HAC S & I TEAM MEETING WITH THE DDA AND THE DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS

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• Collection: General CIA Records
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• Document Page Count: 16
• Document Creation Date: December 22, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 7, 2010
• Sequence Number: 9
• Publication Date: November 5, 1986
• Content Type: MEMO

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CONFIDENTIAL
OCA 86-3758
5 November 1986
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: HAC S & I Team Meeting with the DDA and the
Director of Logistics
1. Today, 5 November 1986, Al Boudreau and Ron
Carpenter, House Appropriations Committee Surveys and
Investigations Staff met with Deputy Director for
Administration Donnelly to discuss their investigation into
the current and projected real estate costs for the Agency
in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area. Mr. Donnelly's,
deputy, Hank Mahoney, and John Ray, Director of Logistics,
attended along with the undersigned.
2. In response to Mr. Donnelly's question, Boudreau
said that their main tasks were to look into the space
utilization, security and other costs of the new
Headquarters building. They are also interested in the
overall use of buildings in the greater metropolitan area.
They will attempt-to make cost,comparisons between our
buildings and those constructed for similar purposes by NSA
and DIA. They will want to determine whether the Agency is
subject to the same real estate and construction regulations
as the rest of the federal establishment. Boudreau said
their investigation will take about three months.
3. Mr. Donnelly said that his objective as the DDA is
to consolidate the Agency workforce from the 23-24
facilities currently occupied down to ten or less. He
explained the factors driving that decision. He went on to
explain the increases in the size of the Agency workforce
since 1980 and the impact that increase has had on our space
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
FROM:
Chief, Configuration Management Staff,
Facilities Management Division (FMD), OL
SUBJECT: Discussion Between HAC/S&I and
About Space Allocation and Space Records.
1. Mr. Boudreau and Mr. Carpenter meet with
from 9:30 A.M. to noon 12 November 1986. In general they asked
questions about the size of my staff, the various record
systems used or being developed to keep track of space
utilization, how we made projections for future space needs.
They asked about the sequence of events that led to a decision
to consolidate at Reston. They asked if there were any
comparative cost studies. The last paragraph of this memo
lists the documents of which they requested copies.
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3. Copies of Documents were requested. They will be
delivered Thursday 13 November 1986.
a. View graphs of Oct 1985 HMB w/Option 5.
b. Minutes of HMB meetings Oct 7, 1935, and
January 7, 1986.
c. Copy of Space Allocation Document, #099 will be
providei.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
Chief, Operations, Facilities
Management Division, OL
SUBJECT: Discussing with HAC/S & I on
New Headquarters Building
1. On 13 November 1986 Mr. Boudreau and Mr. Carpenter met
with Chief and Deputy Chief of New Building Project Office, and
Chief, Operations, Facilities Management Division from 1330
hours until 1500 hours on the referenced subject.
d) Question: Was any purchase of land required for
the New Headquarters Building?
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SUBJECT: Discussing with HAC/S & I on
New Headquarters Building
e) Question: Describe the A-E selection process.
Response: Thirty-five firm expressed interest in the
building desi
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an Agency A-E Section Board (4
Agency and 1 GSA) ranked the firms and selected the
top three f i
or n-depth interviews. On the basis of
technical expertise the firms were ranked as follewQ.
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Chief, 0L/B$F
SUBJECT: MEETING WITH HAC S$I
1. Mr Boudreau and Mr Carpenter met with and
on 18 November from 0900 to 1045. in general they
were interested in the type of information that is available to
them in OL/BlF. General financial systems and reports were
discussed with then, and they reviewed the operation of the GIMS
system. They were provided a copy of the May 1986 Monthly
Construction keport (att) and an analysis (att) prepared by
regarding external buildings costs and relinquishments.
Regarding the later, they were advised that the analysis was
dated and has been overtaken by events. They indicated that
they unuerstood and just wanted to review the type of analysis
that was done.
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SUBJECT: Meeting with Messrs. Al Boudreau and Ron Carpenter,
Committee on Appropriations, Surveys and
Investigations Staff
1. The staffers met with Chief, RECD from about 0930 until
1530 with on-and-off representation from
Attachment A contains copies of all the
documents provided this date. They additionally asked for the
final version (Comptroller's) of the A104 Study, background
information on the?A104 Study, and a copy of the results of
surveys for office space. These reports will be
provided in the near future. During the discussions they
targeted on the following topics:
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SUBJECT: Meeting with Messrs. Al Boudreau and Ron Carpenter
3. In closing, it was stated periodically throughout the
discussions that the space planning and policy arm is
represented by the Configuration and Management
System, the EXDIRs. The implementing arm is RECD.
Coordination and communication is close with information and
data flowing both ways, but Hawk et al plans for and approves;
RECD et al designs, constructs, and accomplishes.
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24 November 1986
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
Subject: Discussion with Rogers Stewart-GSA regarding a visit
by Al Boudreau - HAC/S$I Staff
In responding to a phone message for from Rogers
Stewart - Acting Director, Real Estate Division, Nat'l Capital
Region, GSA, I learned that Al Boudreau has scheduled a meeting with
Mr. Stewart to discuss the facilities lease. The
meeting is to take place a ogers office on 25 November at
1:00PM. Rogers was interested in any background information that
could be provided relative to Al's visit.
I told Rogers that Al's visit is legitimate; that we're
discussing the Agency's present and future real estate needs in the
capital area with Al and Ron Carpenter who represent the HAC; that
both Al and Ron -have Agency security tickets, and that discussions
on their present inquiries are limited to the SECRET level. I
recommended that he (Rogers) respond fully to Al's questions, but
not expand discussions beyond the bounds of answering specific
questions. I also informed Rogers that information we've provided
Al so far is limited to overt Agency facilities.
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26 November 1986
MEMORANDUM FOR: Executive Officer,-Office of Logistics
Associate General Counsel
SUBJECT: 21 November 1986 Meeting with Messrs.
Ron Carpenter and Al Boudreau
1. At their request, the undersigned met with Ron Carpenter
and Al Boudreau to discuss the general legal basis of the
Agency's leasing authorities, and in particular the acquisition
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7. Messrs. Carpenter and Boudreau requested copies of the
CIA Act, three House and Senate reports on the Act, and a
Comptroller General opinion which I had cited. All of these
materials were provided, copies of which are attached.
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