GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT

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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: April 10, 2000
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• Publication Date: March 6, 1980
• Content Type: REPORT

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GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY: BY: DIRECTOR, DIA
REVIEW ON: March 2000
EXTENDED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA
REASON: 2-301c (3 & 6)
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC13
1. (S) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted
in compliance with a request for information on a target of interest.
2. (S) This is the third attempt this viewer has had against this
target (see CC74 and CC87). The viewer was able to attain his usual
state of relaxed concentration. He was experiencing the symptoms of
a head cold. Ambient room noise was bad but did not disturb the
viewer because of his state of deep concentration.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol
(S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by
the viewer reference his impressions of the target site.
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ANALYST COMMENTS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC13
SG1B
1. (U) Reference: City, Plan, Stock No.
2. (SECRET/ORCON) CUING DATA: #7 was informed prior to session CCC13
that he had provided good and verifiable information during CC87. He
was informed he was slightly off target, and that he would be directed
by #66 to move from the location of his preceding imagery in an Eastward
direction in short "hops" of 1/2 mile increments. #7 was shown Sketches
#2 and #6 from session CC87 for targeting purposes and at start of this
session was provided geo coordinates SG1B
SG1B as a targeting assist
by the facilitator. It must be noted that the analyst had inadvertantly
inverted the geo coordinates at the time he provided them to the
facilitator for later targeting. This was not noticed by the analyst
until after the following session, CCC15. The concurrent employment of
prior imagery as cuing, however, apparently enabled the viewer to return
to the proper desired target area regardless.
3. (SECRET/ORCON) ANALYSIS: A map reconnaissance VBing ref A strongly
suggests #7 maintained a generally Eastward direction during the session
with sketch correlation to the following areas:
a. 'Sketches #1 and #2: vicinity horizontal POL storage, grid
square J13, ref.
b. Sketch #3: vicinity overhead crane and bank of 7 smokestacks,
grid square K13, ref.
c. Sketch #4: vicinity steam pipeline junction, grid square
L13, ref.
d. Sketch #5: vicinity POL storage facility #1, grid square
M13, ref.
e. Sketch #6: vicinity open field, curved RR tracks and POL
tanks grid square P15-Q15, ref.
4. (SECRET/ORCON) COMMENTS: Based on session CCC13 evaluation, it
was decided to reinforce imagery of Sketch #6, and maneuver in SW
direction for a distance of 1 mile to penetrate the target installation.
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TRANSCRIPT
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC13
#66: This will be a remote viewing session for March 6th,
1980. We have an on-target time of 0900 hours.
PAUSE
Relax and concentrate now. Relax. Relax.
PAUSE
Relax and focus your attention.
Focus your attention.
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On the area you have described before.
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The area you have described as a red glow. Fire and
power which is possibly a manufacturing process. The
area which you perceive is coal fired with coal conveyors.
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The area in the vicinity of
SG1B
Relax. Relax and concentrate.
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Position yourself 500 feet over this area and once
again describe it to me.
PAUSE
+03 #7: Saw tooth. A roof with a saw tooth.
#66: All right.
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#7: Adjacent Adjacent I have a big
. . . . big tank. Big storage tank. . . like shapes.
Dress right dress. Position horizontal (not audible).
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Water tower.- Wet.
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To my right. . . of tanks. As cold as it is . ? ? ?
don't think these tanks have water.
PAUSE
+05 #66: Describe your position of observation.
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#7: About five or six hundred feet up.
PAUSE
#66: Describe what is immediately below you.
#7: Oh, okay.
PAUSE
Looks . . Looks like . . . big, big rubber belt.
Like fabric (not audible).
PAUSE
It . . . . got over roller. . (not audible).
Got a metal cleat on it. All kinds of
buildings.
PAUSE
Sheet. . sheet iron.
#66: All right.
#7: Sheet iron. . . in buildings.
PAUSE
+08 Appears to be . . . multiple steamlines on a . . .
stands above ground. I'm looking down a suspension
joint.
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#66: All right. Holding your altitude. .
