SOME PROBLEM AREAS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

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• Publication Date: January 21, 1963
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CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY G
WASHINGTON 25. D. G. 25X1,
OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR (INTELLIGENCE)
I 1 MAY 1963
Dear Joe:
The rate at which the CIA-DIA special project on the Soviet
ground forces is progressing is causing me growing concern. You
will recall that Secretary McNamara asked Mr. McCone for a pre-
liminary report in August. To assist the project we in CIA have
taken the following steps:
1. designated the CIA members for the project
panel,
2. tabled terms of reference for discussion,
3. requested special support from the Deputy
Director (Plans),
4. proposed an operating procedure for the panel,
and
5. requested a traffic intelligence briefing from NSA.
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We have kept your staff informed as to these s also
attaching for your record the
ing copies of the exchange of correspondence between Secretary
McNamara and Mr. McCone so you can be sure that your le is
complete in this respect.
You will note in ANNEX I, page 7, of the attached CIA
proposed terms of reference (15 April 1963) that we believe
the study should include consideration of the following general
topics:
I. organization
II. Equipment, Combat
III. Costs
IV. Employment
V. Effectiveness
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vi 1h rewect to topics I and II0 my staff is currently
exploring, tie feasibility of applying automatic data proces-
sing tuchninues to achieve rapidly a first cut at the inte-
=~ratiorn o:' TRII materials. I am else pleased to be able to
inform you in connection with topic A that the DD/P Staff
has airea~iy tegum to implement my request (3, above). With
reopoct to topic III my staff will shortly be distributing the
detailed es'Limates of land armament expenditures which were
r3questod lay your staff. At the same time my staff is formu-
tery
lating certain requests to be made of the Office of the Secretary
of Defense and the Department of the Army for
cost data. I hope that in the near future you and I ahall
both hear that constructive technical advances are in progress.
I naginc you feel as I do that the preliminary report
to the Secretary must necessarily be partial in nature and
tontatitre ae well, but that every effort must be made to be
as rc5:xn3ive to the Secretary's needs as possible. To this
end 1 eu.g?zest that we charge our representatives on the panel
with completing the terms of reference and the panel's operat-
ing procedures in the next few days, with arranging for the
ixat%-,ration of the new materials in the next few weeks and
with pr3ducifg a progress report for you and me by the end
of June.
In. tits connection please let know at your very
earliest eor..venience who your designees for the project
pariel nail whether or not you approve our proposed
ternrN,
terr~.s of r;tc:t3 for further information or short studies may
n;de at later date.
D"Lscus ? lta.a by panel of information relating to subject.
(a) Af r+.z=;1,;''.:et5 satisfied that all obtainable information
45 b ;can assimilated . into existing product, panel may:
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t) at prove a].ternative3 as presented, decide on
ar , and method of presentation, provide
for preparation of report;
(2) c>r require reexamination of evidence by substantive
,,coup and f raining of new alternatives ;
(3) or s~,.;gost alternative i ethods.
(b) If r_i.ci iC orial information appears obtainable, request
itt' procurement for purposes of this study.
(c) F.: 3. _~:~- n discussions if necessary.
4. R virww r - port and provide for dissemination.
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`f:h:: SSC ':GARY or D s
13 February 1963
Aaar John :
" caa ixasetea of the strength of Soviet grouad
I believe t;i:-at WI
fors' coritaaic ?d in J'9 cbiA their
rc:li:. 'i y, con tctency c1id raza ee of Ltt3i ty. :re t ~
we r:.oc as thorough study to evaluato all avz ii-able ii:#o_ s. =f loza
concerning the ao;caecto of >oviet ground force;a s ?oci; ad i. yovr
lottc:r, and tvo are procoec:in,+r, as fol.owa:
1. A pa iel of CIA and I' T.A perconnol bw!) or~tab-
li 'aacl. 'olio participation of one or two cju :~ u ; o io
fro:an your ewwff a.e rabververe vio-ald aid Us if. ir. ~:r?rcwix.g
yc.ur requiroz.ionts for information and in t
c(, .-t data for comparative pure occ:-,. They also
you in cvaluati..ng thu rceu.ts of the 2. This panel is res;?or.cihle !or revio -An;; all
e,,lienc'U '.#: p.epL' iu a tc]o:Otl+h and t; :'Ctl~f- on &J. j a71.iY 1WSi?E'v' ~, ti; uilai-,3Cv;, cocta, and ti+o:~ t-ivalita,.Ave ~. , joct:) C
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"vl. V j;rour_d forces. 1 p l a n torit i~oaruQf+ tz+ai-
Lcitiaaatce to raview t':zis study, and of cou.r:,a 4~er+ iai
Caz oli and f will review :t.
