TRANSCRIPT OF CAREER SERVICE CONFERENCE OF 3 AUGUST 1954

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MEMORANDUM FOR: Assistant Director for Personnel
FROM; Chief, Career Service Staff
SUBJECT; Transcript of Career Service Conference
of 3 August 195
1. There are attached copies No. 1, 2, and 3 of the transcript
of the proceedings of the Career Service Conference. Copy No. 4
is retained in the files of this Staff and copy No. 5 has been sent
to the Planning and Analysis Staff for its use. The three copies
transmitted here are No. 1 for the Director, the Deputy Director and
members of the Career Council who are located in the Administration
Building, and for permanent record in the Executive Registry; No. 2
for your files and; No. 3 for other members of the Career Council
located in this general area.
2. You will recall that in adjourning the Conference you
announced that a brochure describing it would be distributedl to all
personnel of the Agency (see transcript). It is recommended that
this brochure be prepared as soon as possible and perhaps the follow-
ing steps could be taken:
a') the principals who spoke might care to edit or amplify
their remarks recorded in the transcript herewith;
b) all of the questions which were received, both prior to
the Conference and during the Conference, might be
tabulated and consolidate(t and perhaps rewritten so as
to better reflect those areas of uncertainty about
which personnel of the Agency wish to be enlightened;
c) answers to those questions which would cover the basic
policy., as well as detailed procedures might then be
devised.
. The above elements could be the raw material out of which
a brochure that we have often titled in a preliminary sort of way,
''&~at the CIA Career Service 111feans to You, tt could be prepared.
Part 1 might be a statement of objectives and principles together
with a general overall description of career service in the Agency
and Part 2 might be a list of the more important questions selected
from the 500 or so that are available, together with their appropriate
answers. I believe it would be appropriate to submit the text of the
brochure to the Career Council. An overseas edition should also be
prepared. A certain psychological advantage through prompt action could
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be gained by issuing this as speedily as possible, and I regret that
I an not available for the next two weeks to help to work on it.
Chief, Career Service Staff
Attachment - as stated
C gd (7 Aug 54)
Distribution
0 $~ 1 - Addressee
1 - PAS
1 - CSS
1 -- Chrono
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emm cCOMPEMM
TuesW, 3 August 19%
3:30 p.m.
Dee ent of , iculture Aiitori
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Marl" P. tells
IF= B. rs.rUmbrtck,, IG
P4bmt Amoary, Jr., 10/1
Zee K. White, W /A
Executive Pagistryy
` J ID- 2. Barrie G. Rye, AD/P
lbtt3e a Baird, DTR
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Pram G. Wier, ta
tsreer Serr4ce Ste ,~
JO. 41 Cu*w Service S to f,.
plwmin-g and Analysis Staff,
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CIA CAFM SUN= C1i`
se$ 3 Amt 1
3:30 p.m.
Departnent of Agriculture Auditorium
Present
Allen W. DuUms
Director of Central Intelligence
Deputy Director of Central
CIA Career council
Harrison. C. Reynolds
Assistant, Director for Pereciawl
Chair* an, CIA Carer council
Presiding
Robert wary, Jr.
Deputy Director (Intellic
Kattbew Baird
Director of i g
Richard Nalme,
Chief of Operations, IDD/P
Alternate for Deputy Director (Plate)
I~ymm B. , trio;,
motor General
Assistant Director for Cowzmicatime
Lawrence X. White
Deputy Director (Administration
Freak G. Wiener
Deputy Director (Plans)
Moderator
Office of Per
Supervisors of the Central Intellige
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The CIA
of 'i
SERV= C SHIMM convened at 313(0 P.M., 3
UM., With Mr. i rriecau 0. maids, Assistant
and gentl a nen, this gathering could cow
12 to which you have been invited as
, the Director and the Deputy Director to meet with all the seat
of CIA we stationed in Wash .
c I introduce the persons t we
this Conference. Much of what i
bore is classified information. Each of you will observe the requisite
is is the only xva .lab
the meeting. Them will two brief periods
ions which you wish to
question
Kirk
have been handed to you, at the door
me, I Work like to remind
the first collection at about 10 minutes
h are not answered by
ion period, Vill be answered by letter to
r who asks the question.
a be pregunptua in introducing my colleagues to
as fence who have Just returned from averse", they
your left, Mr. Matthew lard, Ditre ztor of 'ral n g,,
for the Deputy Director of Plans,, Mr. Pra
Platsal General Cabell., Dayuty Director of Central Iatelli-
ne.