#7: Its . . . Its. . This is an interpretation. I know
I shouldn't but, it seems like this is a power plant.
. . . With the steam lines and . . . conveyors.
#66: Okay, from this area now, holding your altitude,
move East. Holding your altitude, move East, 1/2 mile
and describe that area to me.
+11 #7:
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Let's see. . . it looks . . . it looks . . . It looks
like a ore pile. Looks like ore pile.
#66: That's fine.
#66: Explain.
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#7: Big pile of stuff that's more grey than black. Looks
like coal pile but it is not coal. Its not coal, its
. . . . pile of . . . . could be iron ore. . . could be
limestone. I don't know.
#66: All right.
#7: Its . . . .
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Trying to figure out. . . The ore pile is one the
what would be the . . . shady side of this big building.
I see a . . a building over there that's . . looks
like its got a . . abandon tractor treads. Big metal
belts. There's some of them coiled up next to a building
and . . . . some of them just double back once.
PAUSE
But on the flat side I think its . . it looks like
tractors.
#66: All right. Very good. Maintaining your altitude
move one more 1/2 mile East.
#7: East.
#66: You will now be one mile from your original point.
East.
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#66: Describe this area to me.
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#7: Wait a minute. I'm all turned around, but . . . I
think I'm looking East and down to my right . . . .
+14 are quite a few . . . metal stacks. Metal . . . like
? ? ? Huh.
PAUSE
Looks a lot like a shady plant (not audible). With
all the . . .
PAUSE
Stacks associated with . . painting. They exhaust
the hydrocarbons high above the plant.
PAUSE
There are long buildings.
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I . . I got a flash of . . . some kind of a ? ? ? a
coal or ore unloading somewhere in this vicinity.
PAUSE
#66: All right. Maintaining your altitude. Maintaining
your altitude once again, move East. Move East.
One-half mile.
PAUSE
#7:
#66: Describe this area to me.
#7: Oh well.
PAUSE
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+19 It doesn't make sense. To the . . my left, I guess
that would be North, . . I see a shape that reminds
me of a suspension bridge shape. That's to my left.
To my right. . . it looks like glowing again. Glowing.
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+20 #7:
I get a feeling, for some reason, close up there's
a lot of pipes. . . layed out parallel like printed
circuit boards.
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Only 100 times bigger.
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Ha ha ha
PAUSE
Hal I saw a . . . I saw a . . . a face superimposed
over these pipes. At first I thought it was George
Washington. And then it looked like Stalin.
He's dead.
PAUSE
#66: Okay, maintaining your altitude, move again East.
Move East even further, another half mile. You will
now be two miles East, two miles East of your original
point. Move East. Move East and describe this area
to me.
PAUSE
#7: Damn. I'm down on the ground. Just a minute.
PAUSE
Okay. I'm back at altitude.
#66: Position yourself two miles East of your original
point. Two miles East of your original point.
PAUSE
+24 #7: What looks like a . . I see. . I see a martialing
yard from here, but . ? ?
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#66: Explain.
#7: A martialing yard.
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Yeah, its . . train station. .Making.up trains here.
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#66: All right.
#7: Drop off. Cross country.
#66: And immediately below you. Immediately below you.
#7: A big stack. Brick. Brick.
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Lots of . . .
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Parallel . . long buildings. Parallel. That would
be . . . South of the . . . stack.
#66: All right.
PAUSE
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Move again now. Move again, further East. Move
away from your original point further East one more
leg. One more half mile. Move East. 21/2 miles from
your original point and describe this area to me.
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+28 #7: Looks . . . a little more sparse to the left of me.
I thought. . . things on post, I thought it was . . .
Things on post, I thought it was a . . sub station.
PAUSE
#66: All right.
#7: Its like a white spray column shape like. Like .
. . . Hmmm. Damn.
PAUSE
Like garden spray column (not audible). White.
Can't identify what causes it.
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I think it looks like . . . looks like apartment
the building shape's to the South.
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#66: All right. Maintaining your altitude, move once
again. Move East once again. Three miles from
your original point. Move one and a half mile further
East. You are now three miles from your original
point.
