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Approved For Release 20 196-00788RO01900280002-1 IAGPA-F-SD 24 August 1983 SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - HU-1032/8308/08 (U) 1. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) On 110900 August 1983, source #08 was interviewed concerning personnel, activities, and equipment within a building unidentified to him. The project 8308 sponsor had provided geographic coordinates of the building and photograph of the building (see Incl 1). 2. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) For this interview source was provided the coordinates of the building. Other information provided by the sponsor was shown to the source after the interview as "feedback" since this interview provided the essential information required by sponsor. 3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared (see Incl 2). 4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the sponsor. This report related the salient points of the interview. (see Incl 3). 3 Incl VREDERICK H . ATWATER as CPT, MI OPS/TNG Officer CLASSIFIED BY: CDR, INSCOM DECL: OADR WARNING NOTICE ! SPEC AL ACCESS PROGRAM T 0 THOSE WITH VERIFIED ACCESS CAT 'a")RY t Cr Release 200 0 96-00788R001900280002-1 SG1C Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001900280002-1 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001900280002-1 Approved For Release 2000/,QM 00788R001900280002-1 #66: This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0900 hours 11 August 1983. Relax and concentrate now, relax and focus your attention solely and completely on today; SG1 And describe your impressions to me. #08: Now from a...from a. high overview appears to be a southwestern shore, of a country. The a...the a. point of interest is a....thirty, to ---thirty to fifteen miles east of a the .. .. southwestern.. a.. yeah portion of that line that goes up and down. It's very high. ....... This is the a ....the a ....a ..point of interest is a ..very a ...cluttered . ...... + .There a ...this is a ....system of a ....white hygienic looking a..pipes, conduits, a...bulbous type dome. #66: Your position of observation now? #08: I'm too damn close now,'s cluttered by all of this a...research appearing.... appearing center. #66: Okay, let's go two hundred feet over this area. When I read the coordinates again, we will go specifically two hundred feet right above this. SG1A straight down below you. #08: Okay, there's a building to the right-of this rectangle of focuses of the building to the right, there's a road in front of the building with a.... street lamps that are a little weird. #66: Okay, now what is it that's immediately to the left of the building? #08: ........There's two things, there's...a small rectangular ... building and....there's something... in the left background-of the building that's. .whitish . NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIQNALS Approved For Release 2000/08I - .9! --00788 R001900280002-1 Approved For Release 20& '%0A-R5P9'6-00788 R001900280002-1 #66: Um, um. You don't have, this whitish thing, you don' t have to name it or tell me what it is, but tell me its shape and so forth. #08: has a peculiarity, it' looks out of proportion because it's higher...higher than, about three times as 2 and half, three times the height, it's got a shortened-base. #66: That's correct. #08: And it is a....though you don' don't see it from the outside this...there's something again about a dome in there, a...hypenbolic dome. #66: Say again. #08: A parabolic dome, there's something about a dome associated with that building. #66: Okay. A parabolic dome? #08: Yeah. #66: All right. Now this building with the white thing next to it on the left, the building is the target I'm interested in. #08: Oh, you want to come back to the building. #66: All right. #08: The little building or the big one? #66: I think I want the big building. #08: Oh, all right. #66: So let's go inside the big building. Now inside this big building, describe activity, personnel and equipment. #08: ...A ah..... well let me well a. this is all intertwined, so let me break it down. #66: Take your time. #08: The a...most of the a..a personnel are wearing these a..these a lab frocks ..... some white, some Approved For Release 20 . 888001900280002-1 Approved For Release 2 - 0788ROO1900280002-1 gray. ........The a ..a white a..a f rocked ....personnel are in the, facing the building, are in the a ...right a ..wing . ...The a workers a..I got to tell you what it's not, it's not chemical, it's a...I... #66: It's not necessary to label the type of work, if you just describe the activity. #08: No, it's a flavor I haven't encountered and I 'm trying to describe it. #66: That's fine. #08: It has nothing to do with physics, it has nothing to do with chemistry. #66: Perhaps just the physical actions of the personnel would help. #08: Again the ...aspect of lack of dust in the ..the a...a sense of a...the very hygienic area comes into place as if this it is important and this were and... there's something about...part or partially ..the. object or the work having to do with ......with the work in a. vacuum or the apparatus in a vacuum. ...... I do see....a control panels of ..with switches and stuff. #66: Okay. #08: The (mumble) is very high, as high as the wall, they took up from floor to ceiling. #66: All right. #08: I get a this