+y Director of Intelligence., Colo
etraticn~
Assistant Director f'+
to ~ the discussion.
of CIA, this is probably
service. This afternoon, for
1 of the APWW in Washington are assembled is one spot.
me mote it a meeting of all +1oyeres is W"hi
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tions and the
gati
Ci`v
r to
deta , very carat et ady vas me ft of vat legislation
the results represent their unanimous v
ch I should like to emphasize. Vi
given as to tether CTA should have a co?iss
as it is presently constituted with
y+cu. that
elan and the Special,. Assistant to th
Of
the military
rice. A a representative of CIA, van pp
on Cour ttt+ee Vh eh std the pro- of the
t of .ail this irk vii be. avlained
ibis members of C
ire is one partict
that the greater flexibility
U than would be the rigidity imposes by
experiewe will shat that this is not a ads,
LUA
to a reps mpr personal satisfaction at being
a career service In the CIA.
Y of
I cut short
n e' on the West Coast b
mo,{ ,~ night for this meeting. MirmWw
fisted with Individuals devoting a lifet
b u t I certainly h a v e been particularly Impressed by the 44mlic ation of t
gence. I think that this dedicati shoald
cation to cater serv
the development of the greatest Utelligence, service
o,nt of the
rice system the responsibility ban rested
Be will ess you num.,
the
I as going to try to expiai
of work that Is graphically rep
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on, the broad
by the
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Bch you see pied in front of
1951 a Weer Service Committee fwd to study the
ral.:nte:
e side of the house
1952 this
the Director of Training. Frog October 1951
28 m"tings, at which the pry were tbre-~ ov
Wither there :
slice Bch would signed by the Pr sI
reby the Director
L"i
obvious that it VMS tly, to our advantage
major
Lt of obligation. Swuld
may, or should CIA a np y maintain the present
us can. leave tomorrow. This was extreme controversial. It divided at-
lines, ose might ', because one side of A&wcy felt quite strong
st4a
setters and typists
not Peel Str ,
are almost couplet+ overt in their
secrecy; an on
e of vbich is not terribly great, to which
it today. Consequently, one of the most
trom machetes and machine guns tom 1tiS rs b m , and
r Did At E career service for all of the Central Inteui a may,
of associated career services? +walaiDg not only
the status Of the organization in the Natio .
the world today with other Intelligence .services,
ice].. "yen" in favor of +I intelligence service eUCCUP&S
3 -
e Conmi ttee which net in 1951
at the pile of documents on the
ask forces. To give you
piece or
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Me grow on e! rating - b
silt
tames Paport - set 16 time. study group
r, The Wroup on the pees
0 to Mae le the
. Me grow on selection
1y; (b) then they Pas
The group
by
icd; (a) wban. they
period into eadre career personnel - that group se
sce 12 time.
Lt ate, w e r e eaqposed of
Lv si chief, and they a long, hard hours, into t
Comdttee submitted its report
net up the CIA Career Service
these mss,
or two yeses, During this period. this ioard has not 35 tip
.ls of what is this career program
fare" whit I mmtloned under the fay C i tte e,
&, and I want to mention several of tea, in passing. For exaWle
group continued its work,
,urity VAdal, which is the bigbest award which can
, not 014 intel
A legislative task force last down to t
prly the
legislration re it , r ether we should
Shot" get the 3 egislation
other Bid that
of 1933 the Prebidont
native flask i ce report is
group cm the barer t
a job which we feel nov is practically *cup
that career +los in this Agenety
11 get during the present -ion of
It 'ells us exactly what type of legislation we
after in the form of a eaxwr Bill.,
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by riding an other Bills
of their faeily or be flown out them
ext
in the to= of financial
of these benefits, to asattion Just a
s of service such as Yassrdpua service, service in difi`i
attention. Same of
noted tva prdems w
Vhich it felt.
able to make their careersT Were they sb
attention by task forces, The first
of careier pros,
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passed sir In this session
a fl=walsl dip upon
ituted on that and rendered a
been raised rte often at. orientation cours
as to anther women could make a eareer in CIA, as to wt wt
as to Shur they coWA ri
wo n from the !may sat 406M sod studiesd this
face, and ea :recomea vast o which. fit
protection
in positions Ot
o which I think this CIA Career Service Board of
pride in, was the work dous
ssatbs. Their motions have
a hazardous duty gawp studied the vari
Insurance Task yore
problem given to that task force vbw it started was this:
the drw of a bet to fly anyplace
to be espose& to stranae diseases, to be eqposed to dams
protect them best? I think you all hs
are All. aubl.
a or 13.ne-of-duty injury.
tug, sours actuaries from the top
The actuaries studied the actuar
on a group basis. Their report has been meted.