+33 #7:
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Describe this area to me.
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I don't know. Oh well.
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I don't understand this. Its . . . It reminds me of
. . . of inflatable. . inflatable . . plastic enclosure.
Off to the right there. Its big and smooth. There's
all kinds of . . . all kinds of things. There's small
buildings. Piles of . . . debris.
PAUSE
It looks like a . . . big fenced in . . area with a . .
kind of ahead of me and to the left. I'm seeing . .
highly complex . . . overlapping cone shapes. I think
they've got some kind of tests. . . tests . . . some
kind of test. I see parallel linear - I'm down . .
about. . .
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20 feet off the ground right now. I saw . . .
parallel linear pattern coming from a great distance
straight towards me like, like . . the perspective
looks like with . . two close to the end of linear
pattern with a 20mm lens. Its real big. Its real
small the further away it goes.
#66: Tell me what makes you say test.
#7: Well, it looks like a big area. Spread out. And I
saw a concrete . . apron thing over there. Looked
like it might have been a little higher than the
surrounding. . . The whole thing looks like . . .
a giant bar relief. Kind of like monotone. I was
looking for vegetation. I see some big round - round
+40 ended . . . cylinder tanks over there with . . . several
. . Oh, several vertical pipes. . . right next to it.
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#7: But this was smaller tubes coming up. . vertical and
turning roughly South. It seemed to be venting some
kind of . . some kind of gas or steam.
PAUSE
Fairly high pressure because it extends from a tube
in a straight spreading linear pattern rather than
. . lazily drifting off like venting low pressure
steam. There are several. .
PAUSE
vertical tubular shapes over there in a row. About
ik times or the height is 11/2 times the diameter.
PAUSE
Looks like . . I don't know, its either a . ? ?
railroad spur loops or cables laid out down there.
PAUSE
I got a weird sensation of a . . . a high frequency
- like I'm shaking or quivering from the high frequency.
#66: Okay. I have no further questions about the target
area at this time. If there's anything that you'd
like to add, please do so now.
PAUSE
#7: There's one thing. This side of the fence, I think
I just saw . . . I don't know. Top of a flame I
guess it is. It was very short lived. It phoned out
and just quit. There is a building down there. And
that's about it.
#66: Okay. Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate
and review your imagery now before drawing. Relax and
concentrate.
+45 #7: I can't remember all of that.
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#31: Well, what I'd like first is we use some acquisition
imagery to get you on target and some words as well
which were from your preceding session. If you would
. . . your first imagery associated with this section
where storage tank shapes, dress right dress, okay,
if you would give me a quick sketch of that, we can
start with continuity in the debriefing.
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#7: I had the feeling the end of these things were rounded.
Bowed indicating they might be high pressure tanks.
#31: Okay.
#7: I never realized that until just now. I was aware
that the ends were rounded but just never realized
what it meant.
PAUSE
This is very crude. The saw tooth . . . as I was
looking to the Northeast, seemed to be kind of facing
South. And I thought this was glass in this area here.
I assume its to get light in.
#31: Okay and they're on the right side of the sketch (not
audible) the tanks.
#7: Yeah these things were on some kind of a stand and I
felt they must be 15-20 foot long at least.
#31: Uh, long, okay I see from your sketching there, then
they're laid horizontally?
#7: Yeah, they were horizontal to the ground.
#31: Okay.
#7: I see them not on the same plain as this building.
But really in real life they were. They were off
somewhere to the right.
#31: Okay. Fine.
#7: There's a lot of these.
#31: Yeah, okay. That was your acquisition imagery then.
At the start of the session. Uh. . . also before
your first movement, you had multiple steam lines
on stands above ground, okay?
#7: I remember steam lines; I don't know where they were.
I mean I don't know where I moved or not, but it would
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#31: Well, is it associated with your Sketch .1?
#7: No, I thought it was over to the left over here.
#31: Okay.
#7: I don't know whether its in the first touchdown.
I don't know where, where it was in time, but I
remember where it was relative to my view.
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And there was some kind of big building here and
this was going along the side of the building.
PAUSE
It seemed like there was a conveyor or something. .
