IFPA CONFERENCE ON GERMAN-AMERICAN RELATIONS

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• Publication Date: December 12, 1984
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UNCLASSIFIED
The Director of Central Intelligence
Washington, D.C. 20505
12 December 1984
National Intelligence Council
NOTE FOR: Georae Kolt. NIO/EUR
DDI/EI/SI
FROM: A/NIO/EUR
SUBJECT: IFPA Conference on German-American Relations
1. Attached is program of 10-11 December conference which I
attended. It proved to be a very frank exchange of views on SDI, arms
control and burden-sharing. Ken Adelman,. Fred Ikle, General Abrahamson,
Tap Bennett, and Ed Rowny made their.standard presentations. Senator
Nunn's aide, Punaro, brought down the house with a broadside against NATO
allies' lackluster spending commitments.
2. Comments by the CDU group of participants (see attachment) was a
clear reflection of what even the most pro-American West German
politicians are thinking about US policies. Simply stated, they-are
open-minded but nervous about the Administration's plans for SDI. CDU
parliamentarians with Defense Committee responsibilities kept asking what
the cost would be and what the consequences were for the Alliance; they
seemed less interested in the technology as presented by Abrahamson, and,
more concerned about the politics. They were not yet convinced that
deterrence and coupling will be enhanced, and they are not likely to be
reassured until the SDI concept and technology matures. CDU members also
stressed that the critical threshold is not between nuclear and
conventional war, but between peace and war. Hence, introduction of E.T.
and improved conventional defense by itse are not sufficient goals.
3. The most provocative session saw Senator Nunn's staff aide take
on both Administration representatives and every West German in the
room. To put it mildly, our CDU friends were "pissed off," by Punaro's
assertion that only the US had lived up to its commitments. I counted
four Defense Committee members of the Bundestag who expressed "outrage"
at this assertion and joined in by
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saying that these recriminations were "contemptuous." He cited the 1970s
record of FRG spending, the 1983 HNS agreement, FRG efforts to aid
Spanish membership into NATO, as well as INF as,proof of West Germany's
contributions. Moreover, several participants noted that West Germany
will be unfairly punished if the Nunn amendment passes -- since other
allies' lack of spending will bring about US troop cuts in the FRG. The
DPC's recent agreement to increase infrastructure spending was viewed by
one US participant, Jeff Record, as proof of the Nunn amendment's
success, but only if NATO allies live up to their DPC commitment; if not,
a Nunn amendment might pass next year.
4. These CDU parliarentarians unanimously believe that the amendment
is counter-productive. One official noted that there is a younger
generation that believes the US is an "occupying power" anyway, and
passage of the Nunn amendment will encourage the view that the US-is no
friend of West Germans. I left the meeting feeling that we are going to
see this issue get worse, and the prospects for a SPD/Green government in
1987 could be aided if too much pressure is put on Kohl and he is made to
appear to be a vassel of Washington. At a minimum, CDU leaders will
resist US pressures in order to avoid this charge. Worse yet, an SPD-led
government after 1987 may be further convinced by such actions that the
US is no friend.
5. The conference also stimulated a couple of research paper ideas.
Manpower problems are not limited to West Germany; in several discussions
it was pointed out that the late 1980s will see drawdowns everywhere.
EURA might look into a paper on "Manpower and the Alliance." Also, by
inference, the discussion of manpower and economic constraints suggests
that the Alliance might ultimately be thrown back to reliance on nuclear
weapons by the late 1980s. A paper on Nuclear Weapons and the Alliance
that deals with the late 1980s might be appropriate.
Attachment
DIstribution:
1 ea - Addressees
1 - NIO/EUR
chmn.
A/NIO/EUR
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 SEVENTH
GERMAN-AMERICAN ROUNDTABLE:
POLITICAL CONSTRAINTS, EMERGING
TECHNOLOGIES, AND ALLIANCE
STRATEGY
Co-Sponsored By:
The Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis, Inc.
Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Washington, D.C.
and
The Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung
Sankt Augustin, Federal Republic of Germany
10-11 December 1984
The Madison Hotel
-1500 M Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20005
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SEVENTH GERMAN-AMERICAN ROUNDTABLE:
'OLITICAL CONSTRAINTS, EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES,
AND ALLIANCE STRATEGY
Change and Continuity in the European Security
Environment (German Presentation)
? German policy in the Western alliance
? Inter-Euro
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10-11 December 1984
The Madison Hotel, Washington, D.C.
p
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on:
,
,
and French-German defense collaboration
? Intra-German relations
? Federal Re
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and its relatio
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AGENDA
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with the Soviet Union
onday
!cem r 10, 1984
Tuesday
December 11, 1984
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9:00 a.m.-12:00 noon
Chairman: Dr. Peter R. Weilemann
,0 a.m.-12:30 p.m.
Chairman: Dr. Robert L. Pfaltzgraff, Jr.
Working Session Ill:
ncheon
30-2:00 p.m.
Working Session l:
U.S. Defense Policy during the Next Four Years
? Modernization of offensive strategic forces
? Modernization of general purpose forces
? U.S. arms control policy during the next four
years
Military Issues Facing the Alliance
? Conventional-nuclear threshold
? Manpower constraints in West German and U.S.
general-purpose forces
? Emerging technologies (ET): Implications for
conventional deterrence and nuclear deterrence
? Congressional perspectives on transatlantic
security issues
0-5:00 p.m.
Chairman: Mr. Wolfgang Pordzik
Luncheon
12:30-2:00 p.m.
Workinc. Session 11:
Strategic Defense Initiative
? Technological prospects
? Strategic and arms control implications
2:30-5:00 p.m.
Chairman: Dr. Jacquelyn K. Davis
Working Session IV:
Military Issues Facing the Alliance (continued)
? The Rogers Plan
? AirLand Battle and its variants
? Maritime forces and NATO defense
? Cooperation in defense technology
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PARTICIPANTS
I. General James A. Abrahamson
tirector
trategic Defense Initiative Organization
Iepartment of Defense
1r. Benson D. Adams
lirector, Contract Studies and
Management Support Services
'USDRE, The Pentagon
In Kenneth Adelman
irector
.S. Control & Disarmament
Age
r. Marvin C. Atkins
eputy Director
:ience and Technology
efense Nuclear Agency
r. William Beecher
iplomatic Correspondent
to Boston Globe
ie Honorable W. Tapley Bennett, Jr.
ssistant Secretary of State for
Legislative Affairs
epartment of State
r. Mark Blitz
irector, Office of Private Sector
Programs
nited States Information Agency
r. C n Clemens
)nsu
stitute for Foreign Policy Analysis
Edward Conrad
ce President, Systems Directorate
iman Sciences
?. Jacquelyn K. Davis
.ecutive Vice President
stitute for Foreign Policy Analysis
r. Robert Dean
?puts Director
treau of Politico-Military Affairs
!partment of State
Dr. Joseph D. Douglass, Jr.
Vice President
Jaycor
Dr. Michael A. Freney
Deputy Chief Operating Officer
Center for Strategic and International
Studies
Mr. Michael Gordon
Defense Correspondent
The National Journal
Dr. Leon Goure
Director of Soviet Studies
Science Applications, Inc.
Lt. General Harry A. Griffith
United States Army, Retired
Rear Admiral Robert J. Hanks
United States Navy, Retired
Senior Political-Military Analyst
Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis
Mr. Robert W. Helm
Assistant Secretary of Defense
(Comptroller)
Colonel Robert Helms
Chief,. Long-Range Planning Division
Department of Defense
Dr. Kim Holmes
Senior Fellow
Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis
Mr. G. Philip Hughes
Deputy Assistant to the Vice President
for National Security Affairs
Dr. Fred lkle
Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy
Mr. Robert Jackson
Foreign Affairs and National Defense
Division
Library of Congress
Dr. Catherine Kelleher
School of Public Affairs
University of Maryland
Mr. Ronald Kelly
Legislative Assistant for Defense and
Foreign Affairs
Office of Senator Gordon Humphrey
Admiral G. E. R. Kinnear, 11
United States Navv, Retired
Vice President, Washington Operations
Grumman International, Inc.
Mr. Wallace Kirkpatrick
President
DESE Research & Engineering
Mr. Sven Kraemer
Director of Arms Control
National Security Council
Mr. Paul K. Krueger
Assistant Associate Director
Federal Emergency Management
Agency
Mr. Christopher Lehman
Special Assistant to the President for
National Security Affairs
National Security Council
Mr. Joseph Lehman
Director of Public Affairs
U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament
Agency
Dr. Steven Maaranen
Group Leader
Strategic Analysis Group
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Dr. John Mansfield
Professional Staff Member
Committee on Armed Services
U.S. House of Representatives
Mr. Jack F. Matlock
Senior Director, European and Soviet
Affairs
National Security Council
Ms. Monica McGuire
Research Assistant
Office of Senator Orrin Hatch
Dr. Henry Nau
Graduate Program in Science,
Technology and Public Policy
George Washington University
Mr. Thomas M. T. Niles
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Europe.
