normal attrition.
The Chairman pointed out that a senior officer (Grade 0-6) had been
25X1X7 originally selected because he had to apply intelligence judgment in
-rnis requirement sti.L.L exists, r urtner, ne re.Lt tnat re.iations witn the
25X1X7 would be adversely affected if this liaison position were downgraded
to a junior officer.
The Members discussed the requirement for 24-hour communications
operations to support the ILO. It was also noted that with one officer,
there would be no back-up or succession of authority in the event of the
officer's absence. The Members considered that whereas the ILO staff
could be reduced, a senior officer in the grade of Colonel or equivalent
should be retained if the function is to continue.
As the ILO also handles COMINT matters, it was agreed that FLINT
Committee views should be forwarded to the COMINT Committee for a CCIINT/
FLINT recommendation to USIB.
DECISION: (11 June 1959)
To concur in the EUCOM recommendation on the desirability of reducing
the staff of the ILO, but to recommend that a senior officer in the grade
of Colonel or equivalent, be retained,
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ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA (CONTID)
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The matter of determining clerical assistance needs for the ILO to be
left to EUCOM.
The communication to EUCOM advising that headquarters of any USIB
decision should point out the need for 24-hour communications operations for
the ILO Office, and the requirement to determine the succession of authority
for releasing and sanitizing material in the event of the ILO's absence.
ACTION FOR U. S. INTELLIGENCE BOARD:
NOTE: The ELINT Committee's views and recommendations have been forwarded
to the COMINT Committee with USIB-CC-29.13,/1.
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SECRETARY'S NOTES:
1. The Sixteenth Meeting, 11 June 1959, came to order at 0900.
2. Item 4 of the Agenda, ELINT Matters for Further Attention by the
ELINT Committee was deferred for a later meeting. The Technical Assistant
advised that he had nothing new to report at this time.
3. Item 5 of the Agenda, Policy on Release of ELINT, was deferred to
the next regular. meeting. The Members had not had time to consider the
latest papers circulated on the subject.
4. The Committee is reverting to its regular schedule of meetings,
i.e., the third Thursday of each month, at 1000 hours. The next meeting
will be held on 16 July at 1000.
5. With reference to Item 2, subsequent to the meeting the Executive
25X1X7 Secretary was advised by the CIA Member that CIA was withdrawing their
objection to the inclusion of in DCID No. 6/20.. This is 25X1X7
conditional, however, on the assurance at the omission of
from NSCID #6 be brought to the attention of the DCI and US
matter is presented for Board consideration.
6. The meeting adjourned at 1130.
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