NOTE FROM GEORGE V. LAUDER

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• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
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• Publication Date: March 19, 1985
• Content Type: NOTES

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Attached is a copy of Stansfield Turner's
remarks to the Press Club per your request.
Unfortunately, the question and answer rtion
of the session was not taped. It is
II recollection that the journa is s
gave im a pretty hard time. Alas, that's all
I can come up with in the way of
substantiation at the moment.
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Admiral Turner's Remarks
to the Washington Press Club Editors' Dinner
Washington, D.C. - 11 April 1978
President Eaton, Attorney General Bell, Dr. Webster,
Miss Walters, ladies and gentlemen:
When Bill Webster and I went to college together, there were
two famous football players in this land and they called them
Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside. Today, in the world of American intelligence
you might call Bill Webster Mr. Inside and myself Mr. Outside. His
province is inside our country, and mine is out, but clearly there must
be very close cooperation and coordination between us. There has,
between the FBI and the CIA, developed in recent years a very good and
warm, satisfactory working relationship. I know that in the years
ahead with Bill Webster at the FBI we can only build upon and continue
that good relationship. I am privileged to share this platform with
you, Bill, and look forward to working with you in keeping our two
agencies close together. Barbara, if he's outside and I'm inside,
Mr. Outside and Mr. Inside, I guess that leaves you Miss.In-between.
And I guess I don't dare suggest closer collaboration between ABC and
CIA, but I am privileged to share this platform with you also. Because
I have these two superstars coming behind me, I'll try to be brief and
highlight for you what I think are four exciting and important trends
in American intelligence activities today.
The first is that we are changing our product. If you look
back 30 years from last September when we first organized a Central
Intelligence Agency for this country, the primary product in those days
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was military intelligence about the Soviet Union. How much that has
changed. Today our interests are deeply into political and economic
intelligence and they far transcend the geography of the Soviet Union.
This country has important relations with most of the 150 nations of
this world and that relationship is largely political and economic with
most of them. we have had to expand our skills, expand the topics
that we cover and the geographical zones as well. I would suppose this
is very much like what's happened in the newspaper business. You, too,
have had to cover many more topics and many more areas. It's a
challenge to us.
In addition, over these 30 years, the government of this country
has frequently called upon the Central Intelligence Agency not only to
provide intelligence information about what was going on in other parts
of the world, but to help do something about it, to influence events.
We call that political action, or covert action. And, here again, our
product is changing because this country no longer has the same feeling
that it wants to interfere in the internal events of other countries,
that it wants to conduct political action. So, that portion of the
Central Intelligence Agency's activities--product--is changing, is
diminishing. So these are two important aspects of our changed product,
but the second trend that I would like to highlight is the change in our
production line itself.
Historically, the production line of intelligence has been the
human intelligence agent - the spy. I don't know about Moses, but Joshua
sent a couple of them into Jericho before he marched around with his
trumpets and they've been with us ever since. But in the last decade
and a half or so, there's been a revolution in how you collect
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intelligence information. We now have amazing technical systems which
bring in vast quantities of intelligence data. They challenge our
analysts; challenge them to absorb, file, store, keep track of, collate,
piece together, these pieces of information that come from these technical
intelligence collection systems. Again, I would think this is very
similar to one of the challenges that must beset you in the newspaper
field. You, too, must be almost surfeited with information that comes
in. But just as your reporters in the field have not been made obsolete
by this, so too, the good, traditional, human intelligence agent has not
either. We need them also. But the change in our production line today
then is that we must meld these together, we must make the human and
these increasing technical capabilities work as a team, to complement
each other. It's a new and exciting challenge for us to do that.
While we're about this, our third new trend is greater openness.
Traditionally, intelligence has operated under maximum secrecy
and minimum disclosure. I don't think we can quite afford that anymore.
We can't afford that because it's my belief that no public institution
can survive in our country unless it does have support from the public.
From about 1974 until 1978, there was intense public criticism of your
country's intelligence activities. Some of it justified, much of it not.
