TALKING POINTS DCI MEETING WITH SECDEF -- 19 NOVEMBER 1982

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Talking Points
DCI Meeting with SecDef--19 November 1982
Thi Secretary of Defense wishes to discuss division of funding responsibility
for Survivability measures between.-the NFIP and Defense budgets.
At-issue, at-least at the staff level, is the measure of control the
SecDef can exercise over the program..
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Basically, survivability measures which become integral elements of.a..
collection , processing, or production system, should be funded in the
sponsoring program.
Defense may augment survivability by transferring TOA to the NFIP with
mutual understanding that such funds will not be diverted to other uses.
Survivability measures which are not integral to a specific system (e.g.,
-can be funded in either budget by mutual.
agree wt, oh a case-by-case basis.
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Office of management and Bu
^ Engmeenng development-$9 8 bil-
lion. funding bid to Fiscal 1984 real growth of 7! /o
^ Manaeemerft ?- and support--$2.4 bil-
Washington-The Defense Dept. will, be- will result in an overa gro
^ Advanced-!technology=$l.i billion.
, = f-Y ~.:_:' m.0: rarional's s61 .billion,'
11 ' ?wth of `12 25% , Pe Y
tiations with the Office of management - wngicas Lvi -P- ~____~?_ ?.. - ?-- " Intelligence/communications, $3.7
and Budget, which will be seeking to cur- "but the cuts in Congress will make the ^
h $282 billion in Fiscal 1984 just too big a billion.
tail it to approximately a 7% real growt
- r , jump -in- a single year,". the official said ^ Defense wide mission support, in-
Tate
ce- $3.2
Research and -development funding for eluding space based reconnaissan
Armed .service- secretaries .and .Deputy '
Defense Secretary Frank-C; Carlucci have the services is ;expected to remain about billion:
, -according to the The Air Force is requesting $22 billion
bud the same as requested
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get. Reagan., Administration officials -:said official.:The total in this area for Fiscal: _ for aircraft procurement,: including spares
'and includes " and modifications. This-includes:
9 billion
4's $28
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last week the Defense Dept' base of $282: .198
^ Ann $5.2 billion. ^ Rockwell International B-1B bomb
billion would provide about a:. 14% Y- g ar-~5 a billion for 10 aircraft plus $773.3
growth rate above the riscai i,o, uaulc - a-"-, W?
of $240 billion expected to emerge- from ^ Air Force-$12.7 billion. = million for research, development, test
and evaluation.
$3 billion
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Congress ^ Defense agenc
^ McDonnell Douglas F-15 fighters-
'
~;e..~ $2.2 billion for 60 aircraft plus another
The growth of 14% is considered too
high for a single year, the officials ex-
plained, and the military services will be
asked to reduce their. budgets each by up
to 5%.
"This would still provide real growth of
about 7% in Fiscal 1984 after inflation,"
one official said. The inflation rate being
used for Fiscal 1984 by the Administra-
tion is a composite rate of 5.25%. This
Technology base research and develop- aivo.7 uuuulva1 Lva aa:na..+=..aa
ment programs in Fiscal 1984 are expect- ment related to the;multistaged improve-
ed to remain at $3.6 billion in-the budget m.nt program.
ram. F-16 fighter-$2.2
request-$2.7 billion for exploratory de- Dynamics velopment programs and $900 million for billion for 120 aircraft plus an additional
basic research. $73.9 million for research and develop-
The funding being sought in Fiscal ment. This is related mostly to modifica-
1984 by general research and development tions to correct system deficiencies in
categories includes: operational service to the electrical and
^ Advanced development-$6.3 billion. flight control systems. It will fund contin-
search Facility at Edwards AFB, Calif. The
Structural Test Vehicle Makes Free Flight After Rework
Drones for Aerodynamic and Structural Test- strated the remotely piloted research vehi-
ing (DAST) flight test vehicle made its first- cle's flight control, instrumentation and
free flight Nov. 3 after going through a pe- launch and recovery systems, according to
riod of reconstruction for about 2.5 years project officials at National Aeronautics and
'
s Dryden Flight Re-
(below, right). The 15-min. flight test demon-'. Space Administration
Drones for Aerodynamic and Structural Test-
ing project is a joint program of the Dryden
Flight Research Facility and the Langley Re-
search Center that is intended to develop
technology that will enable aircraft to fly more
efficiently with lighter and more flexible
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ued work on the programmable signal
processor and dual . mode transmitter for.,
the improved APG-66 radar leading, to-:
ward the interdiction and improved close
air support missions.. An additional $129-3.
million is included in the budget request
for ? the F-16E all-weather aircraft.;.
