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• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP91-00682R000300200008-2
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 20, 2016
• Document Release Date: October 23, 2006
• Sequence Number: 8
• Publication Date: August 13, 1951
• Content Type: MFR

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13 August 1951
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
1. On 8 August a meeting was held between Mr. Robert
Morris, Special Counsel for the Internal Security Subcommittee
of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Mr. Frank Wisner and Mr.
Pforzheimer. At that meeting Mr. Wisner informed Mr. Morris
STATOTHR of what he knew regarding the allegedlincideut based upon
reports he had received as Assistant Dircctor,'OPC.
2. Mr. Wisner read Mr. Morris some pct-tinent quotations
from a statement prepared b
25X1A representative at the Heeling. As
Wisner had only hearsay evidence as tour
1w ho had been the CIA
i
it was apparent that Mr. STATOTHR'
meeting, and STATOTHR
STATOTHR that only I could state what was in his mind when he made
his suggestions, Mr. Morris felt that it would probably not be net cs-
sary for Mr. Wisner to appear before the Committee, although filial
word would have to conic from the Committee itself. Mr. It1t'r-ris
asked Mr. Wisner whether he knew whether Diad protested 25X1A
5X1 to that the names which suggested were Connnunisis 25X1
STATOTHR and that as alleged to have replied that they were not, that
they were merely very "politically sophisticated Mr. W isuer had
not heard of any such statement.
3. Later in the day Mr. Pforzhcinicr x\cnt to Mr. Moi ris'
office at the latter's request, and as shown a copy of an alleged
25X1A statement by~nade quite recently which set forth in con-
STATOTHR siderable detail the conversation between and 0 25X1A
This included the statement on political sophistication noted above,
as well as certain other statements about the tneetinng. Mr. Pfor,*,-
heimer brought this statement to the attention of Mr. WA:isner who
had never seen it previously, nor had Mr. Wisner been previously
aware of the full nature of the remarks made at ihc~inect- STATOTHR
ing. As Mr. Morris transmitted this information to 1\-tr. Pfora.heitner
on a very personal basisfor limited information only, no official
use could be made of it other than in discussions N\ith the Director
and Deputy Director, Mr. lvvisner and Col. Edwards.
4. On August 10, Mr. Wisncr, Col. Edwards and Mr.
Pforzheimer briefed the Director on this subsequent memorandum.
At that point a copy of an official memorandum from to Mr.
25X1A
of OPC was located by Col. Ed,,Nards. This memorandum set
25X1A
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 forth in considerable detail the conversation between
and The Director indicated that Mr. Wisner should
talk to to determine the full background of these statements.
As a result of this meeting, Mr. Wisner talked with 25X1A
and on 11 August informed Mr. Pforzheimer that the statement from
Ion which Mr. Wisner had been relying as an official report
to himself was not such a report, but merely a broad statement to
the OPC security officer. Mr. Wisner discussed this matter again
with the Director and as a result of this discussion requested me to
inform Mr. Morris of these additional circumstances.
5. On 13 August Mr. Pforzheimer called Mr. Morris and
informed him that CIA had unearthed a detailed statement from
which in many ways was identical with the statement Mr
Morris already had, and that this was the first time Mr. Wisner
had seen this statement. Mr. Pforzheimer informed Mr. Morris
that at the time Mr. Wisner had talked with him he gave him all of
the details as he then knew them, fully believing that the entire
story was then before him. However, this subsequent paper added
considerable detail to Mr. Wisner's background and that we wished
to inform him that we did have such a document. Mr. Morris was
most appreciative of thisinformation and stated that had STATOTHR
appeared before the Su 17) committee in Executive Session on 10 August
and denied making the statement attributed to him. Mr. Morris
stated that there had been a second CIA person present at the~ATOTHR
meeting in 1949, and inquired as to whether we had any statement
from the second participant.
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6. On 14 August Senator Ferguson expressed concern to Mr.
Pforzheimer regarding the whole incident and assured him that
every care would be taken to preserve CIA security. He was ex-
tremely interested in what ought to accomplish by STATOTHR
his suggestion, and I informed the Senator that ould STATOTHR
be the only person to answer that question.
7. Mr. Wisner discussed the entire matter in detail with
Mr. Humelsine, Deputy Undersecretary of State for Administra-
tion, on the morning of 14 August, and a meeting was held that
afternoon with the Director,. Mr. Wisner, Mr. Pforzheimer and
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 o l Hansen, front CIA, and `Mr. Humelsine and r. Fisher,
Legal Adviser, of the State Department.
STATOTHR
8. The State D partinent took the position that
was hampered in his defense by the fact that he was forbidden to
discuss the matter with the Internal Security Subcommittee because STATOTHR
had told the
of the security necessary for OPC operations.
Subcommittee that'the subject was classified and they were request-
ing him to inform the Subcommittee as to the authority for the classi-
fication. The State Department took the position that the United STATOTHR
States Government owedi ome protection for placing
himself in this position, particularly in view of thrr fact that hr
could not explain what his alleged remarks involved. The Depart-
ment therefore wished the Director to talk with Senator Smith
of North Carolina, who is a Member of the Subcommittee. Mr.
Fisher further pointed out that if it came to a final showdown be-
tween protecting one man r sacrificing the security of STATOTHR
OPC operations there would be little question that the Department
and the Secretary would stand with OMr. Pforzheimcr STATOTHR
pointed out that if he and Mr. Humelsine talked with Chairman
McCarran and Senator Ferguson, both of whom were knowledge-
able on some phases of CIA operations, it might be possible to
explain the security problem and state that the information. could
not be disclosed. However, Mr. Pforzheimer felt that this would
not resolve the final question in the Committee's mind as to whether
had made his remarks and whether they carried. the implica-
tion which the Committee attributed to them.
9. It was finally determined that Mr. Pforzheimer and Mr.
Humelsine should meet with Senators McCarran and Ferguson,
and the Director authorized Mr. Pforzheimer to state:
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a. The operations involved in the0 meeting are STATOTHR
carried out under NSC Directives which are classified Top
Secret, and therefore cannot be discussed byl STATOTHR
b. Under these Directives the fact that there even are
such operations cannot be discussed;
c. The proposals which suggested are not un- STATOTHR
usual, and had General Smith been Director at the time
they were made, under appropriate security, they might
have been approved;
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d. If this is not satisfactory to Senators McCarran
and Ferguson, the Director would be pleased to invite
them to lunch and discuss the matter with them further.
10. Mr. Humelsine and Mr. Pforzheimer met with Senators
McCarran and Ferguson on 15 August. The result of that meeting
is included in my Memorandum for the Record of 15 August, for-
warded to the DCI on 16 August, a copy of which has been forward-
ed to the recipients of this memorandum previously.
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11. On 19 September, Mr. Humelsine called Mr. Pforzheimer
and stated that he had talked with Mr. Sourwine, chief counsel of
the Senate Judiciary Committee, and that Sourwine felt certain
loose ends needed to be tied together. For this reason, Mr.
Humelsine wished General Smith to write Senator McCarran a
letter re-stating his position.
12. Mr. Pforzheimer discussed this matter with Mr. Wisner
and Col. Hansen, and pointed out that the Senators had not made
any further request of us, and that as far as we were concerned,
the matter was closed, at least for the time being. Mr. Wisner
felt, however, that CIA would be in the position of leaving a State
Department man on a limb on our' behalf, which would have a bad
repercussion on the Department. It was therefore agreed to re-
commend that the DCI should write a letter to Mr. Humelsine,
which he could use before the Committee if necessary, but not
write Senator McCarran direct. The DCI agreed to this proce-
dure. The correspondence is attached.
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