AUTHOR INTERVIEWED

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PROGRAM Howard Miller Show
DATE November 5, 1971
AUTHOR INTERVIEWED
CITY .
Chicago
HOWARD MILLER: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. It's nice
being with you again. In accordance with John Coleman's wintry wea-
ther forecast for tonight and for this weekend, I think we're in the
right place this'evening, in the war cozy surroundings of your living
room. Thank you for inviting us. My guest tonight-?--and we're going
to discuss the Central. Intelligence Agency of the United States Govern-
ment, ' is a man who has written' a novel. on that subject matter. . His
name is Victor Marchetti. His book is called, "The Rope Dancer." We
welcome him to Chicago and to the Chicago program. Thank you for be"
ing here, victor.
If there's adversary to this program, because victor is defin--
itely a critic of the CIA, the man who will represent the affirmative
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is a Profes. or of Govern
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that the CIA is doing a'remarkably
ment. His name is Dr. Kellis, Dr. James Kellis,' and we welcome the /
good doctor to our program, and hope that as an adversary he will
.stand and uphold the CIA. Is that generally your attitude; the way
you feel about the CIA?
I would agree with--in--in some points with
IS : Well
JAMES KEL7
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Victor. Of bourse there are some?discrepencies, some flaws and some
failings in the CIA. But, generally, I think the long review, having'
been in this game longer than Victor has, I. feel that the CIA is be--
ing---doing a reasonably good job and we can't expect perfection. CIA
been in---has been in being for only 25 years. The British Intelligence
has been functioning for four hundred years. They still make mistakes'
there.
HOWARD MILLER: Victor, I'm curious as to why the "Rope Dancer,"
being fiction, you would. use as a chronicle of our times, as your crit-
ique of the CIA, rather than to write a non-fiction piece.
VICTOR MARCHETTI: Well, originally I wanted to write a non-
.fiction piece, a critical analysis of the----not only the CIA but of
the US Intelligence System. But at the time,immediately after leav-
ing the 'agency, I had a lot.of security hang-ups and loyalties to
my old colleagues, and I didn't want to.do that. In the novel, I
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