The Air Force also is seeking $111 mil-
lion in Fiscal 1984 for its fighter deriva-
tive program for a comparative evaluation
between the F-15E and the F-16E to de
termine mission analysis cost, nsk and
schedule.
-Advanced funding; is included under
both fighter line items in . the budget- to
convert 400 aircraft to the derivative con-:
fig}iration, and procurement of additional
aircraft would begin in Fiscal 1988...
Fighter Program
USAF plans to spend $168 million in
Fiscal 1985 for research and development,
on the fighter derivative program, $133
million in Fiscal 1986 and $61 million in
Fiscal 1987. No funds are programed in
Fiscal 1988. Procurement funding for the
derivative fighter includes $32 million,
$69 million, $347.9 million, $940.8 million
and $4.5 billion in Fiscal 1984 through
Fiscal 1988, respectively.
An advanced McDonnell Douglas F-4G
Wild Weasel aircraft program is being
wings. The modified Air Force/Teledyne Ryan
BQM-34F Firebee target drone is designed to
perform high-risk aerodynamic and structural
tests (AwasT Nov. 1, p. 71). The vehicle has a
transport aircraft-type supercritical airfoil,
designated the Aerolastic Research Wing-or
ARW-1 R. The vehicle crashed in June, 1980,
Fiscal 1985 through Fiscal 1988, respec-
tively, includes $55.7 million, $80.5 mil-
lion, $40.1 million and $12.3 million.
' ^ Joint fighter engine-$30 million to
initiate concept validation of critical com-
ponents designs, materials, manufacturing
processes and other required technologies
for the advanced tactical fighter and the
Navy's fighter engine needs in the mid-
1990s. Funding in Fiscal 1985 through
Fiscal 1987, respectively, is $111.5 mil-
lion, $173 million and $127 million.
^ Alternate fighter engine-$137.1 mil-
lion to enter full-scale engineering devel-
opment with the General Electric F101
derivative fighter engine as a competitor
for the Pratt & Whitney F100 with 750
test hours. The funds also will be used for
the F100 digital electronic engine control
and an improved life core.
^ Advanced strategic missile systems-
$70.1 million for design, fabrication,
ground and sounding rocket tests for de-
velopment of ballistic reentry vehicle de-
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search and development funding' includes
$73.2 million, $68.7 million, $87.6 million,
$64.5 million and $30.9 .million in Fiscal
1984 through Fiscal 1988, respectively.
conducted by USAF to counter new Sovi=; .. ang aircraft procurement, includes $235
et air. defense .:threats ? by. -updating. the million, $637.6 million.with procurement
APR-38,1o; cover . more , quickly, a , larger :. of three aircraft, $796.3 million-with- pro=-,
portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. curement of three aircraft, $809.: million
The improvement program also includes: -.with:,,three . aircraft, ? and $894.2:-million
the interface of the APR-38 with the?high, ' with, three aircraft;in Fiscal :1984 through
slam antiradiation missile (HARM):and Fiscal .1988, respectively
. . ?.?
Improvements by the .Air Force to the Other Expenditures
Boeing E=4 national emergency airborne , Other Air Force research and develop-
command post aircraft .are in two block ment funding being sought in Fiscal 1984
changes , for funding in the Fiscal 1984 includes
request and five-year defense plan. ^ Mission adaptive wing for the.Gener-
. Both changes add, to-Survivable. com- al . Dynamics F-111-$2.6 million; This is....
mand, control and communications. sys-,- - to develop a smooth skin, variable camber
tems. Block 1 funding request is for leading and trailing edge wing-system and
million,-and Block 2 for $20.5 million, to.flight-validate the system. Fabrication
$21.5 million, $14.4 million in Fiscal 1984 of an automatic flight. control,, system is
through Fiscal 1986, respectively. planned in Fiscal 1984, and it will be
Related funding is being sought in other flight tested.