impression that it's's directive, it's not-it's not electronic research, sophisicated of the, the work is not research in electronics, it's direction, control...... of an apparatus I think, I guess. #66: All right. So in one wing of the building, we have people that are dressed in some sort a--- #08: Scientific frocks, you know the guys that go around the lab with these-- #66: Lab style frocks. #08: Yeah. Approved For Relea tual P96-00788ROO1900280002-1 Approved For Release 2000/0-W08 ' 1K=RLn-' b-00788R001900280002-1 #66: And we have some-- #08: --Down to the knees and unbuttoned in front. #66: Fine. And describe the sex of these people. #08: I had my eye just on one or two guys, a ..males, ...early sixties, ...a ..this a ...boy this is weird....a....round, you know round...rimmed glasses. ......I just got attached to this guy and following him around. #66: Um, mmm . So at least one of the individuals is a sixty year old male that wears round rimmed glasses. #08: Yeah, in fact he is quite short, 5'3", 5'4", bald, bald and a ..a ..gray sideburns and the rest of his hair is quite bald really, just a few stands on. #66: You say he's short? #08: Yeah, yeah, certainly not more than 5'4", 5'5" maybe . #66: Okay. Now this is one wing has these people dressed in these lab type frocks. #08: Yes, the only place I've been. #66: And the it has some sort of a electronic control panel that directs something. #08: Yeah, yeah. #66: All right. Let's look at the rest of the building. #08: I'm in the other wing now. They're also a ...a I mentioned this before but I better get it out again if we're going to go anyplace else. #66: That's fine. #08: The a. other people that are not dressed in white, but they're also wearing grayish blue, a..yeah, grayish blue frocks. And they kind of, the white frocks go the wing, I don't particularly know where these other guys go. ....This is a three or four story building. ..They, I also got to say this. The peculiarity, ..the street lights are Approved For Release 20 -00788 R001900280002-1 Approved For Release 2000/G8 1A11RDP96-00788 R001900280002-1 weird, they're not like ours, ...they have a ...they have metal shades ...that I haven' t seen in a long time. #66: Okay. #08: Okay now, the building is a....the building is, ..I see three stories. #66: Okay, we have a larger rectangular building, I'm interested in what's going on, the personnel, activity and equipment inside the building. #08: .............Okay, the a..white frock people are very small entity of the a ...a blue frock people have the..bulk of the activity there is a..director. ........Has to do with the...with maintenance or regulation of-electricity, electrical current somehow. .....I don't a .........when I asked for equipment, the only thing I see are... insulator pipes ......about 4 and 1/2 inches in diameter. ......And maybe 12 feet long, 'cause I lose it. #66: Um, um. All right. I have no further questions about this building. But I would like you to take a moment now and explore this building. #08: Yeah, the a..this aspect of the gray-blue frockers a..I should be able, I can address to it another time, it's, it goes fuzzy on me. I'm quite sure I can get it another time, we'll concentrate just on that . ...There's ...there's a workroom and there's those pipes (mumble) . I can't make heads or tails of the damn thing. I don't have anything more. #66: Okay, fine. Approved For Release 201111-18- - 0788R001900280002-1 Approved For Release 96-007 001900280002-1 AGENT REPORT For use of this form, see FM 3017(C); AR 381-20; the pmponant agency is the Office of the Assistop t Chief of Staff for intelligence. On 11 August 1983, Source HU-08 was interviewed concerning personnel activities, and equipment within an unidentified building. Source stated substantially as follows: This was a three or four story building. Inside the building there was an area which appeared to be "very hygienic" (not further identified) Which contained control panels "with switches and stuff" (not further identified) that extended from floor to ceiling. Activity in this area appeared to involve the direction or control of an apparatus (not further identified). Personnel in this building were dressed in "frocks" or body covering clothing of two distinct colors. Personnel dressed in white worked in one wing of the building, the hygienic area. Personnel dressed in grayish blue may have worked all over the building and appeared to be involved in "maintenance or regulation of electricity, electrical current somehow" (not further identified). There were more personnel dressed in grayish blue than in white. One individual dressed in white was described as being male, early sixties, wearing round rimmed glasses, bald with gray sideburns, and 5'3" to 5'4" tall (not further identified). Source was unable to provide detailed descriptions of equipment within the building. There was a parabolic shape (not further identified) associated with the building. Source also reported the presence of "insulator pipes" approximately 4 and 1/2 inches in diameter and perhaps 12 feet long (not further identified). No further amplifying information concerning SUBJECT was obtained from Source during this interview. WARNING NOTICE: SENSITIVE CLASSIFIED BY: CDR, INSCOM INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND DECL: OADR METHODS INVOLVED NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS