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Approved For Release 2003/09/10 :CIA-RDP96-007888000400420001-2 !,RET INSCOr~ GRILL FLAME PROGRAM Approved For Release 2003/09/10 :CIA-RDP96-0078 01'-2~ /l 1~Y11~' ' ' _ ~ ` w~ CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI~iSH DATED: 05163OZJUL78 NOT RE1~ ~3L O~~ NATIONALS REUIEW ON: ~co? Approved For Release 200 0 ? C - REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-1~2 SG1 1. (S~NOTURN) This report documents a remote viewi session conducted in A compliance with a request for information an 2. (S~NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target. are provided as raw intelligence datay and, as such have not been subjected to any inter- mediate analysisy evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requester. 3. (S~NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocols AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S)~ undated. ~.. (S~NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor- mation provided the remote viewer. At TAB C are control analy~~~s questions asked during the session. NOT RELASI~,BL~ T E-INATIONALS Approved For Release 2003/09/10: CIA-RDP96-007888000400420001-2 Approved For Release 2003/09/10: CIA-RDP96-007888000400420001-2 RET //66 +02 ~F~08: ~~66 ~~ 08 ~~66 +06 ~k08: REMOTE VIEWING,(RU) 5ES5ION D-42 This will be a remote viewing session for 1100 hours, 11 September 1980. Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate. Focus your attention on your target. Focus our attention on your target. Focus your attention on There's a reoccuring impression ....................... .. Something like a departure the _upper....portion of the country...and there...jagged little, uh....jagged little...points of landing, and a (mumbling) big ocean protected area... Describe your position of observation. Okay... From an overview...there's alignment to second (mumbling)...could be midway, the upper half and to-the right. Stand on the ground with) land describe your immediate surroun ings. Desolate, uh...desoiate valleys in between high hills and mountains... Uh.......there's a...big convoy of vehicles.. It's as if they had this initial point that I described. One, to one area and a, coming back from east to west in a convoy... 466: Describe the vehicles in the convoy. ~~0$: Lot of, uh...they?re not open vehicles, they're kind of closed vehicles, with uh...with sheltered sides, personnel carriers with sheltered sides...There?s a cam- ouflage paint and all that stuff...that's uh......,. +08 ~k66: Describe the size of the convoy. PAUSE Approved For Release 20 16 007888000400420001-2 Approved For Release 2003/09/1~w:e, P - 000400420001-2 408: It's very 1ong .............I would think it?s suppesed to be broken in .two, but there's just one long string.......I don't know.........-.It's miles,. it's uh... Three, four miles, three miles, four miles, something like that. There's pendent if you want it...over the, uh background, yellow border...a kind of a wheel in the middle, middle of the wheel. And ther.e's...something... intersecting the, the wheel from top to bottom. ~~66: Describe your position of observation as you look at this convoy. ~~08: It?s like. I'm on a left side on a hill. I' stretches so far (mumbling) that I can't-see the beginning or the ending of-the line. And some very hilly, dry...dry, rough country. #66: Ask yourself what is the prominent geographic feature that I may use to locate this unit. .Ask yourself what is the prominent geographic feature that T may use to locate this unit. ~~08: The only way you can dc~ it is, uh..........there is the... would be like., uh...journeying from west to east in the sourthern portion. of a country, going towards the, and into the border of another country. Seems similar to the other place I?ve seen before, I guess, and this is the same portion. And if I were to draw...a grid square around "t".-..the border would be, uh, to the left of this, almost to the left portion of the square, from,uh....The:left cor- ner of the top of the square, ..just a small. distance to. the bottom of the right of the square... Beyond the, uh, be- yond the geographical border once that is crossed to the right of .the new place of entry there's a -lot of green... green tree and smoke's there (mumbling)'s as if they were moving from ~ and going east, that's what it looked like. x-16 ~~66: All right. Focus on the convoy now, and describe in detail the first uehicles in the. convoy. ~~08: Okay...,...It seems to change,.. the principle vehicles there is a APC on tracks and. then you get impression of smaller vehicles...darting from right to left as if they were scout- ing or something, I think. ~~66: And further back in the convoy? ~~08: It's principally....double-wheeled APC's, 'cause if you look at 'em from the side there's the front wheel and then you see more plain,,uh, two other the rear. There...track vehicles too, but T think the predominant one with the wheel of APCs. Approved For Release 20 07888000400420001-2 Approved For Release 2003/09/1 ~4-X8000400420001-2 ~~0$: And there?s a predominance of trucks...and...there-would be the:portion carries the fire.... ~~66; What makes you say this? ~~08: Trucks with, uh....trucks withlaunching, trucks with anten- nas.....I really feel like...direction of the fire control would be more in that portion. +21 ~~66 c What type of fire? ~~08: Rocketso ..............there's some, uh, along that trailer trucks too ................they seem to be carrying...a good size self propel stuff... ~~66: b~hat is it these long bed trailers are carrying? ~F08: Longer size self propel. rackets.......... ~~66: Describe the vehicles to me that hold these.... 