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July 17, 1981
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rrnr r' Approved For Release 2008/06/16: CIA-RDP96-00788R002000260016-6 0r 1'A3 TMENT O THE ARMY ?1 f I ,,? ; HE GENT F AL COUNSEL VNA,I IINGTUN, D.C. 7031 i) NI PLY ro Al TL:NRUN OF 17 July 1981. MEMORANDUM FOR THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF STAFF FOR INTELLIGENCE SUBJECT: Grill Flame (S) The purpose of this memorandum is to inform you as to both the present status of the joint Army/DIA Gr i I I Flame program and to provide guidance for future Army Grill Flame activities. Earlier this week I Met with BG Rapmund, Chairperson of the Human Use Review Committee, to resolve whether or not the joint program is within Procedure 18, "Experimentation on Human Subjects" of DOD 5240.1-R. Our discussions were most informative and I learned a great deal about the program beyond the human use issue. (S) To resolve the most time sensitive issue - what to do with the Army money already committed to the FY 1981 portion of the joint program - I have decided that, since it is at least arguable that none of the FY 1981 taskings targeted by either the Army or DIA involve human experimentation, and in light of Secretary Marsh's approval of the Army's involvement in the program th Toney comet i ttc=d _f r F Y1 be" ~' ~.. From both a legal f; policy perspective, ? d rf . tn~~ch more c l~crt ble cal lir:p r All Flame .acts y t.y human eS~per rnentation However, ase" "upor~ G t a p uric "s representations I believe t eat MANY may participate in the FY 1981 portion of the joint program without insisting on DOD Secretariat review and approval of DIA's involvement. The substance of the. Ra.pmund representations provide: :1 F' 1981 uds ing E ` ' r. , ~ "! t? ., mote ~a dew Pa tec,hn1y4e And ( . $` w l B t b i l re , e n.vsa y cf for rho remainder of the fiscal year. (S) The second purpose of this memorandum is to provide advi h ce on ok in the fu4i , .th, Ar'my can participate in Grill Flame activities without becoming entangled in similar problems. Since .:rny Army involvement in Grill Flame activities will have to be reviewed and dpproyed by the 1 stfrwt-f,+1 l`'.. all Army. Grill, lr?,p. WE cone 1data under your sapelvisron and.coordinated with 89 uan use,, fr .- ",< Our legal obligations in this area coupled with th , e current st'afe of the science lead me to believe that the operational aspects of parapsychology, by their very nature cannot be divorced from medical and scientific research. In my opinion this is exactly what has happened both in your in-house pr'oc the SRI contract. Thi. u t be corrected., Therefore, .aW. big nn r M d cacti year I r^e=: o^ c:nd that ri submit for Secretariat level . revie n ;%a naval; an inventory of-a l GRILL FLAME HULU Approved For Release 2008/06/16: CIA-RDP96-00788R002000260016-6 Approved For Release 2008/06/16: CIA-RDP96-00788R002000260016-6 planned Army Grill Flame involvement for the coming year (i.e., in-house operational, in-house research, outside contracting, etc.). Such an approach will not only be of great assistance to the Secretary and the Under Secretary but I believe it will also improve the overall effective- ness of the Army's Grill Flame efforts by enabling all Army elements to support knowledgeably the effort.. (S) I recognize that an integral aspect of a consolidated Army program will continue to be contracting with outside organizations, such as SRI. I do not discourage such contracting. I anticipate, however, that the Army's likely continued interests in using military personnel and in understanding more about the physiological aspects of arapsyc.hoioyy, any future joint programs, such a:' the present Army/DIA program, w 1..:.J )el d as including both 'esearc i and' hu rarr experimcntaticn. A + ? P rt c1 a1 " ~, ~. ,ct rl:v : 7 t61 _.ast t s t 1 r6 w:=riWK 1E K~+ m t kp ~ ~.scp pro- lems in thi$. r?ea Would tle to contraiit independently rather than as a Participant it a joint program. (U) I would be pleased to digquss this ~Eriatter with you if you so desire. CF: Secretary of the Army Mr. Taft, OSD/GC BG Rapmund DelberK. Spur_lock,.!~Jr. General Counsel!' Approved For Release 2008/06/16: CIA-RDP96-00788R002000260016-6