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September 6, 1979
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Approved For Release 20g~ 0";orc RDP96-00788R002000240027-6 DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY US ARMY INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY COMMAND FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, MARYLAND 20755 6 September 1979 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD SUBJECT: SRI Trip Report (U) 1. (S) From 20-25 Aug 79, the undersigned visited SRI International, Menlo Park CA, to monitor contract action on the Grill Flame program and to exchange technical informa- tion of interest. a. On 20 Aug 79, the morning consisted of general discussions of the training sessions to be conducted during the two-week training cycle. The sessions will include, but not be limited to, the following areas: Remote Viewing (RV) of photographs (projected 35mm slides), RV of areas designated by map coordinates, RV of random noise electronic devices to provide the viewer with real time feedback of his RV ability, and appropriate RV exercises to enhance a viewer's particular area of demonstrated ability. During the afternoon, the SG1I undersigned provided SRI personnel with a briefing on the progress of the INSCOM Grill Flame program. Also in attendance SG1I at this briefing was of the CIA. was the interviewer for Mr. Pat Price when Mr. Price was doing RV work for the CIA in 1975. That evening the undersigned had SGlldinner with During dinner he related many of his personal experiences with Mr. Price. At the present time Mr. SG11 is working on the within the CIA. SG1A b. On 21 Aug 79, a RV session was conducted in support of a "real world" problem. The RVer was provided appropriate target data (Geographic Coordinates and description of type of information required) which was supplied by Air Force Tactical Air Command Intelligence personnel. The RVer was able to provide meaningful data concerning the target. Results CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA DECLASSIFY ON: 6 Sep 99 EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA REASON: 2-301-C (3) (6) GRILL FLAME Approved For Release 2001/ RDP96-00788R002000240027-6 Approved For Releas tLQIA-RDP96-00788R002000240027-6 SG1A IAFM-OPS-HU-SA 6 September 1979 SUBJECT: SRI Trip Report (U) roblem mentioned in subparagraph b above at the request of of this RV session are available through Air Force Grill Flame channels and can be requested by INSCOM Grill Flame personnel if necessary. The afternoon consisted of RV work with random noise electronic devices (successful in that the device was perturbed during the RV) and a two-hour discussion of RV practices with Hella Hammid, a well known RVer who works with the SRI personnel. c. On 22 Aug 79, SRI personnel conducted a discussion of the judging of previous "beacon" type RV sessions. After this discussion, the rest of the day was used to do RV of random noise electronic devices (successful) and photographs. For the first RV session of photographs, the RVer was asked to pick out the photograph he perceived from a "pool" of four photographs. The RVer was able to do this. This procedure was not continued because it was not considered beneficial to have the RVer anticipating left hemispheric analysis of his own RV images. d. On 23 Aug 79, INSCOM personnel were asked to not come to SRI in the morning because Mr. Gale of the DOD Grill Flame "Gale Committee" was to be there and SRI personnel would be occupied with him. SRI personnel reported later that their meeting with Mr. Gale went well. Apparently they discussed statistical judging of RV sessions. During the afternoon hours another RV session was conducted against the "real world" of this RV session were significan personnel. Results Another RV session of a photograph was conducted later in the afternoon (successful). e. On 24 Aug 79, the morning consisted of RV work with random noise electronic devices (unsuccessful) and in the afternoon another RV session of a photograph was conducted (very scucessful). 2. (S) The initial report on Phase One of the training at SRI is due to be published by the middle of September 1979. At the request of the undersigned, SRI personnel provided the following POCs: Hella Hammid SGFOIA3^ Approved For Release 2001/04/022 CI&WgAM- 0788R002000240027-6 Approved For Release - DP96-00788R002000240027-6 IAFM-OPS-HU-SA 6 September 1979 SUBJECT: SRI Trip Report (U) Ingo Swann SGFOIA3 3. (S) The time spent at SRI was very beneficial to the undersigned. The face-to-face exchange of information in this highly technical field cannot be replaced. I strongly recommend continued trips to SRI by INSCOM Grill Flame personnel. The two-week training program organized by the SRI personnel meets the terms of the contract. 4e, XF-Z:- FREDERICK H. ATWATER 1LT, MI Operations Officer INSCOM Grill Flame Project Approved For Release 2001/0 DP96-00788R002000240027-6