LETTER TO MR. FREDERICK HOFFMAN FROM JOHN A. BROSS

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• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP86M00612R000100050019-9
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
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• Document Page Count: 6
• Document Creation Date: December 15, 2016
• Document Release Date: January 23, 2004
• Sequence Number: 19
• Publication Date: August 5, 1968
• Content Type: LETTER

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3 Asst 1964
Mr. Frederick Hoffman
Assistant Director
Dessau of the Budget
Room 246
Executive Office Suildiag
Dear Trod:
I am enclosing the w*moia*ltum covering the moot
which we hold to disci s the Target Oriented +iaplsy of 1nt
gomce eosra ity res(P*ces. Base let me lmew whettler v
have any changes, deletions or additions to make.
I gather that oast nett meeting is scheduled for Thin sday,
5 septembor at 4:30.
$lncerety.
%a% John A.. :8ros,a
Jim" A. areas
Mtachni eat
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S August 1 5,68
Dr. Ivan Selin
OSD Systems Aaaly,is
2 Z 314
The Pentagon
Dear Ivan:
I am sacIa*iog the ms rasdum covering the traetirg
which we bold to di+cuss the 'T'arget Oriented Display of intell
gs*ca cOMM pity 3esstwress. Pleases lot sae knew whet er yo-,
have any changes, deistisas or additteaas to make.
I gather that 64S ,next meeting is scheduled for Tturs
5 Ssptsnbsr at 4:30.
if "*rsly,
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD 1 August 1968
SUBJECT: Report on Meeting of Representatives of the Sponsors for the
Target-Oriented Display (TOD)
1. This memorandum reflects the discussion and conclusions of th
meeting held on 31 July 1968 to consider progress to date in the develop-
ment of the target-oriented display (TOD) of intelligence community r=-
sources.
2. The representatives of the sponsors in attendance were Ivan S31in,
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Systems Analysis, Fred S. H->ffn m.
Assistant Director, Bureau of the Budget, and John A. Bross, Deputy tD th-
Director of Central Intelligence.
3. Mr. S,lin offered the following as some important guidelines for
further work of the TOD C(xmIttee. Messrs. Hoffman and Bross stated -,hat
they were in general agreement with the substance of Mr. Selin's obse^vat_,--
viz.,
a) In the next call for TOD information, missions of the U;,',.
activities should be identified and displayed as a further sub-di-
vision of the TOD target structure.
b) The next TOD call should develop information that will muke
possible the display of U.S. intelligence resources and activities it
the nature of force tabs. This will require, as a prerequisite, a
definition of units of forces.
c) So-called tactical intelligence resources should be included
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in the TOD data call, and Mr. Selin offered to provide for the T)D
Committee a more precise definition of the activities which he
believes fall within this grouping.
d) With agreement for the inclusion in a total community TO)
framework of these additions and refinements, Mr. Selin expressed
the opinion that a separate DoD call for TOD data would not be
required. He noted also that the potential usefulness of additirmal
TOD-type data available in October had now been offset as a result of
difficulties being encountered by the current CIP and CCP program
reviews in dealing with imminent major decreases in funds and marpower
as a result the prospective resource adjustments are likely to
seriously impair the meaningfulness of TOD-type data which might be
obtained at this time.
e) Mr. Selin also expressed the view that the TOD Committee
should develop detailed procedures for implementing these proposals,
as well as complete the preparation of a report for the Sponsors Dn
the now-completed initial phase of the TOD project and substantive
recommendations drawn therefrom.
f) Mr. Selin noted the potential relationship between the TOE?
mechanism and the Planning-Programming-Budgeting System (PFBS) wh:-_ch
should be borne in mind as TOD concepts and procedures are developed
further.
4+. Mr. HoffYnan stated that Mr. Selin's proposals appeared rea.sonal ie.
He thought that considerable substantive work should be anticipated jr
the course of developing and interrelating within the TOD both force tab
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and mission displays. Nevertheless, he stated that he was in favor or
having both included in the TOD and interrelated as far as feasible.
5. Mr. Bross, likewise, expressed general agreement with Mr_ Selin's
comments. He suggested that there might be some trouble with an attempt
to use early warning as a category for the display of data but was pre-
pared to go along with the proposal that the practicality of using ths ar4i
other missions as categories of activity should be carefully explored.
6. In responding to Mr. Selin's comment on PPBS, Mr. Hoffman thought
that the most meaningful points in time for the preparation of the TOO)
were after the organizations had made their recommendations as part of thfi
budget presentations and following the actual budget decisions. This
would imply a twice-yearly TOD. However, Mr. Hoffman went on to say that
this was an observation and not a prejudging of what should actually occur.
7. Following the foregoing comment, Mr. Selin said that he wantec the
ASD/Comptroller's office to become more directly involved in the TOD
development, and he proposed that Major General Wendell Carter, USAF from
that Office be given clearance for TOD data and briefed.
8. Mr. Selin commented further that he felt it desirable to have the
TOD reflect where funds were actually spent as well as where they are
programmed. (Although this was not discussed further, the proposal agrees
with the unanimous view heretofore expressed within the TOD Committee.)
9. In responding further to Mr. Selin's reference to PPBS, Mr. :Bross
agreed that the present D aD programming structure might not be able to
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the question as to what appropriate role, ultimately, TOD might fill in
relation to programming. At the moment, there is no clear answer, az_d t
initial TOD report should. not attempt to pass judgment on this subject.
The problem of submissions to Congressional Committees further compl;categ
the matter.
10. Mr. Bross reported to the other representatives that General Carr
had recently agreed with the proposition that further costing should be
done in the MC&G area, with particular reference to collection costs. Mr.
Bross then noted that MC&G was one of a number of areas which were now
to some extent associated with the national intelligence effort and tD scram.--
extent outside it. Mr. Bross observed that the TOD should be helpful in
clarifying these situations.
11. The three representatives of the Sponsors agreed that they wo,zld
meet again during the first week of September, at which time the TOD
Committee would provide them a briefing highlighting the substantive con-
clusions and supporting data developed in the initial TOD exercise. An
initial draft substantive report has been circulated and the TOD Comm-tteE
is in general agreement as to how its revision should be accomplished-)
12. The representatives of the Sponsors directed the TOD Committee
to complete their initial report and to continue planning for further TOD
development and the next TOD call giving particular attention to the point-.
discussed in this meeting.
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Chairman, TOD Coammitteo
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