SPY AGENCY'S FORMER CHIEF TELLS HOW CIA GETS ITS DATA

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• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: October 27, 2004
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• Publication Date: March 15, 1968
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fcssor of political science at 1:;dirt was stored in the building, able that
reproduce the planes t.o;
4 Brown University, spoke last' :for later removal. The tunnel, their exact specifications.
night to the Newport Discussion Kirkpatrick said' led beneath a Kir kpatrick said . the U 2
If Club in the Newport YMCA. ''major highway in East Berlin. made a "come back" during
Prof. Lyman B. Kirkpatrick, Major telephone cables were the Cuban Missile Crisis of 19611 !He said the CIA has 500 Russ-,
the the author of The Real CIA,": located beneath the highway. , 62. By Sept., 1962, daily flights' fan language experts and 100
came up through the Office of; .The CIA tapped and taped! were. made over Cuba, when- experts in Chinese. He said the,
,Strategic Service (OSS) during ""everyone of them. Kirkpatrick
"World War II, and got in on the ',said an "underground telep`ion? ever the cloud cover was less agents, usually males, are eom-.
than 50 per cent. On Oct. 14,, pletely checked out mind- must
ground floor of the CIA when it exchange" room was carved 11962, the : U.. 2 got positive submit to a "voluntary1' pol3'
swag organized in 1946. Before . out beneath the highway. Ile ro f the. Russians. were install- graph test.
~ '40 retiring retiring in served1964, as .Prof. Kirk divismon ,Said the tapes provided inval I in 0 offensive 'missiles at San . Kirlatrick said the CIA's
patri uable intelligence' for some tine, $
,chief, inspector general and ex; before water damage brpught' :Cristobal. "subsidy" of the National Stu-
The CIA. was created along, dent Association, "exposed by
"director of the agency-1 East German telephone crews
After 18 years with the, CIA,,' 'to dig up the section of high- with several other departments` Ramparts magazine," was use-
by the said,, he was as-' way. The last of the tapes by the 1947 National Security ful in that it "balanced' world
,'tounded and shocked", when hey were removed and the tunnelI Act and the agency acts on the youth conferences in Helsinki
left the agency and found' hos?. was blown-up. KirkpatriG}k said authority of the Natonal Secur cones =the err s cities, s, rendering dea totae
file opinion about the agency it took the-CIA another year to sty Council, Kirkpatrick said.
Thi he The "father" of the CIA, he success for the Communist
said, was why he wrote his
Book.
it , In the early 1950s, Kirkpatrick
as in charge of the CIA's
, "foreign collection" or gather-
wing of intelligence information
:'from !oreicn agents.
Kirkpatrick said Russian sc'
Kcurity was especially tight at I
'tjme when much intelligence had.
'to be ferreted out of her. He
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stapes. Donovan of New fork, directors try to dominate the meetings.
Kirkpatrick also spoke of U e' of the OSS in World War II The "Bay of Pigs Disaster;'
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flights over Russia. He said the' The CIA, Kirkpatrick said,,,, id
U - 2 was the brainchild of " Kirkpatrick said was caused
r comnriscs' four "directorates;
dent ;Bissell, now vice press- 1. intelligence, in which a vast by an intelligence malassess-
'dent of United Aircraft in Hart- { , ~ meet of the number of people
'ford, Conn., who suggested put- army of Ph. D. S - experts in every field - work 24- hours' a (needed and of the loyalty of the
Ling a jet. engine in a glider. to assess intelligence infor- Castroites. He said the Press-
They handle up to 100,- dent should not have taken the
'long flew I day matron
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with impunity over - Russia. , 000 items each day. 2. Science b
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said Gen. Wa
a: "tough" CIA executive direr- 'the U - 2s 15 miles high over'
!;tor invited the Joint Chiefs of r _.. ... ~._
, +Staff to a CIA briefinn. The
Joint Chiefs asked the CIA how
long it would take to get the,
(necessary information, and thel
PA's answer was, "ilnsatisfac-
,torv."
i To put a major dent in Rus-
;sian security, a windowless ce-
ment building was erected by,
;the CIA in West Berlin, near;
'the East Berlin border, with an,
impressive array of aerials and'
electronic gadgets on the roof.;
Communist officials, satisfied
'th t the Americans had simply
awns commonplace. 'finish evaluating the remaining.
said, was William J. (Wild Bill) youth groups, which generally
and Technology, in which scien- said i( the CIA made no more
fists and engineers develop said mistakes, it would worry him.
plane and. such as the U- 21, It would mean the agency.
plane and . observation sates- n't being aggressive
limes. 3. Overseas Directorate,- wasough, b said.
which directs the, gathering of enough he Kirkpatrick said the recent
data from agents, 4. Adminis Tet offensive. in Vietnam was
tration, which handles the Sc- another intelligence failure, but
curity, logistics and personnel. It was not exclusively a U.S.
Kirkpatrick said the CIA' failure. ' Kirkpatrick hung much }
when-recruiting epics, looks for;
Ia person who lives in the coun?j
!try they want him to work in,,
has. access to top secret infor-;
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of the blame on the. South Viet
namese. He said the United
States, in Vietnam, has a "dif-
ficult enemy" and a "difficult
ally," and -he "doesn't know
which is the more difficult."'He
said he does not think the war
can be sucessfully fought "on
a cooperative basis," with the
South Vietnamese.
Kirkpatrick said an immedi-
ate American withdrawal from
Vietnam would be "disastrous"
but "we could yield to an in-
ternational force, which would
remain until a coalition govern-
ment could be formed."
Kirkpatrick said he thought
the "Pueblo. Affair was hand-
led quite well." He said the
ship could have been taken
back by force, but not the
crew. He said ' relea?e -of the
crewmen would probably come
only after the North Koreans
~ got all the information they
possibly can get out of the
men. Kirkpatrick said the Pueb
16, in` his opinion, "was sent -in
(there after something very im-
portant -- I don't know what
it was, and .1 don't care to
know."
Kirkpatrick spoke on Russian
intelligence efforts in the United
States and said, "They could
get. most of it (the information)
by backing a truck up to the
Government Printing Office ..
most of the rest they could
read In the newspapers."
The processor delineated the
the FBI, which functions- with-
in the United States. He said'
the CIA's work is directrd
abroad.
In the three ydars he has
taught . at. Brown University,
(Kirkpatrick said, he has never
met with "a single discourtesy
he "felt ' kind of left out" when
Brown students protested CIA
recruitment on campus a n d
didn't even' visit his office. He
estimated about one-per cent
of the Brown students are "ac-
tivists," although this does not
mean the rest support the gov-
lernment's policies.
.Kirkpatrick, and, Herbert. Epstein, 'outgoing prestdent.-_-
FORMER CIA BOSS SPEARS HERE -- Prof. Lyman B. Kirkpatrick, center, former exec-
intelligence reports) war could is!
become too costly...and therein' utive director of the CIA and now a professor' of political science at Brown University,
could he a possibility of peace.' ~; , addressed Newport Discussion Club . last night. With him are, from left,. William R.'
The Discussion Club electedl' Michael, who was elected president of the club, Bruce Henderson, assistant to ;Prof.,
new officers. They were Wil-
liam R. M i c I la e 1, president;
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Frank J. Dwyer, vice presi-
,dent; John N. McAskill Jr.,
treasurer; and George N. Sar-i
antos, secretary. McAskill and.;
Sarantos served during the nast
year and were reelected. Elect-
ed to the executive committee
were Dr. Anthony A: Caputi.
Thomas D. Dunn and Donald
T. Gibbs,`all of whom serves
during the past ycaAPV?fdI
ward Goldberg.::.
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