TRANSCRIPT - HU-1086/8407/01

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• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R001900690002-6
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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: May 8, 2000
• Sequence Number: 2
• Publication Date: May 30, 1984
• Content Type: TRANS

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#66: This will be a CENTER LANE interview for 0800 hours
30 May 1984. Relax and concentrate now, relax and
focus your attention on,
SG1 B
Focus in time on 9 April 1984, 9 April 1984 at
SG1 B
and describe your perceptions to me.
#01: ............... ....a picture of a sight of row of
things dug in the ground like flat tops, people
inside. People on the ground outside. See ah....
see planes, very low........ ........ after I go
inside there's ah...some tanks, two tanks.. .that's
wrong they're armor type vehicles. .......... See
a turbulent cloud like ah ...... can't tell if it's
moving or just growing, this cloud.
#01: It's billowing. ....It's coming from a silver pod
that was dropped ...... very low and billowing, it's
spreading and growing up from the edges. It's
cooking like, I don't know. That phrase it's
ah.... ......barely generated by a silver canister--
#01: .......... Um foot and a half in diameter, a little
bit narrower at one end then at the other, ring
seal about a third back from the narrow end, it's
just producing this cloud out of one end.
Something's burning inside or
something's .... ah...generating it.
#66; Go on.
#01; Just keeps billowing out, it's very heavy, cloud's
very heavy, it's not rising at all, it's staying
very close to the ground. ........ Getting a vision
of.. .vision of people being burned, like on the
arms from this cloud, face and arms. ..........
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Almost like they're peeling their skin off. Ah....
....I just see people running into the... .running
and trying to go into these flat in ground places
to hide.
#66: Okay. Tell me about the silver thing from which
this cloud comes.
#01: It is ah ....... dropped from a very slow moving
aircraft, I can see it falling very slowly and
hitting the ground and bouncing and skidding along
the ground. From when it was dropped it started
producing like this ah...real heavy element cloud,
it's like ah... very wet, very wet cloud that, it
doesn't want to rise it just hovers along the
ground, spreads, rapidly dissipates, but it spreads
as it goes. And there's ah.... it's like a valve
that's broken on the end of the silver thing, this
canister. Canister's got some shiny parts but it's
predominantly flat dark green or flat black.
#66: Okay. Let's try moving on the coordinates again.
I don't have a good description of the area of the
globe and I think we should be in, let's try moving
on the coordinates again and see if some new data
comes in instead of what you have told me.
SG1 B
on 9 April 84.
#01: ............... Area is ah.... very grainy, rocky,
flat, scruffy. It's like a crust of the soil.
There's ah...shallow depressions in the ground,
what appears to be long ah...long trench lines,
they're areas dug lower. See some rocks, still a
little bit of scrub brush. Over at one side I see
ah.... more rugged boulders or rocks piled that
going up higher,... just very ah...very scruffy,
scruffy type of description. The only buildings in
the area are, aside from the flat things that are
dug into the ground, are ah ..... see some white
walls of what's left of buildings. They're like
made from squares of earth that have been packed
and stacked, slate or rock roofs, and they're heavy
gray stone. I don't see many of those, there's
just a few.
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#66: Okay. I think we are going to have to go deeper
into the problem. I'm looking for a particular
event, a particular happening which may have
originated at this place that you're describing
now. And you may have become entrapped by the
event itself and wound up here at this place which
may be the origin of the event. So I need you to
go deeper and not get entrapped by it and go to
this specific coordinate. Go to
SG1 B
#01: ................ .......... I've got to keep saying
this, long narrow canister just in slow motion
going over, goes like ah...falling sideways, hits
the ground. Ah...I want to say explodes, but it
doesn't entirely, it's ah.... um.... ah..... ...
getting two different kinds of clouds now, I'm
getting a ...almost like a heat ball.
#66: Tell me about the heat ball.
#01: It's very, it's like flames so hot you can't see
it, very intense, but it dissipates very rapidly.
I see ah.... just everything being enveloped by
this ah...it's almost, oh hell, it's like fuel
mixture that's experimental or something. It burns
everything it touches, even though it may not be
burning, it's burning everything it touches. Got a
ah ..... got a.... single shock wave, ah ..... now
way in the distance from where this... canister
object fell, there appears to be.... um.... ... it's
like another piece or part, ...but I see it sitting
upright and it's melting down around the bottom and
melting some other metals with it. And there's
ah.. ..... large section of ..... ah I don't know
what they call it, it's like a metal platform type
thing with, I keep getting impressions of.. ah..any
different kinds of angle iron intersecting and it's
being ripped, ripped like cardboard. There's ah...
.... just everything is being.... lot of desolving
action, I see a lot of things desolving or
something.
#66: Okay, now this, describe, you said there was
something that was far away and something that was
a part of this, but it was a long ways away.
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#01: It's like clumped in different places, I don't know
how to explain that, it's all in a place but it's
very spread out, it's very open, flat, scruffy area
that's got these flat in ground construction type
things there and they're spread way out and there's
indentations that look like slightly sunk roads
going in certain pattern interconnecting these.
#66: Okay, now this thing that, this thing that happens,
this little canister and this thing that happens at
this place, is there a event somewhere else
associated with this happening?
#01: Just a minute. ........... The only input I can
get is the ........ feel like in the center of this
..ah...what I call an explosion, but it's not
initially, it's ah...like broken valves and these
mixture of gases, these billowing clouds spreading
and the only perception I have is ... like being
next to these and getting a extreme high pitch
whine and the sound that goes rapidly beyond
hearing range and causes everything to be rapidly
excited or vibrated, and then things breaking and
this cloud enveloping everything and then ah..like
an intense fireball for a second that's so white
hot that you can't see it. And then ah.... this
little canister kind of end over ends the air and
landing. And then I see.. .objects being like
blistered and people some just sifts away that are
enveloped with some of this, they're being
blistered all over, on the skin, like it's very
caustic, whatever. Ah...it's like, I don't know.
#66: Okay.
#01: I don't know how to describe it any better, it's
like being inside the field of something and it's
almost a mixture of two events like, one is ....
trying to heat something up or move something with
heat and the other is trying to envelop it and
simultaneously this causes this ah ..... mistake or
whatever.
#66: Okay.
#01: I don't know how to describe it over again.
#66: I have no further questions but I would like you to
spend just a moment and go beyond the confines of
my questions to where ever that takes you.
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#01: ........... Just keep getting a perception of this
.. flat, explosive cloud like going out. I'm kind
of torn between it was deliberate and not
deliberate. I think it was deliberate but it was
an accident as well.
#66: There's an accident flavor associated with this?
#01: Yes. It was like the intent was to do something
different and they bottom line is that they
succeeded but they didn't expect the way they
succeeded. It was a far different outcome, so they
can't tell now whether it was an accident with the
canister or if it was the result of the experiment.
#66: Okay. Now, one other question. You always kept
this explosion that you talked about and that's my
choice of words, at a place with flat buildings
that are built into the ground and so forth and so
on. All right, keeping that event in mind, scan
the entire rest of the globe and see if there is
anything else that happens on the entire rest of
the globe that is caused by or in relation to this
other event.
#01: ................... All I get is a...get an image
of a satellite down, like a dish, but it doesn't
have any smooth surfaces, it just has the girdering
type of construction. I don't see any connection,
it's just an image I get.
#66: Okay.
#01: That's all I get.
#66: Okay, fine, I have no further questions.
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