408: Proportionately speaking...they're snubnosed, heavy wheel tractors. ~k66: I didn.'t understand you. ~~08: snubnosed heavy wheel tractors. ~~66: All right........... 408: .Something about a circle and a triangle in it too....supposed to be meaningful. And then.... ~~66: Tell me more about this. ~~08: The snout on the rocket is overhangs almost-over the cab, .it's weird, as if the front of the rocket were going toward the front of the truck...exceeding the trailor by a few feet and hanging over the cab..... 466: Albright. I'd like to change your focus now when you're ready... ~'~08: Go ahead. ~k66: All right. Expand our awareness now and your consciousness, and describe for me Describe for me the unit's military missa.on. S G1 ~,~08: They really should be mechanized infantry outfit, but for A some reason it's been a-fire support outfit. That's just impressions. 3 Approved For Release 2003/09/10.,;_:04``=;~g9~-007888000400420001-2 Approved For Release 2003/1~~T~t- -Op788R000400420001-2 ~k66: Who does this unit support? ~~0$: It?s as if they just finished supporting somebody. +30 ~~66: Who was it they just finished supporting? PAUSE ~'F~08: When you said that...I got a very, quick impression of black infantrymen in camouflage attire.... ~~66: All right. .Ask yourself, is related to the unit you looked at last wee . ~~08: I.t, it all is very, very similar except for the last thing that you asked me about who are supporting. ~~66: All right. ~/~08: And the black infantrymen came up...very close parallel from a geographic .point of view from many points of view, except far your last query. ~~66: All right..... You said that the sim-, there is a similarity geographically between the unit you looked at today and the unit of last week. ~`k08 : Mm-hmm . ~~66: Yet you find an anomoly with the black infantrymen. ~~08: Mm-hmm. ~~66: Explain that to me please, ~~08: For some reason there should be no contradiction, this..... ......okay.. The one thing is done...that is the support that they were engaged in. I can'.t explain the black...infan- trymen except to say that uniforms worn by the black infan- trymen are all very new, very crisp. It's as if, uh, if they hadn't...any use,. like-they hadn't been in action yet, like they hadn't, uh, been exposed to the action that is compared to the units that we're supported by what the num- ber thing is...they were quite raggled, beraggled. They've shown the wear and tear of action.- The black infantrymen, it?s as if they hadn't;just issued (mumbling) fatigues and stuff. ~~66: Okay. You feel then that with their role here? ~i~08: Just the impression I get. Approved For Release 200 ~:_ Approved For Release 2003/09/10: CIA-RDP96-X000400420001-2 ~~66: All right. I have no further questions concerning the tar- get, but I'd .like you at this time to comment as you see fit, on the impressions you had. 408: Yeah, the black infantrymen are waiting for the...presence, if not the active support of that unit. That's about all I can tell you. ~~66: How- you said they are waiting for? 108: Yeah, the presence of (mumbling) not an...waiting for the presence of the unit, but the unit?s not gonna. be engaged in combat activity. It's a sort of a reassuring thing. ~~66: This is something in the future, they have no- ~k08: Yeah, yeah, yeah. ~~66: All right. Anything else to add? ~'~08: No.: No. #66: Okay. Let's prepare to draw then, those impressions that you have had.. ~~08: All right. ~~66: So I'd, really would like you to draw some of the, uh, vehicles you saw in this convoy. So if you'll start with the, uh, one that impressed ypu the:..most. ~~08: Yeah, the one that impressed me the most was the big, big trailer. Okay? And hooked on to this, let's.see...trailer rear. I. made it so-big it won't even fit. now. Back here there are two wheels. Something like this. This is not, .certainly won't be dark. And the nose on those things was something like this. This was much s-, shorter,. okay? Longer, shatter, but the cab was`very- ~~66: Was there just one rocket on each, uh, thing? ~~08: .Yeah, that's all. There mighty been more...that's, that's about what that thing looked like, more or.less........... tike a dirt bike tire. Okay? ~~66 : Okay . ~~08: Then the personnel carriers were high sided vehicles. Okay. They weren't like apen trucks or anything, you could barely see the top of their heads. And these things. ~~66: Are you saying then-the personnel carriers did have troops in them? ~""`` .. Approved For Release 2003%09~`ib, 607888000400420001-2 t.... Approved For Release 2003/09~~ 8000400420001-2 ~~08: Yeah. ~~66 : Okay . ~~08: Yeah............ ... .Whatever. I?m drawing the truck, but it's .not. really a?truck. Anyway, they can be recognized by the fact they had one wheal here,-and two wheels here. But it wasn't a truck,. it was...kind of covered vehicle. ~~66: And they're not tracked? ~~08: Some of 'em were tracked, but there were more wheel than they were. tracks. #66: Okay. ~~08: I don't know....something like that... ~~66: Okay....So we have one impressive, uh, rocket type trailer. We have a, uh, personnel carrier here. And what other vehicles did you see? Da you recall? ~~08: Just the threaded APC's... Dkay? This is the rear, this is the side, these are where the.guys are...something like that ...whatever, a wheel. ~~66: Okay. ~~08: Threads. ~~66: Okay, that'll be number three then, for a, uh... ~F08: Let me see with tracks. ~~66: Okay, and, uh, were there any other weapons vehicles that you saw? Other than the one you?ve drawn. ~~08: Oh, yeah, yeah, they were trucks, what I thought were some- thing as this, except that it had, uh, well there were vehicles., where there were...I think they on threads, and what :you: had .was like launching-.pads of, of .small rackets which I described. in the other sessions. Okay, and. right here is a...a threaded vehicles.,-like this... The big impression is that you have slabs of, of rockets,-okay, one slab of rockets taking off. It's not very well done but it's all I can do. ~k6d: These are tracked? ~,~08: Yeah, most of 'em. Tracks. 166: So in number four then we have a tracked, uh, rocket launcher of some kind, with many rockets on it? #D8: Yeah. Approved For Release 2 Approved For Release 2003/09/10 :~Ct-~ 0 8000400420001-2 ~~66: .Okay. ~'~08: This. as. if, you know, in the second World War where you had these huge tiers of rockets just being launched. That's the. impression that I got on that one. ~~66: Okay. ~~08: Which I've had before. X666: Anything-else then? I, when I asked you about geographic location you had a- X608: Oh, yeah, yeah. 9666: -you pretty .much gat a map rather than a prominent rock or anything. 9608: Yeah, I don't think you could've, you could've...I was look- ing.for something. There was something there. The only impression that I got........lower left portion. I'll put that number five. And here is, uh...they were traveling in .this direction, and all of this is hilly. and down here is valleys, and I couldn`t-~ 9666: Write-hills and valleys. 908: Okay. 9666:. Label this as a border or something. 9608: Yeah. And once you crossed into here, which appeared to be a border, then the thing that I was trying to get to you is hilly foliage here, into another country... 9666: -Okay, now you've drawn this little grid square on five, then, with north being the top of the page? 9608: Right. Yes. Hopefully. 9666: Okay. So they were traveling then from- 9608: East, uh,_ yeah. East to west. 9666: From east going west and with plans to cross this border here. 9608: Yeah. 9666: Into another country. Okay. 9608 : Okay . 9666: Yeah. Approved For Release 2003/09/1.0:: CIS-I~f~P900788R000400420001-2 Approved For Release 20 07888000400420001-2 ~~08: And this country came to the water somehow. 466: Okay . ~~0$: Okay, the eastern portion of this country, let me draw it here., was, this was water. ~k66: Okay.. . ~~08: I'll label that eastern border. ~k66: Okay. Eastern on the water- 408: Yeah.- ~~66: -and then they crossed this- ~f~08: Yeah. ~k66: Okay. ~~08: Yeah. They were more around here someplace. ~~66 : Okay . ,~~08: And going in that direction. ~~66: Now I'd like to ask a couple questions about these- at one point here you said, when I asked you about their support role you said, well, they're finished, and then you had some imagery. of some black infantrymen. ~'~08: Yeah. ~~66: And then later on you said. that actually these black infan- trymen were wa'ting for this unit. ~~66: So I'm confused about your impression of being finished, and then your separate impression of these black infantrymen waiting. ~'~08: So was I confused, because I didn't know if it was...was present .that they were supporting, present, uh, then they .kept flashing back. Then I got the impression that they were someplace-else waiting for the arrival of the unit, as opposed to the people that-they had just supported, which you brought back on, wF~ich were, uh...which were, which had. all evidence of having been in a skirmish or something like that... ~~66: I see. So you saw two sets of people. Approved For Release 20'0 - = 07888000400420001-2 Approved For Release 2003/~9~'~:",~f~88R000400420001-2 ~'~08: Yes. , ~~66: So people that had-been through a skirmish- ~~08: Yeah. ~'F~66: And the people, the newer unit. ~k08: The new, whoever was waiting for 'em was, was. wearing new crisp, camouflage uniforms, as if they had just been set up. ~~66: Okay. ~~08: Okay. And they were waiting- got .the impression, very distinct impression that they were waiting-.for the presence of the unit, that there-was no indication that the unit was going to go into action as soon as soon as it arrived where it was going in support. of this black infantry unit. ~~66: Okay. ~f08: It was just a presence. ~~66 : Okay . ~~08: Logistical, not a logistical support, just a support by it's mere presence. ~~66: I see. You didn't get the fee3ing that they would be actively engaged in- ~~08: No. ~~66: Shooting these rockets and fire power and- ~~08: No, no. No. ~~66: Only their presence was required. X608: Just their presence. Their future presence. X666: Okay. Anything else? X608 : No . X666: Okay. That?11 do it-then. 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