MEETING WITH ANDY FEINSTEIN, MAJORITY CHIEF OF STAFF, CIVIL SERVICE SUBCOMMITTEE RE: PAY PROPOSALS.

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP89G00643R000700040018-7
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: C
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: December 23, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 20, 2011
• Sequence Number: 18
• Publication Date: September 4, 1987
• Content Type: MEMO

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4 September 1987
SUBJECT: Meeting with Andy Feinstein, Majority Chief of Staff,
Civil Service Subcommittee re: Pay Proposals.
1. I meet with Andy Feinstein, Majority Chief of Staff
for the House Subcommittee on Civil Service to discuss his
views on the likely outcome of several of the proposed bills
introduced by Congressmen Ackerman, Wolfe Oakar seeking changes
in the civil service personnel management system .
2. Feinstein thinks there is a lack of interest in the
house about moving to change the personnel management system
along the lines of China Lake or National Bureau of Standards.
He thinks most members of congress just see these as ways to
raise government pay, and moreover, he does not think the
changes made are very innovative. They are not budget neutral
as shown by the National Bureau of Standards who has completed
its plan which suggests that there will be increased costs at
NBS to implement.
3. Feinstein indicated that some of the full Post
Office and Civil Service Committee members are sensitive,
especially Chairman Ford, to government agencies moving out on
their own. Ackerman is not one of those. For his part,
Feinstein holds that "politically Fowerfull" agencies should
not wait for OPM and Congress to act. He doesn't think it will
ever happen.
I said that we had been thinking about some changes
in our own personnel system and were developing a proposal
which will probably replicate much of what is in several of the
pending pay bills. When he asked why, I explained that we too
were experiencing some to the problems other govenment agencies
were around hiring and retaining the best people and that we
placed significant hardships on out people. I avoided a
question he asked about what our house oversight committee
thought of our proposal which prompted him to say the FBI is
currently seeking some changes, and he recalled that DIA and
NSA ha, received approval last year. He said that the best way
to get Post Office and Civil Service on our side is to do what
NSA did, i.e., have a influential congressman talk with Ford.
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5. Baring that kind of approach, I asked what would he
think about sharing the ideas we had with his committee
chairman and the chairman of the Post Office and Civil Service
Committee. He thought that was essential and that we should
start with the latter committee's staff-- DeYulia, Lockhardt
and Myers. I informed him that we had thought about that but I
was concerned over the risks of a negative reaction. He thought
there was a risk but it was slight. I asked him if he had any
interest and could he be of any help, following up on Bruce
Navaro's (Director, Congressional Relations for OPM) view that
we had to have Feinstein on our side or at least neutralized.
He said that he would be willing to hear what we had in mind
and offer his opinions.
6. I came away from this meeting a little uncetain
about whether we should try and cultivate Feinstein further. He
will come out to the building and talk with some of our
personnel people about legislation affecting us in the broad
area of personnel. I think this is worth persuing, and we could
gently raise the pay proposal, rather than send him a copy and
follow with a detailed discussion.
cc: DDA
DI/Op
DD;/PA&E /OP
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