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Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 COPY - ECE:SS Compared Sd t1RCE: N YORK Aifl R IC A.N', APRIL 16l 1933. RUSSIA CANNOT RE .AIN COM. YUNI:MC , IF WORKER, ELSEWHERE DO NOT AID - TROT?XY Farmer Leader Guarded in Exile Loon Trotxk? y Exi c Soviet Leo in an n to view w~ Albert We s o It was my good fortune to spend three weeks with Leon Devidowich Trotsky. For thin privilege I was willing to travel the six thousand miles from Now York City to Turkey. From Istanbul, I made the last lap in a little steamer that sailed out of the Golden Horn to the island of 13uyuk Ada (Prinkipo) in the Sea of armora. There, facing the sea, surrounded by a high wall, was the house of Trotsky. I went to the gate. A swarthy Turkish special officer barred my way. The illusion of 'vacation" at once evaporated. This was not "vacation," but exile, and not only exile, but jell. The prisoner could walk about, he could take his boat and fish, but always with the officers at his side. Trotsky rents a large, pleasant two-storied house. On the ground floor are the living quarters of those com- rades who aid him, and of the cook, a pleasant German woman. Above are the quarters of his immediate family (including his wife and grandson) and his office, library and study. I was taken into the study where Trotsky was working on the second volume of his "History of the Russian Revolu- tion." What I saw was a strongly-built, stocky, medium- sized figure of 53 or so. Exile apparently has not withered his strength, even though the climate has given his the malaria from which h e suffered intensely in hot weather and though he i n on a diet due to stomach trouble. M3 SNAP Trotsky Is Combination of Grace and Strength His familiar thick mane of hair, formerly jet black, is now streaked with gray. But his eyes still snap behind Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 the thick glasses, and his firm features hold all their aggressiveness. The strong, well-shaped hands, broad back, graceful carriage, healthy, glowing tanned skin, the brilliant smile that illumines all his features, every- thing about Trotzky suggests a combination of grace and strength, of brilliance and reserve, of biting humor and relentless determination. He speaks slowly and decisively, like his written style, compact with thought, and scintillating with striking Phrases. "The style is the man" indeed. Trotsky showed a tremendous catholicity of views. We talked of Chino, India, Germany, ltely, Spain, .America, Russia, the Negro question, the labor party question in America, the world economic crisis, the personal traits of the leading actors on the 'uropean political stage today, literatures military tactics; on all these questions Trotsky showed himself a broadly informed man with unusual penetration. I asked him: t do you think of the German situation? "1b me, Trotsky replied, "Germany is the key to the international situation. Lot us look at the nest - Japan will not attack Russia Immediately. In Asia things go more slowly. Japan will have bar hands full for a while with i anehuria, which can well become for her what oroeoo was to the Spanish dynasty. "Besides, Japan has for too much respect for the new Red Army of Russia to try war without a guaranty from the West. "The West is decisive. If the world is to turn Communist it must come from the contradictions in the 'West. And the key to the West, to kurope, lies in Germany," "In the face of these conditions, it is disturbing to find that all working class revolutions in Germany have been defeated, that the Communist party does not grow, and, to cap it all, a great growth of Poscism is taking place under the direction of Fitler's Nazis." "What do you consider the reason for this growth of Fascism?" I asked. "And what will become of it?" "Hitler in power signifies the actual massacre of the Communists and their virtual elimination, together with the destruction of the German trade unions. "Such developments out down the Communist parties everywhere. They remove the greatest obstacle to a world war against Soviet Russia - namely, the resistance of the organized international working class. PRIDIC TS Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 PRED ICTS United States-Soviet Conflict "soviet Russia cannot remain indefinitely Ca iat if the workers elsewhere cannot aid it, despite ter inter- nal strength of Russia, fortified by the five-year plan." I questioned Trotsky as to his opinions on America. "America," he sold, "is the great reserve of world capitalism The United States is the very antithesis of the 7ovl*t Union and sooner or later then two titans must come to a life-and -death grip. "This, of course, does not prevent them from having many things temporarily in sommon, as the hostility to Japan's Vanchurian adventure, the absence of both the United States and the bovlet Union from the League of Nations, and the trade and technical relations between America and Russia showed. "For America has to fight not only Russia, but the British Empire end the attempt to organize a United States of Europe against the power of America. As capitalist Europe had striven to 'Americanize' itself industrially, so America will become 'Europeanized' politically." "And what chance is there for a strong Communist party in the U. S. A.?" I queried. "There is no doubt in my mind," was his answer, "that now in the [united States class lines will have to be openly recognized and a mass workers' party emerge. CRUDE So Trotsky Characterizes U. S. Communist Party "Whether such a Party will take the form of a labor party, in the English sense, or the mass growth of a Socialist or Communist party or some unique combination, it is difficult to say, but It is quite certain that whether In the worst period of the oriole, or when a possible upturn takes place, such a class politics will arise. "But your socialist and communist movements are the worst of any," he exclaimed. "There is no socialist party 60 corrupt as the American one, no Communist party so crude as the Communist party of the United States, and no 'Right 4ing' group of Communist* ao crassly opportunist as the American. But the leaders of these elements will be rushed aside by the virile working class movements that are bound to arise. "Should a Labor party be organized by such a sponta- neously arising working class movement it is the duty of the Courlista, even if they have to join it, constantly to criticize it and expose its limitedness. .on Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 Approved For Release 2008/06/10: CIA-RDP90-01226R000100120006-4 "On no account must the Communists help to organize a Labor party, but must build a Communist party in opposition to it." It is evident that Trotzky's years of exile and imprisonment have not impaired him in the least. I have seen bi: at work from early morning ti,Ul late at night. We have gone fishing together at 3 In the morn-- ing and I have seen him retire the same evening only at 11 or 12 o'clock. Fishing now is his great hobby. And to fish with Trotsky in in Itself great sport. To watch him cunningly creep up on the places where he thought fish might ahounc ane deftly spread the nets around, to see him seize the rocks previously collected In the boat and hurl them in the water, driving the fish into the nets; to see his eyes sparkle and his enthusiasm grow as the nets would be brought up loaded with beautiful specimens; to share his humor as the fish were picked from the net and collected and to enjoy with him the fish caught that day at the dinner table - this was a pleasure indeed. Sometime: the fishing was not so good. Then Trotzky's face would reflect this great failure of man against nature. We would stay out all morning. Natalie, his wife, would grow anxious and send the outboard motor boat (of American make) after us with breakfast and sometimes with dinner. ?e would eat bread and cheese and perhaps an egg on the boat and go on fishing. Trotsky Indeed is en inveterate fisherman, going out in all kinds of weather, much to the worry of all of us and to the discomfort of t`Fe police guards, especially once, when a storm coming up on the Sea of armors drove the little rowboat on the rocks where Trotzky was stranded and drenched all night. Trotsky Plebes in All kinds of 'reather. However, fishing cannot quite take the place of hunting a sport which Trotzky misses. Pe is a very good shot. Once, laughingly, he pointed out how difficult it was to shoot wild ducks with a pistol, and then, seeing one riding the waves far from us, tried to get it with his automatic The duck started ducking when Trotsky began to shoot. It is well that Trotzky knows how to shoot, for he may be called upon to use that art. 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