CABLE TO HENRY A. KISSINGER FROM ELLSWORTH BUNKER

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LOC-HAK-490-6-21-8
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RIPLIM
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T
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2
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January 11, 2017
Document Release Date: 
October 3, 2012
Sequence Number: 
21
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Publication Date: 
August 5, 1972
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CABLE
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.a-M--?40(---? PVC'S 14 ' No Objectior:iDeclassification in Part 2012/10/03 4-1-.1/W-490-6-21-8 ? LV A TOP SECRET S. ENS1.11 08 27 25X1 10;?41 i414/4""n Ptfaf .t ?4 ij0PSECRETSENSITIVE 2.50640Z _AUG 72 FROr: AN3ASSADOR,9UNYER, KATHMAMU . SAIUUN 0127 IM1EDIATE-77ni TO: THE WHITE HOUSE, EXCLUSIVELY EYES ONLY, HENRY A. KISSIrtap _'-': REFS: A) Wfl-{S 2101 B) wHS 2101 C) SAIGON 0126 . ro ? I VET WITH THIEU MORNING OF AUGUST 4 PRIOR TO DEPARTURE FOR KATMEAOU AND BRIEFED HIM ON AUGUST- 1 MEETING ALONG LINES AGREED 1 REFS 3 AND C. 1 ? I SAID THAT WE PRESENTED OUR -NEW PROPOSALS, IN'EFFECT'OUR JOINT JANUARY 25 PROPOSAL WITH THE THREE MODIFICATIONS ON WHICH WE HAD MUTUALLY .AGREED. THE OTHER 'SIDE HAD RESPONDED THAT THEY WOULD STUDY THEM BUT THAT AT FIRST CONSIDERATION THEY SEEMED TO ,REPRESENT 'ONLY A SLIGHT CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. . I SAID TEAT THE OTHER SIDE THEN PRESENTEDA PROPOSAL WHICH ' SEEMED TO INDICATE, AT LEAST IN SOME RESPECTS, CONSIDERABLE MOVErENT AWAY FROM THEIR PREVIOUS- POSITION, THEY INTIMATED A WILLI!:GOESS TO TALK TO THE GVN, INCLUDING THIEU HIMSELF. ' THEY ALSO GAVE SONE INDICATION OF COMING TO AN?ACCEPTANOE OF THE PRINCIPLE ' THAT DETAILS OF A POLITICAL SOLUTION SHOULD BE WORKED OUT BY THE vIETNAUSE. THEY CONTINUED, HOWEVER, THEIR INSISTENCE ON AN ULTIVATE AI r OF A GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL CONCORD WITHOUT HIM (THIEU). , I SAID THAT YOU HOPED TO BE ABLE TO DRAW THE OTHER SIDE. OUT FURTHER ON THESE POINTS AT THE NEXT MEETING WHICH HAS BEEN SET FOR AUGUST 14, ( ArD.TAT,YOU BELIEVED IT WOULD BE USEFUL IF AFTER THAT MEETING YOU sHOJID. cOlE TO SAIGON TO DISCUSS THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH HIM. THE - DATES YOU HAVE IN MIND ARE AUGUST 17 AND 18.. . THIEU REPLIED .THAT HE THOUGHT SUCH A MEETING WOULD BE MOST - USEFUL AO WELCOMED YOUR VISIT. I IMPRESSED ON HIM THE NEED FOR AnsOLUTE SECRECY CONCERNING IT. THIEU COMMENTED THAT OUR ULTIMATE GOAL OF COURSE IS TO ;"CD TEE WAR; THAT WE MUST CONTINUE TO IMPRESS ON THE OTHER SIDE TEri WE WANT TO ENGAGE IN SERIOUS TALKS; THAT WE HAVE NO DESIGNS or T!4E, ro wISH TO DESTROY THEM. IN THE MEANTIME. THE ONLY MEANS TO REACH THIS.03jECTI.YE_ISEERJHE_P.RESS.URLON............