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ve copies w1mm you leave here today as to exactly vbat it means
ow
availab
different basest is stt life
double indemnity clause, aaatd the sece ? is nth and accident
For a very anall outlay per month you inure
:se! basic hazards which I have tti? can
in fawct.
+~
r you got a A16iir'T.i better form
e
er Which would give you the same
:s few of protection
and high controversial subject
resaation. Mr. Reynolds is going to deal with that subjeect aat
but here *0Ln vas, a subject on ich for the last three year
an a different basis
Regulation. I think it is
sties equi
on is that once y enter the sere of consideration
of the recent Government colueata that the z ConVmse
m3bject.
tn= t be White
House on, the an
Ion aut ticaally every year. It is a feature embodi,
and va consider it to be a
net on the subject of overseas rotation plannl
want it is
DD/P area,, and also from the : Office of Coax ications, know bow
to have sow Inkling of wbat your aassi t
this a matter of w
employee overseas of wbat
his en=try i I think I can confidently predi
t the most,, this Awney will
3.aeetesei sssi is, end giving him the
to i sate that he 210
t and ask for a recons xation.
the. career service program is ce erne d.
on, another subject Vb1ch
a the subject of the Fitness Report We
of this meeting that there is considerable confusion
the use of the Personnel Evalustics Report
h will shortly be issued.
special task
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of you have probsaiy seen the Not
or weer 4va.: of jMi
new item f
Officer t
0ay be selected frm outside the
college or cowlete
Ucted fron within the AVW is
e to be 1 car officer sue.
1. T ~ dmIs fel ted for
to VIV
10 or 12 s
I,
opinion at their e,
Potential executives of
been in the AVWY
one those of us
10 or 15 are sow
sting out, that ve
with J=g service brought up i s
may experience, and rAm step into the shoes or those of us
too many of the rvisors in this ASOMY we c
th the ne sa for personnel t
rather cca liceted.., but Baer esa, I bagep effici
t. That is a very : +ortsnt SAPM
its in which saw a
there were re&W three yerso=el
Ong in the ,
the supervisors, the s l Office urA the career
the fUndetueftal sad the tic M004, and a very / or nt
M# Nis ~ take over the Career ''" CVO ne ti
its activities as a mat' aid to
Is those of YOU VbO are site in t
l
We forthe
er tb&t ym S" on this egm1
ludleati chart -
" iism for Perso=i t is s lySo W Met to
Now the
ute a the
, ,ce mechanism,: YOU will note., starts from
Service Boards. When IM an Suva
a transfer, a terminuti on, an
krvi ce systen, Tt review by this i
just
wide but office-aide and n -wide considerations. The
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that y r decision is taten in caution with not
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fu l VP throuo the Live, 0
But I believe i
Which deal with
to mfr
ith not only'
Lam for
thin ;
, the as pec for t ral,. the
Vill, note
Council, Vhi
and the Fsir Be W=Mt BMd
some quirk is the et rvteory per l mwftemmt
isn't widely COMMA bwm
~ted by this Ara&le
-tions bulks er, tre .y la ge in the Central. i tel-
thc ct saying, e I em quoting easy individuals
the outsit - high 'ieia In the i erel A ,
we the finest ca of persomel svarking for the
of us to insure that this
intelli.g a system in the sold
its prob. Most of our problem am ba= probIMS MA tbG7 deal
ou
air o t Practices sus
or origin of birth
The TUr 8w
a mer of
DA therm is a very mite One
;aU will sew that illustrated on, you:r
is the enc eft review Case- Be 1CU review
s no toed to bell that this
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ca, that the Assistant motor for Pareamel s tb
or
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rete quiet basis.