I saw. . Yeah, there was a rubber fabric
belt. I couldn't see the whole thing - where it was
coming from but I saw very clearly inset down here
in the bottom.
#31: Number 2, okay.
#7: Of Number 2.
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I don't even know if there is a thing shaped like
this, but this is what it looked like to me. It
looked like an angle iron or . . . It was attached
to this belt. And, I don't remember if it was moving
or not, but I felt it moved in this direction. And
I saw pipes, I saw this, I thought for some reason
with the other things I saw around,. I thought we might
have some kind of a . . . power station of some kind.
Perhaps steam plant. Maybe generating steam for some
of the other buildings here.
#31: On this Sketch 2t do you have a feeling for the
diameter of the steam pipe? The size?
#7: Yeah, I'd guess about 12-14 inches.
#31: Okay. And how about the belt? Do you have a feeling
just a quick feeling for. ??
#7: Yeah, I would guess meter/meter and a half wide.
#31: Okay.
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#31: All right. Your first movement to the East, do
you have any more for that?
#7: No, I was trying to remember the first movement
to the East.
#31: Okay, well that comes after this portion of the
sketching here. In your first movement, your
touchdown, your words were "looks like ore pile -
big pile of stuff, more gray than black, but not
coal, its a pile or iron ore or limestone."
#7: It seemed to have broken flats or facets on it.
which looked different than coal.
#31: Okay.
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#7: I tried to figure out why I said ore instead of
coal, since we've been talking about coal down here
at Number 2. Or, I felt there was coal associated
with Number 2.
#31: Um hm. Okay.
#7: And then I move on and I see a pile and I said ore
and I don't know why I said that. Except it did
look different.
#31: Um hm. Okay. That's fine.
#7: And there was more than one pile. Just a heaping
pile looked like a bull dozer had been pushing on
it. . on one side. I don't know whether you want
that or not.
#31: No, we can go on. On the tape is enough for that.
#7: Just a pyramidal shape.
#31: Pyramidal shape?
#7: Yeah, roughly. The flat on one side of one of the
piles I saw.
#31: Okay. That's fine. At this point or in this area
of your touchdown, your first touchdown, your words
were "on a shady side of a big building, something
looked like abandon tractor treads, a big metal belts
coiled up next to the building, some were just double
back once others appeared to have been coiled."
#7: Yeah, it seemed like tractor treads.
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#31: Okay. All right.
#7: Could be. . Okay. It could have been a tracked
vehicle of any kind treads. But it looked . . .
#31: But associated with a vehicle, am I right?
#7: I didn't see any vehicles, all I saw was this big
metal building, grayish and I remember it . . . And
I found myself asking myself, why is it on the shadow
side. Because there was no shadows. You know.
#31: Um hm.
#7: There was no highlight sides, there were no shadows;
but yet I felt that that was on the shadow side so
I felt okay it must be maybe on a North side or Northwest
side of the building.
#31: Okay. That's fine.
#7: And did you want a picture of the treads?
#31: No. I'm just . . some of these things I'm saying
just to bring your thought through the session, okay.
#7: Yeah.
#31: But that . . .
#7: They had flats on them, you could see them each place
they bent you could see big broad flats.
#31: All right. As though they were plates linked, some-
thing like that?
#7: Yes.
#31: Okay, so now we move to your next touchdown, your
next movement of ? mile.
In this, I'd like a sketch. At this point you are
about 20 minutes into the session and your verbal
description is "the metal stacks like painting stacks
to exhaust hydrocarbons high above (not audible)".
#7: Oh, that's like a sugar plant. Holabird.
#31: Yeah. I believe you did make that - okay. High
above plant and long metal buildings.
#7: Yes.
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#7: Back in this complex there's a lot of buildings
all around this darn area. Back in here somewhere
was . . . . like a 20 inch iron pipe. A lot like
this incinerator pipe down here. I guess that's
an incinerator.
#31: Okay.
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#7: And there's a lot of stuff back in here. Just all
over, geometric patterns in here.
