CONTACT BY SENATE INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE STAFFER

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP84-00933R000300100004-6
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
• Document Release Date: July 24, 2001
• Sequence Number: 4
• Publication Date: April 25, 1977
• Content Type: MFR

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ODP 769-77
25 April 1977
FROM Clifford D. May, Jr.
Director of Data Processing
SUBJECT: Contact by Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee
Staffer
1. On 15 April 1977 I was contacted by phone by Mr.
Tom Moore, a member of the staff of the Senate. Intelligence
Oversight Committee. We had a meeting with Mr. Moore earlier
in the week under the sponsorship of the Comptroller, to go
over a number of questions that Mr. Moore had regarding the
proposed reduction in the CIA ADP budget. Mr. Moore wanted
to know whether he could resolve a couple of questions over
the phone, or whether they would be too sensitive to discuss
on an unclassified telephone. I told him to fire the questions
at me and I would answer only those that appeared to be re-
lated to unclassified information.
2. The first question Mr. Moore asked pertained to
our plan to purchase a 370/168 computer for use in GC-47 in
support of the DDO requirements. Mr. Moore asked whether
this 168 computer and the other computers in the DDO Center
supported only DDO requirements. I told Mr. Moore that this
Center is operated primarily in support of the DDO require-
ments, as explained in our original meeting with Mr. Moore.
However, in the night hours, when the on-line DDO service is
closed down, we take over the computers in this Center and
use them to support the spillover of Batch-type service from
our main Computer Center. I told Mr. Moore that the CAMS
computer that we had referred to earlier is physically instal-
led in the same Center as the two machines used in support
of the DDO. The CAMS machine is used in a very time-sensitive
operation and has a requirement that it not be out of service
for more than an hour at any given time. Accordingly, it was
necessary for us to make arrangements to provide a backup
facility to use in the event that the main CAMS computer
failed for an extended period of time. We have reached an
agreement with DDO giving us preempt authority over one of
the two machines that are normally used in the DDO service.
In the event of failure of the CAMS computer, we would preempt
one of the two 370/158's in the DDO Center and convert that
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computer for use in the CAMS operation. In summarizing, I
told Mr. Moore that the machines used normally for DDO
operations are employed for two other purposes: 1) to back
up our main Center with a Batch capability at night, and 2)
to back up the CAMS computer in the event it fails and it
appears that there will be an extended outage.
3. Mr. Moore then wanted to know whether the 370/168
computer that we planned for FY-78 would be fully loaded by
DDO at the time of its installation. He also wanted to know
when we expected to install the computer. I told him that we
hoped to get the computer in before the end of the current
calendar year. He wanted to know how long it would take us
to install it. I said that our experience with the 168
indicates that it can be installed and put in operation within
about a 30 day period. I told him that by the time the 370/168
is installed, the two 158 computers in this Center would have
reached their saturation point. When the 168 is installed,
we would place the full load of that Center on the 168. We
would convert one of the 158's for the CAMS operation, replac-
ing the 360/65, and the other 158 would become a backup for
use in support of the 370/168 and CAMS. At the time of its
activation, the 370/168 would only be partially loaded. Our
projections of future workload on this machine indicate that
it probably will carry the load in that Center until 1981.
Mr. Moore wanted to know how much bigger the 168 was than the
158. I told him that it had about four or five times the
capacity of a 158. He said "You mean that the increase in
capacity for the Center is over 100%?" I said "That is correct."
4. The next question that Mr. Moore asked pertained to
our plan to purchase another 168 for use in the GC-03 Center.
He said that in reviewing his notes, it sounded like we had
said that we have a 370/168 already used in support of the
VM system, and that we planned to replace that 168 with another
168, also in support of the VM operation. He wanted to know
whether his notes were correct. I said "Yes, your notes are
essentially correct. However, the new 168 that we plan to
bring in to the VM service was a specially configured machine
designed to provide an enhancement of the VM operation." In
effect, this enhanced machine would enable us, to support 225
subscribers simultaneously during the peak period instead of
the 160 concurrent subscribers currently possible with the
present VM system. He then wanted to know what we planned
to do with the current 168 that would be freed-up at the time
we brought in the new 168. I told him that that machine would
go into a Batch service, giving us the additional capability
for Batch processing that we projected would be needed in that
period of time.
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5. The next question that Mr. Moore asked was regard-
ing the SAFE computers. He wanted to know what we planned in
the way of computers in support of the SAFE system. I told
him that we had not yet completed the design and it was our
intent to let the design competition contracts this year. It
would probably be about a year before we were able to pin down
the kinds of computers that we would use in the SAFE operation.
He then wanted to know how we were able to undertake site
preparation when we had not yet selected the computers. I
said that it was our judgment that, considering the workload
to be done by the SAFE system, it would require computers ap-
proximately equivalent to two 370/168's in size. We had de-
signed several hypothetical configurations which would enable
us to satisfy the SAFE requirements with a variety of computer
systems. These formed the basis for the general scoping of
the site preparation work. He then wanted to know whether
there were any site preparation costs associated with the
planned installation of the 370/168 in GC-47 and the other
370/168 in GC-03. I told him that there was a general upgrad-
ing of utilities already underway, which would provide the
required amount of chilled water, chilled air, and no-break
uninterruptable power systems for these two 370/168's. I
said no additional site preparation costs are likely.
6. Mr. Moore then asked if it would be possible to get
a copy of the Five Year Plan that we were in the process of
implementing, and which had been mentioned in our previous meet-
ing with him. I told Mr. Moore that the Plan we were working
from was not fit for further dissemination, that in fact, we
were working from a Plan that was several years old, which had
been partially updated and which did not contain sufficient
narrative data to make a great deal of sense to an outside
reviewer. I did not think that that Plan was suitable for
further dissemination. Fortunately, he dropped the subject
at that point.
7. Subsequent to my discussions with Mr. Moore, I
advised regard-
ing the above matters. I also suggested to that STATINTL
guidelines should be provided in the Agency regarding how to
respond to these telephone calls directly from Congressional
Committee staffers. I told him that I thought it was unwise
that Congressional Committee staffers have free license to call
anyone within the Agency. I felt that any calls from Congres-
sional sources should be funneled through a single source in
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the Agency, and that any replies or responses to the questions
raised by these staffers should also be funneled back to Con-
gress through this same individual.
Clifford D. May, Jr.
cc: , ISS/DDO
3/Comptroller
PS/ODP
J. Blake, DDA
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