SUMMARY REMOTE VIEWING SESSION CI

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GRILL FLAME
PROJECT
CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
ON: 31 Jul 99
EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
REASON: 2-301-C (3) (6)
GRILL FLAME
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION C 1
1. (S) This report provides documentation of a remote view-
ing session conducted for training purposes to enhance a
remote viewer's demonstrated ability.
2. (S) The viewer appeared tense and frustrated during the
first 30 minutes of the session. He answered many of the
facilitator's directions with long deep sighs or exhaled deeply
between tense drawn lips as if he were trying very hard and
becoming frustrated with failure. Dialogue was weak and
sporadic but dominated by an impression of an ICBM site some-
where in the Soviet Union. The viewer was directed to enter
the largest of two bunkers at about 1030. From that point on
the description of his surroundings was more clear, detailed
and abundant. The viewer seemed apprehensive about the site
and indicated there was a possibility that he was fabricating
the whole thing, that the site was similar to some he had
SG1B The viewer's previously observed state
ot relaxed concen ra ion was not observed today. This was
probably due to the higher than normal noise level outside the
room.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in
the document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote
Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings
made by the viewer reference his impressions of the target site.
At TAB B is a map and description of the target site.
SG1 B
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION C 1
#11: This will be a remote viewing session (edited
for security).
#36: #14, the time is now 10 o'clock. In a moment
I want you to view a portion of the Earth's
surface that will be represented by some coordin-
ates I will provide you. After you have viewed
it and examined it thoroughly, I want you to tell
me about it and then afterwards I want you to
draw what you have seen.
SG1 B
I'll give it to you again. I want you to look
at this point on the Earth; examine it thoroughly
and tell me about it. The coordinates are:
SG1 B
PAUSE
Relax and view that area for me.
PAUSE
Do you see the target, #14?
PAUSE
#14: I'm not getting a whole lot of imagery. I did
have several impressions though. Now, there it
is again.
#36: Describe for me some of your impressions; some
of your feelings.
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+08 #14: The one I see over and over from my first
perspective there was a . . what appeared to be
a pointed object coming out of a hole in the
ground; such as a missile coming out of an
underground silo. Unusual though. . . Missile
was very pointed. If I turned it sideways, it
would look like the cone coming out of the nose
of a MIG-21.
PAUSE
#36: That's very good. Tell me more about it.
PAUSE
Go on the other side and look back at it and
tell me what you see.
+10 #14: Oooo! I'm not back to the images I was describing.
I'm getting this silhouette of a person. Very
unusual.
PAUSE
#36: Is the person part of the scene?
PAUSE
Where is that person?
PAUSE
#14, I want you to go back to the area where
you saw the pointed object sticking up from a
hole in the ground. Then go up the elevation
and then look at the entire scene.
#14: It might take me a while to get it back. I'll
. . . I'll let you know if and when I can get
there.
I don't seem to be getting anywhere. I think
the best thing to do is to erase everything and
start over again.
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#36: Go up to altitude and make an area search as
you often do.
PAUSE
I think that may help you.
PAUSE
+20 #14: I'm not sure if I'm manufacturing all this or
not, but I just keep constantly seeing this huge
ballistic type missile coming out of an opening,
out of a tube. It seemed to be in the ground.
I even had a feeling for a very heavy lid which
rolls over this silo or tube that's in the ground.
I had a feeling associated with this complex was
a very large earth covered bunker type thing.
Perhaps partly underground, maybe not. And, the
only thing thatkept popping into my head is
Command and Control. Command and Control type
bunker. I'm not sure exactly where I am, but I
feel or I have the impression that I'm in the
Soviet Union. That may or may not be accurate.
I really don't have a feeling for where I am.
But I lean more towards Soviet Union than anything
else. Just as a hunch.
I just keep seeing these profusion of large
missiles. They're not surface-to-air type missiles
or anything; they're the large ICBM type or some-
thing like that.
#36: #14, I want you to go up about 5,000 feet and
look at the entire area and describe any unique
features you see.
This is very easy for you. Go up to 5,000 feet
and describe the unique features of this area.
PAUSE
What do you see, #14?
PAUSE
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+26 #14: I'm having a very difficult time. The noise
out there is starting to get to me. The only
additional thing I did see from any altitude; it was
only a few thousand feet. The first bunker I
described was almost square, very large, but square.
I just saw another one that was extremely large or
high. It was earth covered. It wasn't square,
it was long androunded on top. Like a huge missile
storage bunker for ICBM type missiles. Like I
say, I man be manufacturing all this stuff.
