NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE WORKING GROUP

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• Publication Date: May 9, 1973
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National Security Council Intelligence Committee
WORKING GROUP
Minutes of the Eighth Meeting
1430 Hours, 9 May 1973
DCI Conference Room, CIA Headquarters
DCI/IC 73-0365
Maj. Gen. Daniel 0. Graham, DCI/IC Staff, Chairman presiding.
Members present were: Mr. Andrew Marshall, NSC Staff; Mr. Seymour
Weiss and Mr. George Denny (representing Dr. Cline), Department
of State; Dr. Albert Hall, ASD(I), Maj. Gen. H. P. Smith, DIA
(representing Vice Adm. de Poix), Rear Adm. S. D. Cramer, Jr., J-5
(representing' Lt. Gen. Seit~h ? Dr. Proctor, DDI, Mr. John
Huizenga, D/NE, A/DDS&T, CIA; the
Department of Justice was not represented. Others present were:
Maj. Gen. Jack E. Thomas, Executive Secretary; Capt. George Pickett,
NSC Staff; Mr. Richard Curl, State Department; Mr. Patrick J. Parker,
Defense Department and Capt. Gerald W. Dyer, J-5, JCS.
Agenda Item 1: Minutes of the 4 April meeting
The minutes were approved after acceptance of two changes,
proposed by rior to the meeting, for Agenda Items 4
and 7, and o a change proposed by Mr. Marshall for Agenda Item 3.
(Copies of pages 2 and 3 of the Minutes of the Seventh Meeting,
as amended, are being distributed.)
Mr. Marshall noted that although the minutes reported that
completion of the Yugoslavia study was expected by June, the first
draft was not yet completed and he did not believe the June deadlineL
would be met.
Mr. Huizenga indicated even a rough draft would be helpful to
the Office of National Estimates, which has been charged by the DCI
with preparing a new estimate on Yugoslavia. After some discussion,
the chairman asked Mr. Marshall to see what might be done toward
speeding completion of the Working Group study.
Agenda Item 2: Case studies of political/military crisis situations
The memorandum for the NSCIC, drafted by a task group headed by
Mr. Marshall, was approved for forwarding after acceptance of several
editorial changes proposed by Dr. Proctor and a discussion which
focused on two points.
The first had to do with the sentence in paragraph 18: "To prepare
this product the DCI could constitute a task force or request other
agencies to provide inputs to his CIA staff." Dr. Proctor proposed
deletion of everything after the word "or", but several members commented
on the need for allowing the DCI flexibility in electing how to proceed.
The group felt the original wording should stand.
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The second arose when Dr. Hall questioned the management approach
involved in having one DCI representative to handle liaison with the
NSC Staff and another to insure the process of providing necessary
intelligence support worked well. He felt one man should have the
basic responsibility and the other should work for him.
After considerable discussion as to how the pace and intensity of
the crisis could affect the functions being described, the group
agreed that Mr. Marshall, with Dr. Hall's coordination, would amend
the paper to clarify the hierarchical relationship of the two DCI
representatives. (This was done on 10 May.)
Agenda Item 3: Involvement. of the Working Group in the NIE process
At the opening of the meeting, the chairman announced this
item would not be discussed since the DCI wished to consider the
matter further before it is addressed by the Working Group. The
chairman asked that members give thought to the matter since it
would be on the agenda of a later meeting.
Agenda Item 4: Questions to be answered on Soviet ICBMs
Most of the meeting was devoted to a discussion of problems in-
volved in conducting surveys which seek to measure the utility of
intelligence production, and to a critique of a draft PRG/IC paper
which evaluates finished intelligence products published in 1972 on
Soviet ICBMs.
Responding to the initial question posed by Mr. Weiss as to the
end objective of the ICBM survey, the chairman emphasized that a basic
element of the exercise was to identify those products which were most
useful and those least useful to the needs of intelligence consumers.
Criticisms of the draft PRG/IC paper included:
a. Lack of an assessment of product quality, and a means of
determining how quality is to be measured.
b. Absence of a recognition that "redundancy" ratings need to
be qualified by recognition that the same subject may have to be
presented at different classification levels for different audiences.
c. Ratings on "policy and strategy" coverage on publications
which several members did not consider to relate to this topic.
d. Lack of any recognition of the purpose which each publication
was intended to serve.
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The chairman pointed out that "redundant" ratings appeared
more frequently with respect to "weaponry" than on any other topic,
and the greatest number of deficiencies were noted in the "policy
and strategy" coverage.
Considerable discussion focused on examination of the need for
publication as a means of lateral communication among intelligence
analysts as well as for communication with consumers of intelligence.
It was generally agreed that:
a. While the ICBM problem is complex, with a variety of different
audiences for different prcducts, and obtaining useful consumer re-
actions will be extremely difficult, the attempt should be made;
b. Recommendations to improve the production process are needed,
including guidelines as to which particular products should or should
not be published;
c. Particular attention should be given to assessment of the
extent to which redundancy in products is needed;
d. Criteria should be developed for measurement of the quality
of intelligence products;
e. The number of consumers of a particular product is not as
important as how well the product serves key users;
f. Intelligence producers need to be made aware of what other
producers in the same subject-matter field are planning to publish.
Mr. Marshall and Dr. Hall also thought it would be well to take
a "fine cut" at some segment of the production on Soviet ICBMs, examin-
ing in detail such matters as product quality and related costs.
Agenda Item 5: Future work program of the Working Group
The chairman asked if any member had proposals to submit concern-
ing the possible future program of the group. There were no comments.
The meeting adjourned at 1600 hours, with/no date
the next meeting.
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Chairman, NSCIC Working Group
Daniel 0. trai'iam
Major General, USA