_'.....____.??,?, ? , ? ai] [State Dept. review completed] .[MORI/CDF PGS 1-2 PER C03322149 ON-FILE NSC RELEASE INSTRUCTIONS APPLY' ? No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/10/03: LOC-HAK-490-6-21-8 e . No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/10/03: LOC-HAK-490-6-21-8 ? ? ? . "IP ? ? ? o' sA ??? ? ? ,* ??' SUBSEV.YENTLY I RAISED THE IssuE-tif7A)4v6-60E0101-oNs IN MR-1, EX- pLAIriro OUR CONCERN THAT THE MARINE DIVISION NOT BECOME OVER- EXTENDED IN THE EFFORT TO SECURE TERRITORY IN ANTICIPATION OF A CEASE-FIRE. r SAID THAT IT WAS OUR VIEW THAT A CEASE-FIRE WAS NOT IMMINENT AND IT WAS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT THE GVN FORCES SHOULD-BE PREPARED. FOR ANOTHER MAJOR EFFORT BY THE ENEMY FOR WHICH THE LATTER IS OBVIOUSLY PREPARING, THIEU REPLIED THAT HE AGREED ENTIRE1.Y, THAT, AS I WAS AWARE, HE HAD FREQUENTLY FORECAST ANOTHER MAJOR EFFORT BY-THE ENEMY TO BEGIN THIS MONTH, AND THAT IT WAS HIS INTENTION TO KEEP IN A FLEXIBLE POSITION TO MEET THE THREAT AND TO DESTROY THE ENEMY IN COUNTRY. (NOTE: THIEU HAS INSTRUCTED GENERAL VIEN TO PREPARE THE 7TH ARVN DIVISION TO MOVE TO AR 1 IF NEEDED, ALTHOUGH GENERAL WEYAND HAS SUGGESTED THAT AN EQUIVALENT FORCE COMPOSED OF RANGER GROUPS WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO MOVING THE 7TH DIVISION SO FAR FROM ITS HOME SASE. I AGREE; THE RANGERS ARE USED TO SERVING AS A MOBILE FORCE WHEREAS THE ARVN REGULAR DIVISIONS ARE NOT.) ? ' GENERAL WEYAND THEN JOINED US FOR A VERY USEFUL REVIEW OF THE SITUATION COUNTRY-WIDE, COVERING ENEMYSTRENGTH AND INTENTIONS, AND RVNAF AND ALLIED PREPARATIONS TO COUNTER ENEMY' MAJOR THRUSTS. GENERAL WEYAND EXPRESSED SATISFACTION WITH THE SITUATION IN ALL CORPS AREAS WITHEXCEPTION OF MR-3 WHERE GENERAL MINH'S PERFORMANCE STILL CONTINUES TO BE UNSATISFACTORY. GENERAL WEYAND POINTED OUT THAT RVNAF EVERY WHERE WAS IN STRONG CONTACT WITH THE ENEMY.EXCEPT IN ER-3 WHERE MUCH MORE CAN AND SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. AS you KNOW GENERAL ABRAMS AND I ALSO HAD REPEATEDLY BROUGHT TO THIEU'S ATTENTION GENERAL MINH'S LACK-LUSTRE PERFORMANCE. THIEU ADMITS MINH'S CAUTIOUS NATURE BUT APPARENTLY HAS CONFIDENCE IN HIM, EXPECIALLY IN MINH'S LOYALTY, AND SO FAR HAS MADE NO MOVE TO' REPLACE HIM, HE INTIMATED TO GEERAL. ABRAMS AND ME A PROBLEM WAS TO FIND A SATISFACTORY REPLACEXENT. I PLAM.TO LEAVE KATHMANDU TUESDAY MORNING', 5TH, AND SHALL: BE FOLLUJING UP WITH COMMENTS. ON OTHER SIDE'S PROPOSALS. 011\11 WARM PERSONAL REGARDS. VW ? ? ? 1,, .24 4" ? 'I. ? . ? 2 ? * ? & .? 1.1., ....I: ? ?.4 ??=1, re; ? ? ? 1?4:. ? -.h.% ? j ? ? ? ---- 'No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/10/03: LOC-HAK-490-6-21-8