#31: You may want to hold that there for a second, Sketch
3. Also, the reason, also at this touchdown you said
you had a flash of coal or ore unloading in this
vicinity.
#7: Oh, I had forgotten about that.
#31: Is that sketchable on through, or possible an arrow
would suffice?
#7: It was off to the. . . off . . . I felt very confused
at this point and I started to analyze and I started
to figure out what was going on and I remembered I
really wasn't supposed to. But I got a flash of the
kind of thing I had seen along the tread shipment
point. Like it was a river or a . . . harbor. I see
big clam shells lifting coal off barges and I thought
my God , you know, I'm in the middle of a land mass
here you know, there's no ocean here. Then I realized
I eas analyzing and I backed off of it. And the only
pure image I had was the clam shell off-loading ore
or coal from a linear object would could have been
train cars, could have been barges, I didn't know.
I didn't play with it anymore.
#31: Okay, that's fine. That's to the left?
#7: That's to the left on Number 3.
#31: Okay. All right. Third movement now coming up.
At this touchdown you had, let me see, where are we.
You had a feeling that to the left and then you said
that must be to the North is shape reminded you of
a suspension bridge shape.
#7: Oh yes.
#31: To the right is glowing again. Okay. And also at
this touchdown point, you had a lot of pipes layed
out parallel like printed circuit boards only hundreds
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#7: Okay. Yes I remember that. That was all in the
same position, but . . . . The suspension bridge
shape gave me all kinds of trouble because I had
just shook the feeling about water. The previous
touchdown. I thought Oh, here we go again.
Bridge. Normally you cross water. And I looked and
I . . on the moving imagery I just couldn't focus
on any water. I tried to figure what the shape was
and I wasn't sure it was a bridge but I thought I
better report it and I still don't know what it was
but it was . . . Oh, basically there was a . . like
big columns, or pillars like with a . . . suspension
shape inbetween and I . . . wasn't comfortable with
this. I saw vertical lines appear and I said Oh, no
your making a bridge out of this. And about there,
I shook it and got away from it. I don't know what
the heck it was.
#31: Okay.
#7: I don't know whether vertical lines I invented because
it reminded me of a bridge or I am sure of the inverted
curve like that.
#31: Okay.
#7: Oh yes, there was glow off over in this direction.
And, there's some geometric shapes over here.
There was activity over here. Then, somewhere to
the right and I don't know if they're connected or
not, I saw a lot of . . parallel pipes and they were
going, some were going in different directions under
each other. . And, . . . I thought of . . I tought
of New Jersey going up . . past those cracking plants
sort of thing. I've seen that sort of thing before.
But, I thought, Hey I know what this is, this is a
cracking plant. But then I didn't feel comfortable
in saying so.
#31: What do you mean by a cracking plant?
#7: Petroleum cracking. Where you make lighter oils,
gasoline, kerosene from heavy crude.
#31: Okay.
#7: I had seen. That was the kind of pipes. So I looked
around for some of the things that I would recognize
that went with cracking plants and the image was pulsing
and moving, fading in and fading out, and I couldn't
find the things that I was looking for to say, Hey,
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this is it. This is a cracking plant. But I
remember all the lines going in different directions
- pipes with vertical tubes and things reminded me
of cracking plants I've seen. I immediately thought
of along the Jersey Turnpike there toward New York.
#31: Okay. That is on the right in Sketch 4.
#7: But the way patterns were laid out the overall feeling
of this thing was I think I said, you just said I said
it. Like a printed circuit board. When you're up
high looking down at it it was very geometric, very
linear.
#31: Okay.
#7: These things are separate you know I could not connect
them together in a total scene. I'm sorry.
#31: No. That's okay. That's fine. When you're doing
this type of work you know, you get various imagery
from different directions and so. Okay, I guess we
are now at the fourth - we move on into the fourth
touchdown. This one, you had the feeling you were
on the ground to start with and then you got yourself
back up in the air or you got your focus up - moved
up higher. A martialing yard, trains, associated at
this point, or possibly not associated, but at the
same period of reporting, a big brick stack was below
you and a parallel long buildings to the south of the
stack or what you perceived to be the south of the
stack.
