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ii ILIRIU 1 Declassified and Approved For Release 2012/11/21 : CIA-RDP99-00418R000100100049-8 4 20 SEP 1974 Director Colby on the Record :' ,?. In a rare on-the-record interview vert activities reflects the kind of world i CIA be separated from intelligence with TIME Correspondent Strobe Tal- we live in. If it's a world where two su- i gathering? bott, Director William Colby defended perpowers are peering over the fence at ' the CIA against its critics, ranged over each other, then it's a matter of con- That proposal stems from the Bay the current functions of the agency, and cern when a hostile political group is I of Pigs. The problem there was that we discussed future prospects. Highlights: --- about to take over a country. But if it's didn't let the analysts in on the act. Now a world in which we've worked out a re- senior levels of the analyst community Why does the CIA intervene in oth- lationship of reasonable restraint, Or are aware of covert activities and have er nations' internal affairs? detente, with the other superpowers, a chance to comment. In the early years. then it won't matter to us who runs One of the agency, we tried conducting in- I'm not saying we're engaged in a of these countries in a far-flung area telligence and action operations through campaign to bring democracy to the of course, something very close to us two separate units, but they kept get- world. That's not what the U.S. Gov- might still be imPortant for political or 'ting in each other's way. eminent expects from this agency. security reasons. There may still be cer- We're expected to carry out U.S. pol- I tam situations where U.S. interests; What alternatives to covert opera-. icy. Over the years, we've helped dem- ?and I don't mean corporate interests, tions are possible for the CIA? 1 ocratic forces rather broadly. In those1 but fundamental political interests?can cases where we have got involved with be adversely affected. In some of those, - We could not?and did not?con- military regrnes, we did so because there was a greater danger from some place ca it would 1.3e. appropriate to take 'duct the SALT negotiations and reach al some modest action such as establishing SALT agreement until after our intelli-1 else. I don't think we've toppled dem- a relationship with somebody who needs gence techniques had improved to the i ocratic regimes, and I don't thin.< ' we the help. But I stress: it's not now our 'degree that we could tell whether the So- ! did so in Chile. First, we didn't bring Government's policy to engage in these yiets were going to abide by the agree- about the soup, and second,the Allen- ?c.tiitiniic around the world ments. On a number of occasions, wel The degree ?four involvement in co- 'Should the operational side of the de regime was not democratic, Granted ? - the military regime is not democratic, How is a covert operation. Tiarted? I don't ? think a Communist regime is democratic. We follow the traffic with the em- Our program in Chit n 'e was to sus- bassy. We follow the political attitudes tai the democratic forces against the that we have toward that country. We Allende political forces, which were sup- in generate a specific suggestion in the light - pressing various democratic elements . , a -variety of ways?harassing radio sta- of what we think would be national policy. We don't do anything without tions harassing some parts of the press and some political groups. We looked approval. Sometimes we get the specific sug- forward to the democratic forces corn- ir.g to power in the elections o11976. gestion from the outside?from an am- bassador, from the State Department or from the National Security Council staff. They'll say: "Why don't you guys do so and so?" We have the technicians here sponsibility of the CIA to give our lead- who decide what is possible and what is ems the knowledge necessary to move not. it's the same sort of thing you get into a dire situation and defuse it. To what extent had Communist forces intervened in Chile? Castro spent about a month down there in the late spring of 1973. There were a lot of extremist exiles in Chile from other countries .in Latin America_ There was a lot of assistance going into Chile from Cuba and other Cornmunist sources. There are indications that there have identified a situation that was get- ting very sour in some country or be-: twee.n two countries. By reporting the ; facts and our assessment, we generated diplomatic action so that the trouble we predicted did not happen. For instance, peace arrangements might, have broken dowa, but because of our intelligence,. negotiations saved the situation. In the future this sort of intelligence will help our country in negotiations and diplomatic relationships. As a result, we will be less likely to get into screaming crises, and there will be less need for co- vert action. It will be the increasing re- with military activity. How you land troops on a hostile shore is not devel- oped in the White House. The Joint Chiefs develop a proposal. Thea if the NVhite House approves it, you go ahead. 'But I want to emphasize that we're was some Soviet activity. They were put-. talking about a-very small number of co- tins some money in. as well as hard- ". vert actions. Policy is generated at the ware of various sorts. This was a pro- NSC, not here. gram to support an eventual takeover in what I would call a nondemocratic fashion?suppressing the opposition and extending Communist -influence ,e!se- where in the hemisphere. Laos. It was considered important Will the CIA continue?to mount co- to the U.S. that a country remain friend- vert operations? ? , ? ly and not be taken over by hostile fore- ! es. Rather than use our military force or an enormous political effort, you try to influence some key people and key po- litical groups. The Laos operation cost substantial amounts but was cheap com- pared with other ways of doing buiirtess. We were not involved in the 1967 coup in Greece or in the coup in Chile last Yea r? oved For Release 2012/11/21 : CIA-RDP99-00418R000100100049-8 _ What would you regard as a suc- cessful covert action? ? The CIA has three major functions: science and technological work, analy- sis, and the clandestine collection of in- telligence. Now there's been a fourth re- sponsil:?ility, and That is positively inEuencing, a situation ?through political or pa:arnilii2ry means. That's the one that sces up and down depending on r.a- tional ;,'- --- A "" Declassified and Appr III