MINUTES OF 3 MAY 1979 DOD GRILL FLAME COMMITTEE MEETING

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• Publication Date: May 4, 1979
• Content Type: MFR

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DEPARTMENT F THE ARMY
US ARMY INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY COMMAND
FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, MARYLAND 20755
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SUBJECT: Minutes of 3 May 1979 DOD GRILL FLAME Committee
Meeting (U)
1. (U) The GRILL FLAME Committee Meeting was held from 0930
to 1545 hours, 3 May 1979.
2. (U) Following individuals were present:
Dr. Vorona, DIP.
Mr. Kramar, AMSAA
COL DePeospero, AMSAA
Mr. Graff, AF FTD
MAJ Watt, INSCOM
Mr. Clinton, MIRADCOM
MAJ Stoner, ACSI
3. (C) Dale Graff briefed the committee concerning the
recent "exercise" done by his people in helping the Agency
locate a missing aircraft. Details of the "exercise" are con-
sidered very sensitive by the AF and all committee members had
to sign a statement acknowledging receipt of the information.
MAJ Stoner, OACSI Staff, will make an effort to have the brief-
ing given to high Army officials.
4. (S) John Kramaspresented an overview of the program status
at AMSAA. Mr. Kramar provided the committee with the following
handouts (attached as Incls 1, 2 and 3):
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a. Draft copy, GRILL FLAME Classification Guide
b. Planned In-House GRILL FLAME Efforts, FY 79
c. Phase 4, Quick Look, Descriptive Summary.
Mr. Kramar requested that committee members review the documents
and forward comments to AMSAA.
5. (C) MAJ Watt, INSCOM, briefed on the status of the GRILL
FLAME Project at INSCOM. Briefing included a short overview
of how program was developed - how personnel were selected for
the roject; training methods developed, and future plans.
indicated they might request a conference with INSCOM
personnel to see if they can get some ideas on how to develop a
parallel program. MAJ Watt indicated that such a meeting would
be favorably considered by INSCOM.
6. (S) Randy Clinton, MIRADCOM, briefed on the program being
developed at MIA. Contract was let with SRI on 21 May 79. First
six months will involve training and procedural developments
at SRI. The MIA effort will be directed at the use of psycho-
kinesis (PK).
7. (.S) briefed the committee on some of
his indepen Went research results. Some of his major points are
as follows:
a. It appears that political climate at CIA has changed
and that the agency might take a more active role in the field
of parapsychology.
b. Felt that people newly-identified with the field of
parapsychology might have a tendency to become too emotionally
involved.
c. CIA will have a report "on the streets" within 3-4
weeks concerning nine US Labs using remote viewing techniques.
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Meeting (U)
8. (U) Dr. Vorona announced, that the GRILL FLAME Committee
would meet every other month on the second Thursday starting
with July session.
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MURRAY B. WATT
Major, MI
INSCOM Project Manager
GRILL FLAME
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