: ble avid kMV of the
imU
t toz' as iews
Ing an awtj
e icier c ' rating, to an i tv
bears the
I recomumd to aU of yo that y ca
25X1 I&ti
care u11 r,, but it Ia l vparth doing or s
come A. I think
to
in
ving. I think it
a da th a 1 . you win cow that, with
's Ofllce. It to
be Is
It
he feels that
tbW* is a . ? N tb*r* a ' erY
y
re tbtUty wbieh mtde .. I kaw that every
p"' deaires to p tb frm getting out
tam, but ti e C a a .unit, '+ ch Is up
qn?asl n isi, preferably
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can" phi the Inspector Genera. tai the
taken to the attention of Congress
tic I a err- a both from the point of
also from the point of v
sory ibU ty and att t
who is
a tea, *i eue to be wed, there are
questi zzs. Obviously we east answer
be sent to theme t oriat them.
a distributed to all oqgmyeas
3atriak
A. x
810
Is mot accepted
in oww be 4 Ues for and
The Career Board
to 1e Career Board.
~.
tbome iau1mr points
to the CU04W board.
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the the VOWId be a
if there is wW adverse
nervous amt Vbet
A. M.
adverim VOPOr, OW ,
the Aim t+ l`: wby I t
ire is sther 1
that report 3 (a)
for him to defeind his position?
debate, 'Obi,
to Ot sbomu his liters Report
(b) to
both aides, a it is left an alternate Lich the suerv'
shoild or should not be WMU to the 1 v
tion that a vise superri
gwee is We vim r . O thy. .oes eligible
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career Staff, or will. there be a tht rc h scan mss?
A. 0-
ag.. is that with the
A. MR.
I t
as board..
ion Board
hzmabanimm is thereby
lea which also has to do With the
to the IndIvI&AI being rata
recognize from the
r Or IndlYMalf cUrTat1,y' .igib
it will be the future.
scrng of new
the Agency is going to live t: to
That is pretty
ves discuss this with
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Staff. K;f 0ay a
e as to what to
to their
married woman apples for permexmt stat
or motherhood,
and that she had no
to Vabuktu, or same rlee, and that she
I think we have to be pert
and look at it
aible in their
has sok :.
The career service &yet=
ration. The visors, who we career esxl e, are
an25X1
is r e q p o n s i b i a f o r r e c r u i t m e n t , asaig ut, F r c i o n , r st n-
basic functions is the OPerat
their acamad responsibilities to make sure
Nen every qWrtunity to better tbev" ves, and to
in. their chosen career plan . Therefore, the career service
augment the operations
of the career Derv ice system is to Proms
to make . every effort to insure that career
as possibly be given. Career
A yt in aLt the officer, and
., This is s question which ewe u as several
to us. It meang T the may,
o point out to you a vary basic thing, which I am sure you
tent,: that this Agency is administered by
F on Many questions can
o8nize that the fortunes of war and other acti
ire will be auather collection of questions In
e going to administer the part of the proWw
.a operate.
bed non hours of discussion of the Fit
t r kit which was wed to you, is brand new.
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this? It's because the Carew
your offices eat divisi
even though the Personnel Evaluation, wort
written the
her doses quite Vell. In too unite ea
the true capebiiit
il. It was hoped that a report
Might Permi
. Ido not ,
could be devised that vouJA suit everYbody In the
to try a difft t of report
Is, a study of it v M be
1500 of these
both in headquarters and in the field
tva1uation Report was prCNidir
tuestionualre it be deterL
to be acceptable to aWerv1 . It J
around the ad of the
the return, of the ti
questti
"Viewing offici
may decide jointly` that the =port
lc .Uesa of this decision, the er loyee
his super
' the content of the report with his visor.
us to take this Tiffs
ae've got to try to find the best one that there
and variegated occupations of this
the Fite s Reports out
icn of the ea loyee.
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of questions, as Mr. Y4r1q?&trick h&8L mentioned, and
of the r*ort
it, orbi t I am going to comb
ibilities; rather
ea loy" lies with the
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to be asuperi
be series regarded, if a uperviscr's MWOOOI't
to the Fitness
me,in, value of Civil Service status to anyone is the Agmy is that
us. tease were questions on
kte theref,
Civil Service status is required.
the Career Staff and.
