JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL FRIDAY - 7 MAY 1971

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP74B00415R000500040038-8
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• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
• Document Release Date: August 24, 2001
• Sequence Number: 38
• Publication Date: May 7, 1971
• Content Type: NOTES

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Friday - 7 May 1971
1. (Confidential - JMM) Mr. Cord Meyer, ADDP, and I met with
William Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, to tell him
we were about to see Senators Milton Young and Allen Ellender, in company
with Assistant Secretary of State David Abshire, regarding Radio Free Europe
and Radio Liberty. Woodruff said in his personal opinion the Radios were not
worth continuing but when we argued to the contrary he said that in any event
they definitely should not be included in the Agency budget for FY 1972. He said
if we could find some other way of financing them it would be all right with
him.
.I told Woodruff that he was wrong in thinking that the Agency had
"dragged its .feet" in severing its relations with the Radios since we had been
willing to do this ever since the Katzenbach report, but since no other solution
could be found, we had been ordered by the President to keep the Radios going.
2. (Confidential - JMM) Mr. Meyer and I then joined Mr. Abshire in
meeting with Senator Young to whom Mr. Abshire explained plans for a "public-
private" corporation to be funded by the Congress which would take over the
Radios. Senator Young was sympathetic, and assured us he would help promote
the necessary legislation. He said that the Defense appropriations bill probably
would not be passed before the August recess so the Radios might be supported
by a continuing resolution until then.
3. (Confidential - JMM) Messrs. Abshire, Meyer and I were then joined
by Assistant Secretary for European Affairs. Martin Hillenbrand, in a meeting
with Chairman Ellender, Senate Appropriations Committee. In response to
Abshire's explanation of our purpose, Ellender said he had been convinced for
years that our problems with the Soviets were largely of our own making and that
nothing should be done to widen the gap between us, and that we should make every
effort to improve our relations with Moscow. He expressed serious doubts that
our Radios would contribute to this purpose, but said if a majority of the Senate
favored the proposed legislation, he would not actively oppose it.
So far as timing was concerned, E1lender offered no encouragement for
the suggestion that the Radios could be supported under a continuing resolution
until late summer, insisting that he planned to have the Defense appropriation
bill out of the way by the end of June.
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4. (Unclassified - GLC) Called Scott Cohen, in the office of Senator
Charles Percy, to tell him that our Personnel people had been impressed with
whom he had referred to us. I told him that while she
had good credentials, we would have to look to see if there was an appropriate
opening for her. I said we would keep him posted.
5. (Secret - GLC) Personnel, called about a telephone
conversation he had with a Colonel Brown of Air Force who was testifying before
the House Appropriations Committee yesterday on the Defense budget. Chairman
Mahon asked Colonel Brown in open session about some figures on Air Force
enlisted personnel. Brown asked to be excused from answering this question in
open session. Mahon agreed but told him to provide the information to Robert
Foster, of the Committee staff. Brown is advising Foster that these
He will suggest to
base with Ralph Preston and Foster on this.
oste:r that any further information on their utilization should come from the
does not have this information. We plan to touch
6. (Confidential - GLC) Met very briefly with Hyman Fine, Senate
Armed Services Committee staff, to assure that the Director's declination
to participate in the GAO R&D study did not infer an unwillingness to be
cooperative with Senator McIntyre and the R&D Subcommittee. Fine seemed
to appreciate this and asked that I come back and talk with him further about
it early next week.
7. (Internal Use Only - PLC) Delivered and discussed with Mr. Fox,
in the office of Representative John Saylor (R. , Pa. ), a letter to Mr. Saylor
from Mr. Maury explaining the Agency's .position re requesting medical
information from the physician of an applicant.
8. (Internal Use Only - PLC) A suggested reply to a constituent who
expressed concern to the article in Ramparts alleging CIA involvement in
drug trafficking was discussed with Miss Mary McAuliff, staff member for
Senator Marlow Cook (R. , Ky. ). Miss McAuliff appreciated our assistance
and stated she would follow the guidelines provided.
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9. (Secret - JGO) In response to his telephone call, met with
Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services
Committee, and picked up three classified documents from him. See
Memorandum for the Record.
10. (Secret - JGO) Received a call from Mr. James Lowenstein,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, who requested that the documents
that he had forwarded to the Agency for safekeeping during his absence from
the country be returned on Monday. See Journal item of 16 April 1971.
11. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. William Cook, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and gave him a copy of the Guide to
CIA Statutes and Law for his use in reporting H. R. 6483 to the full Committee.
Mr. Cook anticipates questions concerning the authority and responsibility
of the Director and Deputy Director of Central Intelligence which is covered
in detail by footnotes to section 102 of the National Security Act of 1947 in
the Guide. Mr. Cook thanked me for the assistance and said that unfortunately
the full Committee in all probability will not be meeting next week so it will
be the following week before the bill will come up in the full Committee.
12. (Confidential - JGO) In response to his telephone request, met
with Mr. J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate Subcommittee on Internal
Security, Committee on Judiciary, and received from him a transcript
(copy number three) of the Subcommittee on Internal Security testimony of
Mr. Lawrence Britt. He told me that any suggestions the Agency might
have for further amplification of the broad questions that were posed during
the hearing would be appreciated. The Committee would like to do as
meaningful a report as possible short of jeopardizing Mr. Britt's forthcoming
book. He said that we should feel free to deal directly with Mr. Britt on
any suggestions but in the event we have no further contact with him, the
Committee will make the final corrected transcript after review by Mr. Britt,
available for our review, if we so desire.
13. (Internal Use Only - JGO) I attempted to see Representative
Charles Wilson (D. , Calif.) but he was away from the city for the day. An
open appointment was made for Monday.
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14. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Richard Barton, Employee
Benefits Subcommittee staff, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee,
who told me that Chairman Hanley (D., N. Y. ), Representative Hogan (R., Md.),
Mr. Martiny, and himself will be visiting NSA on Monday. He also said
that Chairman Hanley appeared quite satisfied with his meeting with Mr. Maury
and myself of yesterday afternoon. After the visit to NSA on Monday, he will
see what can be done on working out details for a visit to the Agency as
suggested by Mr. Maury and Chairman Hanley.
15. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and gave him additional detailed information
on the American Institute for Foreign Study. Mr. Preston was most
appreciative.
16. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Robert Foster, House Appropriations
Committee staff, who told me that he will be meeting on Monday with
representatives of Defense Department as a followup to a matter that arose
during a hearing two weeks ago concerning justification of Air Force personnel
totals. An item relating to had
interested one of the members. Mr. Foster said that if the men are detailed
to the Agency, he will drop the matter at that point. In any event, he will
call me if he needs anything from us on this subject.
17. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Senator William Spong (D. , Va.)
and Thad Murray, Executive Assistant to Senator Spong, concerning a badge
system proposed by a constituent as a substitute for the present passport
system. I told the Senator that our technical people believe the badge he had
given Mr. Maury to be a very good one and quite difficult to alter. In
comparison, the present passport document could be altered somewhat easier.
The Senator asked me to thank Jack Maury on his behalf.
18. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Gave Mr. Stevenson, in Senator Hughes'
((D. , Iowa) office, a draft response to a constituent inquiry.
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