#36: Don't analyze. Tell me what you see.
#14: Yeah. I'm trying not to. The thing that bothers
me is that all this stuff is fitting together so
nicely. That's what worries me about the analytical
part.
#36: It would fit normal conditions that are familiar
to you. I want you to go into the first bunker
you saw. Not the second one, not the large one,
but the first one you saw. Go inside. Tell me
what you see.
+30 #14: Hmmm. I'm in a . . some type of corridor or
hallway or something. There's pipes or conduit
or something on the walls up higher; up near the
ceiling or whatever.
#36: Are they insulated?
#14: Ummm. . . .
#36: Or plain? Describe the pipes.
PAUSE
#14: It appeared to be large, smooth, metallic, light
conduit.
#36: Very good. Continue down the hall, tell me what
you see.
+32 #14: Seem to be . . in a room. There's a glass door
and some large glass windows there. The room is
full of the electronic equipment. Looks a lot
like our computer equipment or whatever, but this
stuff is just huge. Very bulky.
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The. . . There's two sets of equipment or
whatever and they're. . in the center of this
room or the room is specifically for this
equipment.
I have a feeling there's. . two console type
things where somebody sits and works. And, who-
ever sits there and works there would be sitting
back-to-back. Its difficult to explain. It
would be easier to draw.
#36: You're doing fine.
PAUSE
By huge electronics, do you mean huge cabinets
or could you describe that further.
#14: All I just see is the huge bank of electronic
equipment. One on each side. Where if I was in
the center of the room there would be one on each
side of me but this is located in the center of
this big room. There's other stuff. . There's a
space between this equipment and whatever is going
on in the rest of the room.
But, these two banks of equipment are just very
large and very bulky. That's the only way I can
describe it.
#36: Is it operational now?
PAUSE
#14: I don't know. I don't know.
#36: Do you see any personnel around?
#14: Well, I had the feeling of people in the. room,
but I . . You know, where do I draw the line.
I may have saw the stuff, then manufactured the
people to go with it.
+35 But, if I'd have to. . Well, on a hunch, I'd
say its active. There would be people there.
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I don't get a feeling for a lot of people.
Kind of like the minimum amount to make this
place operational. Two people. Maybe three
people out of this whole. . this large room.
I have a feeling that there's a lot of other
electronic equipment all along. . all over
this room along the walls and all that stuff
but these two huge banks of equipment in the
center of the room seem to be the focal point.
#36: I want you to look around the room very carefully
and see if there are any other doors. Other than
the one that leads to the hallway you talked about.
#14: I have the feeling that there's another door off
to my left. But I feel I've already checked it
out. Its either a storeroom or there's more
electronic equipment there. I'm not sure which.
#36: Did you go in that room?
+36 #14: Kind of. Half in and half out. I feel there's
more electronic equipment there.
You know, lots of wires. . it reminded me of
what I would imagine a huge telephone company
switching branch would look like. Just tons of
wire harnesses and wires and things like that.
I'm outside of that facility now. And, maybe I'm
not. I don't know. But right now, I'm looking
down. . the only thing I can describe, its a
silo and looking at the nose of a missile.
#36: You are looking into the silo and see the nose
of a missile?
#14: I seem to be standing on the top edge looking
down.
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You know, its funny. When I saw some of these
things earlier blasting off on the silo . . .
there were several instances, I'm not sure, but
I almost had the feel for a liquid fuel. You
know, how its streaming out of the overflow areas
or whatever, this liquid fuel. Liquid fuel??
#36: You're describing vapors?
+38 #14: Yeah. I had that impression several times and
associate it with liquid fuel. I think that's
rather primitive though for an ICBM, a liquid
fuel, isn't it?
#36: I don't know. Just tell me what you see and
we'll find out later.
I understand you were talking about vapors that
are often seen with refueling liquid fuel?
#14: Yeah. That's what. . liquid fuel. Liquid fuel.
#36: I'd like you to go down the silo (not audible)
and tell me what you see.
#14: Well, right now I'm floating directly above the
nose of that missile and I don't see anything but
a long, long way down.
PAUSE
#36: Does the depth of that silo make you uneasy?
PAUSE
#14: Not really.
#36: If it does, don't go down. Just tell me what
you see.
#14: No, it doesn't make me uneasy, its just that
I have a feeling that there's not much down
there. You know, the missile is there and.
you know, nothing else but garbage around.