Affairs
Department of State
Dr. Charles M. Perry
Senior Staff Member
Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis
Dr. Robert L. Pfaltzgraff, Jr.
President
Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis
Dr. Joseph Pilat
Staff Member
Strategic Analysis Group
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Mr. Arnold Punaro
Minority Staff Member
Senate Committee on Armed Service,
Dr. Jeffrey R. Record
Senior Fellow
Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis
Dr. Clyde R. Replogle
Chief, Special Projects Office
Human Engineering Division
Air Force Aerospace Medical Research
Laboratory
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
Ambassador Edward L. Rownv
Chief Negotiator for Strategic Arms
Reduction Talks
U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament
Agency
Lt. General Richard K. Saxer
Director
Defense Nuclear Agency
Mr. Benjamin F. Schemmer
Editor
Armed Forces Journal
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Dr. William Schneider, Jr.
Dr. Dov Zakheim
Under-Secretary for Security Assistance,
Assistant Under-Secretary of Defense for
General Franz-Josef Schulze
.Science and Technology
Policy/Research
Bundeswehr (Retired)
Department of State
Department of Defense
Deutsches Strategieforum
Dr. David N. Schwartz
Dr. Immo Stabreit
Deputy Director
Federal Chancellor's Office
Office of Policy Analysis
Bureau of P
liti
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Professor Dr
Michael Stii
o
co-
ilitary Affairs
Department of State
Federal Republic of Germany
.
rmer
University of Erlangen
Member of the Board of Directors
Dr. Abram Shulskv
Konrad -Adenauer-Stiftun
Director
Dr. Franz-Josef Bach
g
Strategic Arms Control Policy
Ambassador (Retired)
Dr. Roland Wegener
Department of Defense
Director
Markus Berger
Bureau of International Relations
Dr. Leon Sloss
Member of the Bundestag
CDU
L loss Associates
Committee on Defense
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Dr. Peter R. Weilemann
Dr. elmut Sonnenfeldt
Hans-Joachim Falenski
Deputy Director
Brookings Institution
Planning Staff
Social Science Research Institute
Commander James R. Stark
Ministry of Defense
Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung
National Security Council
Colonel Dieter Farwick
Dr. Stephan von Welck
Planning Staff
Mr. Ronald Stivers
Deutsche Gesellschaft fur Auswarti
e
Assistant Deputy Under-Secretary of
Ministry of Defense
g
Politik
Defense for Policy
Klaus Francke
Colonel Klaus Wiesmann
Ma
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Member of the Bundestag
Ministr
of D
f
jor
an
e
. Stumme
Committee on Defense
y
e
ense
Strategic Forces Division
Willy Wimmer
Nuclear Assessment Directorate
Dr. Gerhard von Glinski
Member of the Bundestag
Defense Nuclear Agency
Foreign Editor
Rheiniscltcr Mt'rkur
General John W. Vogt, Ir.
United States Army, Retired
Brigadier General Helge Hansen
Lt
C
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German Representation
NATO Re
resentatives
.
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one
amuel J. Watson, III
NATO Headquarters
Brussels
p
U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament
,
A 'ency
Colonel Ruprecht Haasler
'
Deutsche Bundeswehr
General Sir Edward Burgess
I
hcnorable Seymour Weiss
Deputy SACEUR
Sy Corporation
Dr. Werner Marx
Member of the Bundestag
Lt. Colonel Nicholas Prideaux
Lt. Commander Geraldine Whitehead
Chairman, Committee on Forei
n
Aide to General Sir Edward Burgess
Strategic Forces Division
g
Affairs
Nuclear Assessment Directorate
Defense Nuclear Agency
Mr. Wolfgang Pordzik
Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftun
Mr. Thomas S. Windmuller
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Washington
D
C
Special Assistant
,
.
.
Office of Assistant Secretary of State for
Uwe Ronneburger
European and Canadian Affairs
Member of the Bundestag
Department of State
Committee on Defense
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