THE MAN WITH ONE RED SHOE

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP88-01070R000201350011-7
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 3
• Document Creation Date: December 21, 2016
• Document Release Date: September 22, 2008
• Sequence Number: 11
• Publication Date: August 27, 1984
• Content Type: OPEN SOURCE

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PROGRAM Morning Edition STAT1ON WAMU-FM
NPR Network
DATE August 27, 1984 8:10 AM
Washington, DC
POLLY DEAN: It is obviously a spoof. It is obviously a
The central plot is so absurd that for anyone to give any
credibility to it I think would be very unusual.
SCOTT SIMON: Polly Dean says there's no way anybody
could believe this espionage film was anything but satire, and she
ought to know. Ms. Dean is an ex-CIA case officer, or agent, with
12 years service. Ms. Dean and another former CIA agent, Penny
Engle, are technical advisers for a new film, "The Man With One
Red Shoe," that's now shooting here in Washington.
They were recruited by another ex-CIA case officer, Rob-
ert Cort, who's begun a second career as a producer at 20th Cent-
ury Fox.
The assignment for Dean and Engle is to help actress Lori
Singer better understand the actual work of being a female spy.
Dean, who did her CIA work primarily in Africa, says that
the undercover operations there were not always as glamorous or
sophisticated as you may expect.
DEAN: Because of the countries in which I worked, which
were not considered terribly hostile, we did not have to resort to
technical devices such as hidden cameras, microdots, and so forth.
I've never had to use any of that.
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SIMON: You two are technical advisers on a movie that's
going to show the zanny, light-hearted, sort of lame-brained side
of espionage work as it's carried out by the Central Intelligence
Agency.
DEAN: Right.
SIMON: [Laughs]. I thought I was overstating it.
DEAN: Well, not as portrayed in the movie. Penny and I
had a little difficulty at first in trying to point out that this
was not realistic, whatever issue was being discussed at the mo-
ment, or whatever prop was being used. But we all came to the
agreement very quickly that we would all assume that the CIA oper-
ated as it is portrayed in the movie and then went from there and
tried -- Penny and I tried to plug in what we hoped would be con-
tributing comments to help make it more realistic.
SIMON: Well, did anything ever happen to you in the CIA,
or did you ever witness, observe or hear about anything happening
in the CIA that might be a little bit more comfortable on "The
Lucy Show" than it would be in -- in secret agent work?
DEAN: For humor -- my goodness, I've never given much
thought to that. I -- off the top of my head, no. And in fact,
working with Lori Singer, who is portraying the CIA case officer
in this film, she was more concerned as to whether either of us
had had experiences that were of a more dangerous nature where we
felt threatened.
SIMON: Polly Dean and Penny Engle both tell of the times
when their work with the CIA was dangerous, but they say that
plenty of it was just simply routine or even dull.
The two have been careful not to mention any specific
details in their stories so as not to compromise national secur-
ity.
Polly Dean does say, though, that the CIA will probably
laugh when the film is released next summer. We asked if in all
those years of working in what's often known as "The Company"
she'd ever thought of herself as a spy, and she said no.
DEAN: You become so ingrained in the thinking that you
are -- an embassy secretary, or whatever your cover story is --and
you learn very quickly never to use the three letters -- C-I-A --
that it is totally second nature to you.
SIMON: Well, are you deceiving yourself, too, as well as
those around you then?
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DEAN: I wonder if some people are. [Laughs]. I really
do. I do think I did, because that's one of the reasons I left.
SIMON: Former CIA officer and present film consultant,
Polly Dean.
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