? Career Staff Lp,, or lack thereof, VOUIA
,to permWMt Civil rvice sU&tus. C
th. You do not used it to be enplaVed by the ASS
and as long as you are with the Agency it has no effect 4pon your relationship with.
sanevbat osier for his to relocate in so=
t
is basic dal legislation Bch
any reduction-
in no Ve man
of the Career
t
is perfectly cable of filling that rqp=
dying the job. And
is rated, is the >a in ch himself
Civil
e into the Carew Staff is an internal admI
rights under this Act. It is anticipated that mambo
III be Stren preference In re d tic es-in-force to the ext
,itit with another. This,
by v!
of V ark aM the Smide level of the
member of the Carew Staff and the other vas
erchar etbls, because the
so
Staff
a mentor of the Career
of the ftveer Staff b" V
either careless or casual. So each for tb
, I wish to discuss
not
lity, and the other amber has
- will be Witten into those jobs that require that eOCUmbente
A W ority of Jobs in the AG=y' require mob" t
31 not be qualified for the job which :attires
is outside the Washington headquarte
jobs, are not in the sew cCat t:
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and aa-t the other is not. Za all, cas win follow
Cc fission which we c
cee u y officers and =w
I consider that an eul ogee
like to mastticn
or wife to scheduled for matremcnt Overseas,
guation of vown, beemse ve, have baa d a numbw of questions on It.
ice
tbxz&t out, a the phrase In the application., -full cmaideration W-1-11
Ilities, interests and personal clxcumta eaao'' ,, cmem
isi" Via, we knov.. which
in this program as
to approve action so that persona
questions--agalu,, with the newness Of
handle them very c1llyr.
the question, of prt ion, As has been stated, we
taa of the maa jor as cos pl is nts of
this Regulation each o f`ice
answer the estit ax
to people in
have bow a
0 die
the subject which Mr. Xirl atri .
those which were liberal, .. Them
'Oin policy, and I Will, not
is now before you L- r4icating chart - *Promotion!"
a maeaber of the Carew Staff is in a *1Udted.
be . There i
h onuoes ingh ue hail! shhi,
r certain special circumtswee because of
would laugh at that chart. Y'ou look at it carefully
U. isn't really so c
a blue line that
it 20 *8 ?
artisan
I have., you woul4 think it was single. wherever there is
an uafaa orabl a action ate.
It starts off with the re ti
-t that point there is c
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or roject
Utilizatic*i Diviisic n of the ice of Perwmel,
i1y into the individwa's person ell tile.
a a Of this kind to make
fair bra. A I
rbI
t Classification CA ww Division, * theme:
Career Service and the mri nor
a Photostat cy of it after this is over.
Utilization Division
job, such as In *j&6& tj~
made a pat of h record. I 't
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C&tlxkg chart
Vil>so t,
This ap cation is an too, of the zd"Im
the mrst discussed POW of a thing that has cae out of the
that it should be a
oo that I have lal;md, it to you, moo* ym , stu.U. if
3s asked to make a career in our
"I an also assured that on ' satisfactory caepletim
8 ch are tible, insofar as 1"-
interests.* Tug saw4res
cati i a
a legpY
individual
either side, other the those which are
is a
spgpiicaticn is the assurance by the v
ce8 of Eligibility to which will be attedhed an A;qU+ati
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on. in SOCA faith m d to the beet of its abut
b of his ability. The effective date of me ership
t is, l JW-Y 19%, for all who are eligatb a on that
by
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each menber of the
&ion before
want to ,
No one Will automatically bes co a a nember of
to a ver that Notice of Eligibility.
the may' of Staff . loyees s lad
1, 45.8 peroant are eligible for members Up
the Fiscal Year ending j%m 30;- 1955,
,ch r preae is negative or unt
ive or positive action. The blue
or decline", and the
a
they go tbx c the
to join"
, to the EWA
s Utilization Division, process
Divisionj and Training, Medical and Security 100k
back to the Cerftr Service Staff VbWe it is scheduled
vill be trod reprieved, with patmVe brief talks to
is his a he is so motif &
rejects we
office of P
-ram plans for future ;
be O fice
ores of the +gantsat
t is Perfectly
and it
Program for
]NOWMIM OF Jug= PERSOOM
1.
this a. Notice establisher, t h e F r a r m for C a r e e r DMIOPMt
Junior Fers+ el, as %prov by the CIA Carw Service
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ABM=W activities.
b. The ftoeram to designed to provide for the. systex tic
J tea. _.a a... . a -. ..
f ' at least 12 # fti-ation'-ofth-6-6-0-
4mlor
*Vwtty and potential. to t frm such Belo t
c. ta3tjon of the Prop= viii be as coatapljshed by
i3.izati n of for Officer 2raiuft (im) positit s.
81me only a steed mutw of these
available for this p atrpot e,, re tatt
be chosen.