#36: Well, since you're up above the facility. . . .
#14: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Wait a second!
#36: Okay, what'd you get?
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#14: Ha ha ha. When you said, since you're up above,
I was. . .
+40 #14: Ha ha, I now appear to be in the silo looking
out.
Oh, that was just a flash. But I was in. The
hole was overhead. I was down in the silo.
#14: I don't know where I am right now.
#36: All right, #14, you've had a very good session.
Do you want to look around the area again before
we draw some of those things you've seen? Take
one more look around the area.
#14: Okay, let me see if I can't just float up and
look around.
+48 I'd better start drawing some of this stuff
while I still have a handle on it.
PAUSE
#36: Would you like to have some light?
#14: No. That's fine.
PAUSE
Page 1, Item A.
#36: Is that the first cone you saw in the hole in
the ground?
#14: Right. Like I said, this one I saw, if you turn
it sideways it would be like looking at the nose
of a MIG-21.
#36: I remember that description. I see what you mean.
It does look like that.
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#14: Boy, that's a neat one. Next impression I had
was that "B". I still had this sharp pointed
column coming out of the hole but there was this
huge thick lid next to this hole.
PAUSE
436: That is labeled "B".
#14: Right.
#36: While you were describing the heavy lid, you
also . . .
#14: I fyou want to, you can throw a little bit
more light on.
PAUSE
Yeah, that's good.
#36: How's that?
#14: Good. Fine.
#36: At the time you were describing this, you mentioned
a large bunker and you used the words Command and
Control.
#14: There were other things before that, weren't there?
#36: I believe the only thing you mentioned before
that was a silhouette of a man.
#14: You know, I had . . . I saw . . I'm seeing it
right now. Silhouette of a man. I wonder if
that couldn't be symbolic for a shape instead of
buildings or something. I don't know.
The reason I say that is because when I was
studying strategic missiles I used to identify
a certain support facility by the shape; the way
the buildings were put together which was a key
identification feature. And I used to call this
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my little man all the time because it almost
looked like a man. There may be some symbology
towards that.
#36: Does that fit the kind of specific (not audible).
#14: I don't know but it seems to fit this whole thing.
If I was just to draw the man here it would be
nothing. So let me, In Item C, . . I'm trying
. . I believe the buildings were shaped like this.
#36: I see why you use that particular cueing device
for your memory.
#14: Yeah. Well, let's go on to the next one. The
bunker.
Then, of course, I saw it from several angles.
It had a square top.
#36: You said square, flat top that you could see
through.
#14: Right.
#36: You did mention that it was earth covered.
#14: Yeah. But even earth covered, the top was flat.
#36: I just wanted to be sure I was understanding
what you were saying. You could see a square
flat shape.
#14: Um hm. Right.
PAUSE
This is kind of a . . at "D", kind of oblique
. . not too good I guess.
PAUSE
"E" is more of a top view.
#36: Is that the second bunker?
#14: No, that's. . . .
#36: Another view of the same one.
#14: Right.
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#36: Could you label those B Prime and B 1 and B 2,
to we know that they are the same one - different
views.
#36: That's good.
#14: Another bunker shape that I had, and I also saw
that from several angles. I'll draw the first
one. It was odd, it was kind of like this. I'm
going to make it look long. As if I'm looking up.
#36: You say you flew along in this direction like
a loaf of bread?
#14: Yeah. Why is it so difficult to draw?
PAUSE
E 1 is kind of a front view, a like view. Not
very good.
#36: Its a good drawing; I can see it.
#14: I'll draw an aerial perspective. . from where
I was. I'm not sure whether it had an entrance
on each end. It could have had.
PAUSE
Oh, that's not too well either.
PAUSE
That looks more like it, I guess.
PAUSE
#36: Is that part of your bunker or is that E-3?
#14: No, that's E-3. Its trying to make a better
drawing of 2.
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#36: All right, #14, the next thing that you described
in clarity was being in a long hallway with large
metallic pipes up high.
#14: Well, at first I went through the whole thing.
First I approached this bunker and there was a
small doorway there or whatever. I seemed to be
inside, but this. . this would be Page 2, F-1.
#14: There appeared to be a small opening here, a
doorway.
#36: But that opening is of size for a human to get
into.
#14: That's where I wnet in. Yeah, its . .
#36: Very large doorway.
#14: Ahhh. . . at 2, I moved closer until all I saw
was this opening. It was. . . I don't know if
there's a . . . It was large enough for two doors
to be in there.