#7: By the way, I can draw a heck of a lot better than
this but I don't know what's wrong with me today.
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Stack below me. Martialing yard, stack, below me,
I'm sorry.
#31: Yeah, the brick stack below and parallel long buildings.
To what you perceived to be south of the stack.
#7: (Not audible)
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#7: Its a whole batch of these. They're just long
fabrication buildings. Metal.
PAUSE
#31: That will be Sketch 5, is it. Yeah (not audible).
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#7: Five?
#31: Yeah, five for that.
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Okay, now moving on to another jump. Another move
to the East. Your impression at this touchdown
was a little more sparse to the left. The only
thing you had or I guess, things on posts, like a
sub station, you said . .
#7: Yes. It reminded me of an electrical substation.
Forward and below me somewhere. It kept coming and
going.
#31: Also at this jump, you also had, or this touchdown,
you also had associated with this point, what I
interpreted, I think you said, garden spray column,
more than one (not audible).
#7: I don't know what it was. I saw just against a gray
background, white conical shapes that reminded me of
the column spray out of a garden spray. You know that
cone white sparkly spray. I saw, I think its three
of them. Not in a row. They were horizontal. And,
one in the foreground and one high and one kind of low
behind it. I have no idea. I tried to shake it as
just pure noise but it wouldn't go away. . . so I
figured I'd dump it.
#31: Um hm. You also had apartment shapes to (not audible)
South.
#7: To the South, yes. Looked like moderate high rise.
Cement maybe.
#31: Okay. Substation (mumbling). Do I understand on
these columns you - they are horizontal or vertical?
#7: What columns?
#31: This garden feeling of spray of conical shapes.
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#7: The cone shapes were horizontal with the apex
to the left and getting bigger to the right.
#31: Okay.
#7: And they were just against a nothing background.
#31: Okay.
#7: And they appeared to sparkle or pulsate. They had
slight movement to them. And looked for all the world
like a garden spray to me.
#31: Okay. Moving to our next jump, when I look at it,
this should be our last touchdown.
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Oh yeah, a fenced in area.
#7: Large, large open area.
#31: Starting off, I'll give it to remind you now because
its, you know, it was a long session. Reminds you
of inflatable plastic enclosure to the right. Its
smooth.
#7: Okay.
#31: There are all kinds of things here, small buildings,
piles of debris, the fenced in area with a kind of
something that I did not pick up, I don't know what
the word was that you used. Big fenced in area with
kind of to the left.
#7: I don't know I remember thinking it was a some kind
of a. . some kind of test facility.
#31: Right, that's this session here. Or this section of
it here. Would you . . .
#7: Concrete pads or hard pads or stands or aprons, or.
#31: Right, going on through your notes or my notes complex
overlapping cone shapes. That's when you felt some
kind of a test. Parallel linear pattern coming in
from a great distance. Big area spread out. Concrete
apron thing. Okay.
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#7: I don't remember the cone tings. I remember the
linear.
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#31: Complex with overlapping cone shapes - well, maybe
(Not audible-both talking at once)
#7: No . . . not remember where it was.
#31: Okay, that's fine. The, if I'd be interested in
the . . your feeling of the inflatable plastic
enclosure. Okay. In association with the large
fenced in area. Which you said was to the left, I
think, as far as I recall.
Okay.
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#7: I thought it looked like a wall with a . . . plastic
inflatable roof on it. About the ratio of . . a little
wider than a loaf of bread, you know, long, ratted on
the ends, the top of it being less than a semi-sphere.
Much shallower than that. And it looked very smooth
. . . no indications of metal sheeting as a roof.
I just felt it was very smooth and which again is what
made me say like plastic. And I started to say like
the top of the Good Year blimp. Long and rounded like
the top of that. Except, I didn't think it was silver.
And I didn't say Good Year blimp because I was afraid
it would conjure up silver.
#31: Okay. Okay.
#7: That was over to the right and
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There was little roads all over this cotton picking
place and I remember there's something about . .