2. :
a. . i iliy for, his Pzvgram is vested the Assi t
Director for + M ., the DIX*0t or of
Seed of the Career Service bxrlng `isdi8'tfcu Cwer the,
WNd` c fns rat '3 as evidenced by his ow"r
dealavation.
lse ioc of participants for the Program their press vii be m by a Ccmitteee for
Dov*IqPrmmt of > .ar Pesrsa . copilposed of the Assistant
Director for Psi,, x>eraiu; the Director of
sad the Bead of the spprcpr ate Career ice.
. F=MIW (Continuing): As ?,
that a have a air
a c outinuit flaw.
to past a tdia3ates to have their am wishes recorded
a do as much rotation through certain metio" or
And the ssros Vould be true,
but be would need to have a lot at /P training,
is the W/P aid,
still go through. For
eati ebart -
vs action
or the selection fingUy turns
'i es. is then tested in the "flee of Training
rve it is very
Carear Service, e, and Placement
k as"n to P3
Division, ,ntly. Be is then r
Division for the
of his eareer
i8
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t .3d' reeelves r esi S , 11 11 t by t Cittee.
s`d se1, I want. to in red?
have been made by
Coil, to i t this Vrogram', 4xd to
to
you that that Career
that whole
it to you MW
. work this thing out to the best of yo r
-ems to col them from you.
brWly mentioned the Phil:. ty of discussion b0tWeM
the cafter start . The Security
the eweer St is not classified. This an Ix4wtan,
in. In other words, the sire on
will be gent to n&r of es ial an the covert sift
document a al"sified document. Until it is fillod, in it is
at classified. , it wIU be used in the remi t of personnel by the
Division of the ice of per. .. Mwetore, I think perbeps
cm the fact, . KL patrick, that this discussion betvftu
0 join the career sty or prat, is spgtrpriate.
A. MR. AMCX. The auffWOX to that obviously
of psi : that you, participate in, on your career in
APOUM- I thy, IM are AM OR to obligate Yourself to StAY with the Agency
hat the other half, or Witter". halfo shouild certainly be giv
Ioo* forword to a asner
to go. O the other head, I would assume that is a in the
eve this greatly alters any wing tus quo-
Mr. ftird, the chart on fix' Devel+opeent c
here is a question
Is it true
A. MR. :
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OW that thecst,a
training office
Hue to another ooe? Mr.
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Yes. The anwier to
is
-- --s -a""JUR Fri ur
by ea> eri dam not always ,y off.
s-mss emensive t mlw mromrams a
an IcVm for
ve.
the l -ram
to mosw
integrity ani. - of
out an OPerattoa, that p.
1tive basis.
mulbersUp in the Career St4"
. : Yes.
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the tbxft-
the Career Staff =keS this queWi
^Belma, maybe ym c answer this
1 before an eMloyee am
t h o u g h t was alven to this
is not told
Low them has to
to an
with the ABOXY a the Agency gets acquainted vi
tours these days :Lust three ;mss, that 6m* seem a
the career.
the O%rftr staff
:xy to such things as to the
Service Schools.
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:mil, that t
4.
ere is rather a r me., but it is
table for the Cmew Sta= is also u zip
$ rejected for uueuttebility other than rmasaw
JAte & =Z*Or of young pet. o have yet r
of the wipervisor to t . Ma w1W be vas rejected
wwber of t 1m t em. This w be Particularly so in an
to give this cis to yuu, if I is it cat corrt
No, I a&'t consider that *orwec
not man by "uwdtsbiUty" those I
i . I "sum that be X?Mt such mattes as peraccality and
=8 W44 startea Inthe 1
Vie vle for
cut ve ~
of tral XuteU e
oue, of those may jobs. Io
Indicated.
It *a2mays
qualir for t3oft fop jobs it is
on their own initiative or i g
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a an Executive Mwentm7 that
the Imet year. The various acmwone&
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as r6r as Ossi , OW ti, adaptability_,
It is hex slated as we absome the use of this laventory
at otber utive inventor vin be p - . ThU
ktory is confined t
ooh got an this type of
at showed us
am
moot eat' the pwple In It,
So that iaa It a cam of
It both wife, Mr. Mdm
A. MR. . ' vi2l =doe
qVI
Hav sa
It vent to ask of Ym, +
Might
- this has Just come in
Lae* mad so M. I
,8f
I'd
of Junior Parsomell
is
is i
1. RBUMM
On, Mr,BaLrd. The amer
the Notice, butI
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It's 34.
