LUNCH WITH BERNIE MCMAHON

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP90B01390R000600690001-8
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: December 22, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 10, 2010
• Sequence Number: 1
• Publication Date: September 18, 1986
• Content Type: MEMO

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18 September 1986
OCA 86-3161
SUBJECT: Lunch with Bernie McMaJ
Future Soviet strategy paper. Regarding the paper due
February, 1987, the meeting between Doug MacEachin and SSCI
staff has been rescheduled for next Monday at 11:30. The
meeting with Members originally scheduled for the 25th of
September has been postponed.
The newly issued NIE on Gorbachev (SNIE 11/9/86) goes a long
way towards answering the questions in the July 1986 letter.
Therefore, it should be the focus of the Monday discussion, and
since Fritz Ermarth was the presiding NIO, he should join Doug
MacEachin in that discussion. All that really needs to be
accomplished is to agree on what questions have not been covered
in the SNIE and therefore need to be covered in the February
paper. Regarding the hearing, we agreed this would be a
briefing without a transcript at the NIO-office director level.
It can also be postponed for a few weeks while we regroup. My
guess is that if we postpone it for several weeks time
constraints will compress it either to a brief presentation or
to cancellation.
Helms letter re Chile. Durenberger also got a copy of the
letter to Casey. Bernie strongly believes that if we decline to
show Helms the field information reports Helms has requested, he
will escalate until he gets them. Bernie says the reports are
harmless. Not having seen them, I could not respond, but we
should look at it.
Durenberger letter on Byrd allegations. I explained that
and I were trying to get an appointment with Senator Byrd
to deny the allegations. I also mentioned that we plan to tell
Byrd that the SSCI has looked into the allegations and found
them baseless.
Angola. Nothing is brewing in the Senate on Angola. Bernie
feels that now that the House has spoken the Senate will not act.
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1 October meeting with General Counsels on Counter-
terrorism. This activitv is not to be confused with the
counterterrorism I This
activity is an ongoing undertaking between general counsels at
various agencies. State has taken the lead. It does not appear
to be of concern to our office.
Survivability Hearing. Bernie is clearly unhappy about the
Community reaction to this hearing. He thinks Ed Heinz will be
sandbagged. The Committee does not believe that the Community
has taken survivability seriously and is concerned that Heinz'
testimony will essentially be a put off. I explained that this
was a IC Staff problem and that our office was basically
uninvolved.
Committee Reports. Before the end of the Congress SSCI
expects to publish both a classified and unclassified versions
of a report on counterintelligence and security
countermeasures. Apparently, the FBI has written much of it.
There is also a report due on analysis, this being the one that
caused some controversy because of erroneous material in the
five case studies on which it was based. The case studies have
now been removed, Ockenden and Graham Fuller have discussed the
report and everybody apparently is happy. There will be a
report on the effects of declining oil revenues or prices
prepared by and finally a report on China by
Distribution:
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1 - D/OCA Chrono
1 - EO/OCA
1 - DD/HA/OCA
1 - DD/SA/OCA
1 - DD/Leg/OCA
D/OCA:DDG:mdo (18 Sep 86)
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