But there was not a great upswelling of public support when it was unjust
criticism simply because the public had no foundation on which to judge,
to ask whether or not these activities were not of great value to the
country. And so, today, we're being more open, we're trying to let the
public see what we do--enough to pass judgment upon us. We're making
more speeches, unfortunately perhaps, we're participating in more
conferences, symposiums; we're responding more forthrightly and completely
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to your inquiries from the press and we're publishing more. Each week,
this past year, we published on an average of two unclassified intelli-
gence reports. I think that this is helping to tell the American
public what we do. But let me suggest that I'm not going to try to
coat the pill sweeter than it is, because we must retain our secrets.
We must operate very largely under the cloak of secrecy or we can't
operate at all. But I sincerely believe that, at the same time, by
being more open we can,,also help to protect the necessary secrets that
we must maintain. How?
Today there is so much classified information. It hangs on
the shelf over here and it says secret, top secret, destroy before
reading. Whatever it may be, there is too much of it and it doesn't
engender the respect that it should. So, by declassifying as much as
we can-and publishing it, I hope to recreate that respect for the classi-
fied information which is left. And the fact that we don't have respect
is indicated by the all too frequent instances of individuals who take
it upon themselves to write articles, or books, which they do not then
clear with us for a security check as they are often required to do by
agreements which they have signed. That, I believe, is a trend that we
cannot countenance or we will have chaos in our governmental process.
We will have a principle whereby any one of the 215 million Americans can
take it upon himself to decide what is in the interest of this country to
keep secret and what is not. Now I'm not simply suggesting that you need
take it from me or from us in the government that we're going to do this
thing right and that we're not going to withhold publication in order to
protect outselves as we are generally accused of, but I'm suggesting
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that you are protected by the fourth trend in American intelligence
today which is greater oversight.
Out of a crucible of public criticism - that I mentioned - has
come a very salutory oversight process. Because we must have secrets, we
can't have full public oversight, but we can have what I call surrogate
public oversight. Yours and the general public's surrogates are first
the President and the Vice President, who today take an intense and
continuing deep interest in our intelligence activities and are well on
top of what we are doing. Next, something called the Intelligence
Oversight Board that was created just two years ago -- former Senator Gore,
former Governor Scranton, and Mr. Tom Farmer of this city -- three men
who report only to the President of the United States and whose only
task is to monitor the legality and the ethics of my, and all my support
in this activity. And finally, we have in both the Senate and the House
of Representatives an Oversight Committee for intelligence today and
these committees give us a thorough scrutiny. I would suggest, particu-
larly to you members of the media, when an individual comes to you and
says it's really in the national interest to publish this or that, even
though I am abrogating my secrecy agreement, you might well want to ask,
but have you tried the oversight process, have you tried these mechanisms
that have been established in order to give some means for individuals
who do have a complaint about me, about anybody in the intelligence game,
an opportunity to voice that complaint in a legitimate and a protected
way. Whistle-blowers who blow first to the established oversight
procedures, in my view, are the sincere whistle-blowers.
These four trends I have outlined I believe are dramatic, dynamic,
and out of them I am very optimistic about the trends of American
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intelligence today. We are, I believe, the number one intelligence
community in the world and I assure you that it is my intent that we do
everything we can to stay number one, but to do so in a way that will
only strengthen our democratic institutions in this country.
Thank you.
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I enclose a copy of the photo which turned
out best and a copy of the Press Club Record
which reproduced another. I am still trying to
get?the, cameraman-to make another try at the bad
film in his camera when he shot you and your
friend and will get back on that. Therefore,
excuse the _ delay_.If
of the enclosed, please drop me a note on the
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Your address to the press was "4.o."
No one has ever spoken better or made his
points so clearly and logically. I was so
proud to be there, and to be in a photo
with you and I will include the enclosed
in my book on the marine heroes. Let us
hope that I will have the pleasure of
seeing you again.
. Respectfully,
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