s,. V4.4orovor posaib'o, tl:o ra.n5* a of uncortai.-ty
be trcz tod ofn~,3licitly acct .yy to :.o ~~efi:~i~ivcr:~?e^ r~ ?
C:e rcliabiiity of the evidc .cu.
4. A p..oiLninary report will be forvvaxded to you iii
J;u fferent or&ai iuatioi a1 and deploy.
i.icrt recent 6::.1ar es n.ppc-~r to have thCrc~c :ci ::hoes
e?x fe.. nzce:s. for a;kar. ;sic;, "oviot u:v3 o. 1 a~tren ; a re far
below o;se of eiiher the U Z; pc:r:tor.dc or :.'. AD it io
now e ~_,.:ated that there are about Lail a o raQny men in a t r is 1
Coy:;: 11, :: c c y Sovict tank dhdeion as there are in a t - ical LiS
armor l :i t iviGion. Cthor cign:: icant di f erc ce s c;U t in procure-
moat Do cy, logistic support, and mobilization co .cepts.
In reply to your request for infer.ration on how the Soviets are
allccatin their military expenditures, I have attached to this
letter a recent CLi study prepared in cheap ort of X =11? -63
w:,.icb i3 currently in process. This study includes dstixr_ateo of
e.. ?:c vuree by mission and category in terms which are as corn
Para i w to those of the US as Soviet orCardzaation and data 1in:ita-
tioap::ririt. There is also an extensive section on the
e1 ~_ l riti?s
and ['._fe encoS in the scope of US accounts and those used in the
The et;~dy covers tno period 195EI through 1967; how- ,2r,
t e ~: tsma e for the future ha re a very wise range of
uncext;~ ty.
The ?:4Yency 3.^.G n-.ado similar ct-relies annually for more than fives
years, and aldlouyh ti -10 full details of swCh studios 1-:ava not becn
imclui2od in i?:Gtje 1 L7.tellit?cnce Estit:'.atcss, t ey have been used to
the eeano.nic feasibility of a ti:na-.'cd Soviet military pro"rc1:31e.
It vv:.o the zc- history of experience in this field which per:witted
the : Ucr~;;y to contrlt)uto the 1DCostin;" arpect of the wc.rk Of t''i:
+ ';-?-a.%L i ,io::t Analyais Coup in your .Letter. fur erraaore,
an er .~ r ti.,,.ate (~~ + 11.5-G }~ recently co.nplctQ , enax~.ince the
i acIn g the Sovict economy including the broader aspect3
u; mt tare a.:a ep+ace program.-j.
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THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
WA HINC TON
23 APR 963
Thank you for your kind letter of April 8 in which you
indicate that CTTA will participate in a joint CIA-DIA effort
to evaluate all available information on Soviet ground forces.
I particularly appreciate your response because the question
is so crucial to the decisions I will have to make during the
next year. I am especially pleased that you have already
established a joint panel and that preliminary effort is
underway.
I have asked Mr. Hitch to designate a member of his staff
to aid you in interpreting our requirements and to provide
whatever other services my office can offer. I prefer, however,
that he not be a mbaber, of the study group nor that he have
any influence on its findings.
Thanking you in advance for the assistance you will be
providing us, I remain
Sincerely,
Honorable John A. MoCone
Director, Central Intelligence
Washington 25, D. C.
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