appropriations that includes $11.6 million, ^ Short takeoff and landing (STOL)
$14.7 million, $77.7 million, $38.1 million fighter technology-$7.7 million in Fiscal
and $800,000 in Fiscal 1984 through 1984, and $18 million, $9.9 million, $12
1988.. ' . million and $4 million in Fiscal 1985
Funding is being sought by USAF in through 1988, respectively. The money
Fiscal 1984 to improve the Boeing E-3A will be used to flight test on a testbed
airborne warning and control system, the aircraft a two-dimensional thrust vector/
joint tactical information distribution sys- reversing nozzle with integrated flight/
tem, maritime surveillance capability and propulsion control.
software integration, and the NATO-fund- ^ Target recognizer technology for the
ed large computer and software to in- night attack Lantirn system-$3.9 million.
crease the target track- capability. Re- This is a high-speed video processor to
select probable targets in the forward-
looking infrared display generated by the
on its third flight. Project officials said the Lantirn pod.
planned flutter-suppression tests. scheduled I Advanced tactical fighter-$8.3 mil-
during the flight earlier this month were de- lion to complete concept development, in-
layed until the next flight. The vehicle was cluding selection of point designs for
recovered in mid-air by an Air Force helicop- concept validation. Funding at this level is
ter. The DAST vehicle is launched by a NASA/ for a competitive concept development for
Boeing B-52 aircraft (below, left). . a new fighter for the 1990s. Funding in
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nertial Upper Stage Telemetry Data i.os
lion, $130.3 million, $?134.8 million and
$139.9 million-.in -Fiscal 1984'.through Fis-
respectively."
cal 1988- respectively."
^ Joint advanced vertical lift aircraft
(JVX)-$77.8 million, $118.4 million,
$119.3 million, $139.3 million and $113.2
million from'-Fiscal 1984- through Fiscal
u Sikorsky . SH-60 helicopter,, version
for .aircraft carrier antisubmarine warfare
and other-missions-$20 million in Fiscal
1984 for modification of.-a `prototype SH-
60B. Funding . for operational evaluation
leading toward aircraft delivery in Fiscal
1990 includes $30.1 million, $20 million
and $5 million in Fiscal 1985 through
Fiscal 19871 =
^ Lockheed P-3C modernization and
radar system: improvement-$3.5- million,
$13.7 million, $11.3 million; $20.1 million
and $28.2- million. Procurement - funding
begins in Fiscal 1987 at-$43.9 million for
16 AN/APS-137 systems with. an inverse
synthetic aperture radar. Funding in Fis-
cal 1988 is $50 million for 16 radars.
^ Single advanced signal processor for
the P-3C aircraft-$7.2 million, $15.2 mil-
lion, $12.4 million, $7.9 million and $8.2
million in Fiscal 1984 through Fiscal
1988. Procurement funding is scheduled
for Fiscal 1984 for two systems at $19.8
million, $40.7 million in Fiscal 1985 for
seven, $115.3 million in Fiscal 1986 for
18, $150.1 million in Fiscal 1987 for 24
systems and $153.8 million in Fiscal 1988
for 24 systems. .
^ AV-8B research and development to
complete the flight test program and begin
operational evaluation-$74 million, $12.5
million and $5.9 million in Fiscal 1984
through Fiscal 1986. Procurement funding
includes 36 aircraft in Fiscal 1985 for $1
billion, 40 in Fiscal 1986 for $1.1 billion,
48 in Fiscal 1987 for $1.3 billion, and 48
in Fiscal 1988 for $1.2 billion.
. The Navy plans to spend $838.4 million
to procure 21 Sikorsky SH-60B Seahawk
ASW helicopters, an additional $79.1 mil-
lion in operational funding in Fiscal 1984.
Research and development funding is $4.5
million.
The service plans to maintain a steady
procurement rate of 24 aircraft per year
from Fiscal 1985 through Fiscal 1988
with, funding of $808.8 million, $750.2
million, $751.7 million and $728.4 million,
respectively.