7
MIMS. Whme an
ay vii the
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is a CIA Fitness
br
bwtdescribed,
the
of Y i i B" that bw
which
rv$r
the wig acs of the treat at State?
A. M. VMMW: WeU, I thin that the best
is
is a etion ch
a "blue , but bare it is.
att
k
tvD am by
Y-i , vwe most aarei'ul y
aid eda t t to I
of pxVIcand to eneatma
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is a v=7 iuiortmat amp and that is that these services
+ki . rte Apmy a pawamt career.
have been raI
thay have cam
to Just vbue we stood, were
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off on the right footing to begin with, a if that
I I eu to h been in aaa. point of vaaUge
encountered by other departneac>ta and ageM
c ed,. for whatever reasm,,
giant chas. The Asian "69MIZIM miss;
,. the a of f3 ility, of taking a 20 or
put into this thing is extremely ile, and that the awmt
which in
is me of the man OOb4acti
and the Zt/I sk 9apet", but avrmy, it's
caWlex seldom Considered for overseas
time a : the
.to7 . it
of asei is between the DI 3/i aril:
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this vote of ra asuraaa a to all of
is a
to the owl
will just be able to fib a
paper
it Vi11 not be a aautow
eutire Agwy viii be treated as a pool
an aspiring but
the tra d r+e weluer will bo . the Z*d in a ressexth Off tee,
ibility of the sa ?vi rs and the :
rtuuitiea are gig to everyone.
ity-. Will the
there are y questions which
to do with the relationship c
e prob. PWUWs you,
has node with his military service to serve
I'd like to try to
't believe there
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Agway without
eft that mU
thom of you x a e amour mac,
q
t . HOWWW,
will
tioa ubia bas wt
tea
far, he
t cane In
B of
or me t e r , o r t e l e p b c * t o r o r accat'Ung
those, JOVIe bum f
that
ettion mate riated.
c tbose- 1e i career
rative officers, or In
* we have t
th variatims. I woWA Me to ..
the firat am s
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eatioee, I tUZ&, shaWA be c
twing equal, in
to Ica it,
9
going tobethe'
be AGOWY? Co quent3 r, it is *LV re ble
ions, etc ? s, in u pare a ti l .
Sir.
this, beemse bwe handled this for the
more slots in the 'sous
0 be a career dyes of
to be
A. M. NAMM: at is
at
the
at the N-tiobal war
colleges the I 'f college,
? i the rf t caliber to r
I think with the m oepticm
time, I Vie. a tb *
W" ed=84149 W MW Agana;
pret employe" of CIA will bee
be rsrtcted to an elite, group?
.ous eas t probab e&
bVed, and anticipated with thet hope,.
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aAgency win b become
the size of the Carew Staff is cot
t the: Career Staff be restricted to an elite
specialties ,
peKVle with a lot of different know s and
90149 concern. MOAC It to difnault
the photographer in the wing and. -roduction
this Age=W and wbat it vould be if be vere,
I am fully in x eciative of the fact that it's bard to realize
daily chores, that them is a difference, Wt we *ertai , here
a difference, and a ve important dif
do in this Agency and those which you
comparable in other agencies. I think the difference Ilea in the motivation to Wirer
ion to your job and your devotion to duty
fete .. We do want all of those people In the Ouver Sts'
officers and fine oftlcam,, etc.,
tion and are vIll#n& and can
Staff." We vent them all.
That ads the. question period..
good intent that
and g nom.. Barry, '.
form or vbother I aem
as DepAy Director amd D.,
. I mean It quite series. if
felt, ever since I been in this business, that intern VMS a
I will till St out and see wheat boppww
in and out of it a bit. Mown as for as I IMM, I
if irate 3 is a career it seem to me we ought to bwm and ought to be ab:
sp troa to this problem, and in t,
ble for subsitting. this plan, I have
G, in i -telli a we have a pale for tantsp
particular jobs for a particular time. we mgt to
for good.