Oh yes, there's something about parallel linear
pattern. I took to mean, maybe railroad tracks
curving off down here. Back over to the left is
where I saw the shapes coming from a long, long
distance, it appeared and getting rather large here
in front of me. Like . . When I think of it, like
I was looking at the end or railroad rails and I
was very close to one end and the other end was just
getting smaller and smaller way away from me like
a wide angle lens. And, just like they went to
infinity, I remember.
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#7: I could barely . . . I was aware of a fence way
off in the distance. . . which was the other side
of this thing, I think. And it was, I would think
several hundred acres in here.
#31: Okay, what . . .
#7: Like it had been. . all the vegetation had been
aggravated - it just wasn't going to grow anymore.
#31: What is the circular pattern thatyou have there
in the left?
#7: That was some kind of a pad that was raised a few
feet off the ground.
#31: Okay. Also associated with this point, we had big
rounded tanks, vertical pipes, smaller tubes coming
up and turning to what you perceived to be south.
#7: Yes.
#31: Emitting gas or steam high pressure with. . and you
could tell that because it had a straight spreading
linear pattern instead of (not audible).
#7: Somewherevery close to this is little pipes that come
up and they were three or four of them. They had a
little nozzle on the end of them. They were - it was
pressure coming from them. And they were to the right
of this big tank here.
#31: Okay.
#7: I didn't know what to make of that. And it was,
yeah, it was kind of high pressure (not audible) or
spraying to the right.
#31:
#7:
#31:
Okay. Good.
Rather than just a lazy drift.
On the far side of the open area within
audible - both talking at once).
#7: These were pipes or tubes or something.
near this big tank like.
#31: Very good. And . . click click click.
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#31: Several vertical tubes shapes in a row. Height
being approximately lk times their diameter.
#7: Oh, yes, I had forgotten those. Those to the
right were somewhere in the right of this thing.
I'm not sure exactly position relative to the fence
but . . . Did I say how big these things were?
#31: No, you. . the proportions were height ik times
diameter on my notes.
#7: Uh huh.
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There were several of them in a row and its like
if you buried POL drums a third of their length into
the ground, except these things I gathered were 15
or 20 feet across in diameter. Then they were off
in the distance and kind of to the right.
#31: Okay. And your last or second, your last two things
you may already have them on there. You had a railroad
spur, loops or cable laid out on the ground. Is that
what you're working on there?
. #7: Its this thing right here.
#31: Okay.
#7: There was more than one of those, I don't know how
they were laid out relative to each other.
#31: Okay.
#7: But I saw them in there. But there was a lot of
I guess trucks or something. . . . had been all
over the place and just beat the hell out of the land-
scape. Pretty baren.
#31: And just when you were asked if there was anything
to add, this side of the fence a short puff of smoke
from a building.
#7: Yes.
#31: Oh, okay, in the very foreground.
#7: Down. . Down in this area here I could . . and that
was from a different angle so that's not going to
work out. But I saw the end of two buildings and
there was a. . . My gosh, I'm sure getting a lot of
these conical shapes, aren't I?
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#7: Coming out of this building was just a big burst
of flame and it just quit. You know, just . .
#31: Okay. I wasn't sure which side of the. . . which
where in relation to the fence.
#7: I thought it was below me and I thought it was this
side of the fence. I had drifted over - I don't know.
I have no idea.
#31: Okay.
#7: That was it, wasn't it.
#31: Oh, right. That's . . that's the extent of my notes
through the session. Have you . . . Well, have you
any comments to make or any feel or flavor
or anything you'd like to add to this (not audible)?
#7: This whole thing looked so fractured, I don't see
how you can get anything out of it.
I didn't have time to look at any of them and make
sense out of any of them. I get the perspective -
if you can make heads or tails out of them I feel
real good about it, but not to me.
#31: Well, I certainly think I can. How did you feel about
your session?
#7: I felt like I was very deep.
#31: Okay. I was curious. I have a note here. No sooner
than he started to talk it seemed then the people
at the other end of the airconditioning duct fired up
their drill and . .
#7: I didn't hear them.
#31: That's good. Well fine. I don't have any more.
Thank you very much.
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