The Lockheed Trident 2 submarine-
launched ballistic missile research and de-
velopment funding that the Navy is re-
questing includes $1.4 billion, $2 billion,
$2.3 billion, $2 billion and $1.5 billion for
Fiscal 1984 through Fiscal 1988, respec-
tively.
Procurement funding will begin in Fis-
cal 1984 at $2.3 million and increase to
$164 million in Fiscal 1985, $790 million.
in Fiscal 1986, $1.8 billion in Fiscal 1987
for 27 missiles and $2.9 billion in Fiscal
1988 for 72 missiles. ^
Los Angeles=Most of the telemetry data from the maiden flight of the.?Air;Force's,
e (IUS) system ?wae.nnt received during the Oct..40 launch of. two,
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isolated-it to circuitry in the telemetry system on the IUS:
.prior to'-launch and that the two: spacecraft successfully were placed an orbit at ;very
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coys, deployment devices and counter-
measures. Funding in Fiscal 1985 through
Fiscal 1988, respectively, is $139.7 mil-
lion, $143.3 million, $96.3 million and
$93.9 million.
. ^ Advanced radiation technology-
$86.9 million to conduct a ground-based
laser antisatellite technology demonstra-
tion against an instrumented target with a
high-power laser. The program is struc-
tured to demonstrate good beam quality
with a cylindrical chemical laser gain gen-
erator integrated with a toric optical reso-
nator. Range will be up to 500 km. for
aircraft defense, antisatellite and antisub-
marine-launched ballistic missile applica-
tions. Demonstrations also will be against
multiple targets. Funding remains approx-
imately the same each year through Fiscal
1988.
^ Milstar satellite system for extremely
high frequency communications and ter-
minals-$374.5 million. Funding in Fiscal
1985 through Fiscal 1988 includes $506.5
millon, $392.3 million, $307.9 million and
$283.2 million,. respectively. -
The Navy is seeking $11.3 billion in
Fiscal 1984 for aircraft procurement. The
funding provides for spares and support
and advanced procurement includes: .
^ Grumman F-14 fighter-$1.1 billion
^ McDonnell Douglas/Northrop F/A-
18-$2.6 billion for 84 aircraft.
^ Grumman A-6E attack aircraft-$266
million for six aircraft.
^ Grumman EA-6B Prowlers-$454
million for six aircraft.
^ McDonnell Douglas/Marine Corps
AV-8B V/STOL-$760 million for 18 air-
craft.
Navy research, development, test and
evaluation funding being requested over
the five-year defense plan includes:
? F-14 target identification software for
the AWG-9 programmable signal proces-
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sor-$3.1 million, $8.1 million, $8.1 mil-
lion, $7.2 million and $7.5 million from
Fiscal 1984 through Fiscal 1983, -espec-
tively.
^ F-14 programmable signal proces-
sor-$4.2 million in Fiscal 1984, when
funding ends.
^ Aircraft engine component improve-
ment program-$96.6 million, $118.9 mil-
MX Funding
Washington-Enough votes exist. in the
Senate to delete funding from-the Fiscal
1983 Defense Appropriations Bill for MX
missile production but continue research
and development and study of basing
modes, Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D.-S. C.)
said last week.
Hollings will reintroduce an amendment
to block production funding in the special
session of Congress that begins Nov. 29.
The original amendment failed when it was
tabled by the Senate Sept. 29 on a 50 to
46 vote.
Hollings said at a press conference he
has confirmed by phone calls to senators
that he now has,the votes for passage.
While he does not oppose research and
development on the MX missile itself, Hol-
lings said the ultimate solution may be a
mobile intercontinental missile similar to
the Soviet intermediate-range SS-20 mo-
bile missile.
Another alternative is to accelerate the
D-5 Trident 2 missile, he said.
Hollings also said he will try to kill the
Rockwell B-1 bomber, but he is not as
optimistic about those prospects as he is
about his MX amendment. He also be-
lieves defense spending growth, above in-
flation, should be held to 3% rather than
the 7.5 % now before Congress, but added
that Reagan must lead such an effort if it
is to succeed.