I don't kow h= I should rlal-V ssy the,,. but
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I have always found in into ligenc+e. that it
e Mtm. YOrtuuately, under the law I have rather
el by doing it. So don't gat too frightened by ay f that you be
powers with b=dlity and bimanity, but at the see ti mar I s t
sitting around the table here, and those vbo are going to
cam" to break the regulations,
ud that the a eptioms prove the rule, a that I never
ied down by rules and regulations that I could not NO* an emooption in
good of the Agency, as veil as the good of the im vidua .,
to make it clear that I am the to make the moptions,
(der) And o - that I viii get good advice frm the In ector GenexVI
Assistant Directors ham. Personally, r have never vorked with a
al nor more able crowd of men? and I have been in reasonably fast cagy
n other activities. I an proud at the teases that site here, and I amt V~
proc4 of the amcccm lie muents that we tWe been. able to put to
past yeasts. But I do feel that If we got this career service
We win be on solider VmUnd with the Congie
other 66000106,o arad you, will be on aoU4er OVAnd as yet develoap.
that the reason so many of you are here in this Agency is not because
think of us are here for theft, probably - but it is
u s e there is an Inherent f i n a t i o n in t h e w o r k , and b e c a u s e t h e r e is a great c"-
real, service for the Gaver nt, a erotic service.
in the ease of State or the military servia , I unfortunately cc&n't Udke
ible
and. I'm afraid General. Cabell,
do that, but I believe we can 61.O parable
tiefaction in your volek, and +~Ivicemasat.
be perfectly prepers just as other paeople s from other
you to be serving In other agencies. Whm you enter the'
service
slaves of
of Your in
not entering Ong that is iron clad in the sense that you became
You who are gpervisors of others - merry of you or most of YOU
ible for nesk4 g this plan a success. As Kirkpatrick and Others
of the Goverment. It is, ver, an ?a ression
a car r, and I believe and feel that it Is
ions, and as r Reynolds has brought
. nt, despite some of the diff copies with these chhaar'ts,
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can't prqpw4 select and prMate Pales
bit on a perms, basis. I 4k='t know - I amp not an expert on
furnish the proper basis for a deciasion. I know bow
as of filling o FRtnees Reporte mil`, and gemamvily
I will try to do better in the future.. it
0 be put
'I think ve've ipt to look into that. %wte there
mrks an the Fitness Wit, not that be in a
or she is a. "Magnificent aperatitor" s but samething which than
over to some other cc iex. Men they ipt over ti that other
and then tbAW thought that was the
than all b*U braes loose, or has broken loose on several off:
General,
o IM E that takes on the Mn a rd that promotes him and
him is Vbom be or she Is not fitted to be. It's a bard life. I'vs bad
mss YOU " e'ervisors give the selection boards, aad
world to put dram about
about hi # And then whet you have to show that to
dam
tent have been given good Fitness ftorts# and the perms
-- r w Amw~W VUMV V&Mrw We ZLLL UO d1X 1,.Icu ty is
Is the
point Clear to
that makes out as Fitness, FAVort that is
t is Vrong,' just
a. I've basd I ""'m Just in rent days. And I don't enjoy it.
to a any of
I d o u r g e y o u to rs i w that the sweess or failure of this
the s ervisoras handle, their Vt. We also
on Wott Ord, and the work be is doing. I'm prc ,
and a
g-
, you A&MWO rot. V
OmIrm eome dear. I really need it, and I'd lea a lot.
You can't have a career ice without tr fining.
busses will go with t us, so I
pleasing was the heat, and it night have bit
We all staVed here. Oftwml Cabell awe
and Red White stayed over
h you and talk with you about this
? I have followed it from the beg s . I boft faith
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in it. I think it is a stV forte for the Agency, and I ask your cocPeratioU sad help
in putting it into effect.
Thank you, very mwh.
M. ii 0: Thank you, Mr. des.
Time is running out on us and it is imperative that we get to the busses as
rapidly as possible. NA before We adJOIWU I want to inform you of two documents which
you will receive. one is a bra of this entire meeting, edited so that it can be
distributed to all personnel in the Agency, and clausifi d, of course, but it will give
us an exact description of what has tam place here. The other is the insure e
papers which w iU be homed to y by the attendants as you 90 out the 40w-
,Will you please turn your exit card over to the attendant at the door? And
please remember the security necessities Of such a meeting as this.
This meeting n stands adjourned.
5:20 p.m. . . .
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INSTRUCTIONS: Officer designations should be used in the "TO" column. Under each comment a line should be drawn across sheet
and each comment numbered to correspond with the number in the "TO" column. Each officer should initial (check mark insufficient)
before further routing. This Routing and Record Sheet should be returned to Registry.
Assistant Director for Personnel
L---0 z6 q Q
18 August 1951
Director of
Training
z.CPca
AD ommo
3.
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4.
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5.
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NO.
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