#36: Um hm. I can see from your heights or width ratio
that it could take two normal size doors.
#14: That was kind of set back, recessed.
I decided not to try to open the door and go in
through the usual means. The next thing I remember
in F-3 was this hallway.
There appeared to be this, large pipes of conduit.
It was attached to the wall and they were various
sizes. There was a large one, there were several
small. . this was dark down here. I had the feeling
of. . there were several doorways or whatever down
here.
There didn't seem to be any doorway on my right
or access way.
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#36: Do those windows lead to the outside or to
another area?
#14: No. No. It seemed it was either a hallway
outside of there or it was all internal.
#36: Um hm. Are you suggesting that those windows
were used to view inside the room or outside the
room?
#14: I don't know. Its hard to say.
#36: Don't worry about it, go ahead.
#14: And in relation to this. . this is really not
a fair representation.
PAUSE
#36: What is that #14?
#14: This is a chair here. Whre somebody would sit
or whatever.
#36: Okay. I see what you mean.
#14: Yeah. And there's . . just all kinds of gadgets
and stuff like that. And, they were just huge
and bulky. Okay, we'ge got one here. And, we've
got one over here. This is another console here.
And there'd be another chair here. And, as I
described, these two operators or whatever, would
be sitting back-to-back. And that's. . and looking
inbetween them, if you were standing back, you
would see the doorway and these two window type
things.
PAUSE
#36: Label that "G".
#14: I've got F-4.
#36: Oh, F?
#14: Yeah. These are all related to . . .
#36: Okay. All right.
#14: And . . .
#36: Your "F" which is hallway. Okay, same complex.
Okay.
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#14: Well, I can label this "G". Well.
#36: It doesn't matter.
#14: As long as its labeled, I guess.
#36: It doesn't matter.
PAUSE
#14: Let me come up with an F-5 here.
PAUSE
I'll draw an aerial type.
PAUSE
#36: That's the consoles.
#14: Right. Over here is the door. Window. I had
a feeling that all along the outer edge of this
room, of course, it was broken up in different
areas.
#36: Electrons.
#14: Yeah.
#36: Captives, whatever.
#14: Electronic equipment. I don't know why anybody
would want to put something together like that
but . . .
#36: Do you know where the other door was?
#14: Yeah. I'll get to it. The other door was over
here. And there was another, Oh God, I don't know
how far this room went back, it was another large
room, I'll put it back at least to here. And back
in here was just a profusion. Electrical wiring.
This was all inside this bunker. The square bunker.
#36: Later you were seeing silo's again. Was that
the same silo that you looked at earlier.
#14: Well, I had a much better view. I'll label this
"G". This time, I was looking at a round nosed
missile and I was standing up above looking down.
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#14: I'm going to have to draw one thing or the
other. I'll draw the missile solid. It will
standout against the rest of it.
PAUSE
I don't know why I drew it that way.
PAUSE
Anyhow, I was standing on the edge, looking down.
Call that G-1, G-2.
#36: That;s when you (not audible) overhead.
#14: Right. Oh, don't ask me how I draw some of these.
And there appeared to be some type of pipes or
whatever alongside the walls at different places.
I didn't. . . It was difficult to pay a whole lot
of attention to it.
PAUSE
But it was dark way down in the recesses.
PAUSE
#36: You appeared a little apprehensive above here
looking down on it and then I discovered that
you were down there anyway.
#14: Yeah. There was a little lapse of time there
and the next thing I knew, when you were suggest-
ing that I . . .
#36: I thought you were still up there looking down
and I said go down.
#14: Yeah, and when you suggested that I go up higher
and I looked up and I was looking out of the hole
from down below. The only thing I had . . I wasn't
apprehensive, it just looked a little bit crowded
down there. You know, there wasn't a whole lot of
room.
#36: That was about it as far as the descriptions you
gave me. Do you have anything else?
#14: No. In G-3, like I said I was getting a lot of
different shopts of this thing coming out. This
is just another huge, I had the feeling it was a
huge round shapeness so I didn't, couldn't get
any fins or anything associated with it.
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And this was where I had this feeling of liquid
fuel, of fumes venting out or whatever. And
then there was a lot of stuff coming back and
out of here.
And when these things were exiting the silo
it was almost as if it was slow motion, you
know, you could just see them coming and going
up.
PAUSE
#36: Is that about it?
#14: That's about it. If this isn't the target we
sure built a heck of a story around it.
#36: The time is 1113. End of session.
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