FBI PROPOSAL FOR JOINT TRAINING RE CIM II

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• Publication Date: August 22, 1976
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22 August 1979
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MEMORANDUM FOR: Acting Deputy Director for Administra
STATINTL FROM
SUBJECT FBI Proposal for Joint Training Re GIM II
REFERENCE ODP Memorandum to ADDA, ODP 9-1222, dated
14 August 1979, "FBI Proposal for Joint
Training Venture"
1. The referenced memorandum requests your concurrence
in a proposal for a joint undertaking under which CIA would
provide the services of instructor personnel to conduct
Generalized Information Management (GIM-II) training at the
Bureau's Quantico training facility. The course of instruction
at issue has been in the past, and would continue to be,
given by CIA instructors to CIA personnel to meet CIA requirements,
with the Agency welcoming FBI students up to the limits of
the Agency's training capacity. The change to expanded
facilities is intended to permit more FBI students to attend
the same course of instruction. As explained herein, the
Agency may proceed as proposed without seeking Attorney
General approval.
2. This case presents an early opportunity to consider
how to apply the Procedures Relating to the Provision of
Expert CIA Personnel to Law Enforcement Agencies, approved
by the Attorney General on 31 July 1979. In transmitting.
these procedures back to the DCI with his approval, the
Attorney General included a comment that "training" had been
deleted from the situations excepted from the procedures,
thereby making the provision of CIA expert personnel to law
enforcement agencies for purposes of training fully subject
to the procedures, including the requirement for Attorney
General approval.
3. When the GIM II case was discussed with the Department
of Justice in the context of whatever special sensitivites
might lie behind the Attorney General's transmittal comment,
the initial reaction was that the situation was governed by
a literal reading of ? 2-309(c) of Executive Order 12036.
That is, the modified GIM II training program would have to
be approved by the Attorney General because the cited section
requires that AG procedures shall govern the provision of
assistance by expert personnel to'law enforcement agencies.
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4. It was explained that the GIM II program was a
course in how to manage a large scale Data Base Management
System for specially formatted data. As such, the object of
the course was a better understanding of computer technology.
Course instruction was largely independent of any particular
type of data that might be handled.
5. With the foregoing as background, in the end it was
concluded that a literal reading of the Executive Order was
not the most sensible manner of deciding this case. It was
acknowledged that all concerned understood the Executive
Order provision to deal with expert assistance for law
enforcement activities, from which the GIM II program appears
far removed. More decisively, it was noted that the AG
procedures under consideration specifically state that they
relate "to the provision of Central Intelligence Agency
(CIA) expert personnel to law enforcement authorities within
the United States' f'or the' purpose's' of, actual, participation
in enforcement' ac-t:iwiti'es. It was agreed that the portion
here emphasized would exclude the proposed GIM II program.
6. Therefore, the proper interpretation of the Executive
Order and the procedures on this point would appear to be
that the provision of CIA expert personnel to law enforcement
agencies for training in law enforcement activities would be
subject to the procedures, while training in other than law
enforcement activity would not. This is likely to be a key
distinction in making future determinations regarding whether
training programs are subject to the procedures.
STATINTL
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01P 9-1222
14 August 1979
MORANDUM FOR: Acting Deputy Director for Administration
' Cx Bruce T. Johnson
Director of Data Processing
SUBJECT . FBI Proposal for Joint Training venture
1. This memorandum is written to inform you o
proposal from the FBI for a joint training venture with 0DP
to provide GIM II training. tDP finds the proposal reasonable
and plans to explore the feasibility of such a joint training
effort.
2. Attached is a copy of a memorandum to me from
William A. Bayse, Assistant Director FBI, Technical Services
Division, proposing that our two agencies collaborate in a
GIM II training course to be conducted in the FBI's facilities
at Quantico, Virginia and to be taped for the benefit of
both agencies. In his memorandum P1r. Bayse expresses appre-
ciation for the training we have provided FBI personnel in
our GI1 II classes but says that the FBI has a pressing need
to train larger numbers of employees in GIM 11 and therefore
a need to develop a training capability of its own. He offers
the use of the FBI's Quantico facilities, including living
accommodations, for the duration of the classes. CIA would
be expected to contribute the services of instructor personnel.
i/ Bruce T. Johnson
Bruce T. Johnson
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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20535
ODP N
Date: August 3, 1979
Mr. Bruce Johnson
Director of Data Processing
Room '2D00
Central Intelligence Agency
Washington, D. C.
From: .b William A. Bayse
v' Assistant Director FBI
Technical Services Division
Subject: GENERALIZED INFORMATION MANAGEMENT
(GIM-II) TRAINING
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) would
appreciate exploring, with your. personnel, the possibility of
establishing a joint training effort with your. Agency relat-
ing to the GIM-II data base management system. As you are
aware, our agencies have committed both time and resources
in developing GIM-II capabilities and are dependent on it for
the continued operation of a number of computer applications,
including those in direct support of our investigative
mission. One of the major drawbacks in using GIM-II is that
no vendor is totally responsible for the package, and train-
ing is not readily available.
In the past your Agency has been most generous in
providing student spaces in each of is GIM?-II classes. However,
the FBI has-a pressing need to train a greater number of its
employees in GIM-II and must develop a training capability of its
own. There are a number of approaches to achieving that goal and
a joint training venture appears to be a reasonable and
cost-effective overall approach.
Mr. Francis E. Torpey, Section Chief of the Operations
Management Section of this Bureau, discussed this. matter with
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Mr. Bruce Johnson
STATINTL your deputy, I on July 17, 1979. The FBI has
modern fa.cili.t,'_e?s at the FBI National Academy at Quantico,
Virginia, would be willing to offer the use of those facilities-
,for joint classes and would tape the presentations for our mutual
benefit. Personnel from both agencies would be able to use the
available living. accommodations and eating facilities throughout
.the duration of the classes. The essential element needed from
your Agency in such an arrangement would be use of instructor
personnel.
We would like to meet with appropriate personnel from
your staff to explore the possibilities of a joint training
effort. I would appreciate it if you or one of your staff would
call me at 324-5350 or Mr. Torpey at 324-5940 so that we may
discuss this matter.
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