NOTES FROM TOPIC 5 DELEGATION TO USSR

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MINISTRY OF HIGHER AND SPECIALIZED SECONDARY EDUCATION (i^.HE)
Soviet Participants
N. S. Yegorov, Deputy Director
N. '. Ivashchenko, Deputy Chief, Main Department of Higher Education
Institutions
A. K. Kalinin, Chief, Main Department of Scientific Research, MHE
of the RFSSR
V. V. Semin, Deputy Chief, Department of Personnel
A. M. Tsiganenko, Deputy Chief, Department of Instruction and
Methodology
N. L.eoii'f-ye', 0-ea.,13 Psycho1ofy Ficuf f y
The ministry is responsible for control of training of all specialists
in education including those in management. There are several types of
institutions - universities, engineering institutes, medical, agricultural,
etc. Questions of management are taken into account in all. Some univer-
sities are doing management training.
Both the Ministry of Higher and Specialized Secondary Education and
GOSPLAN are looking at long range education policy in cooperation with
other ministries. The State Committee for Science and Technology has a
special institute for high level executives, the Institute of Management
of the National Economy. Also the MHE has one institute concerned
exclusively with training experts who will work in different branches of
industry, the Ozdjonikidze Institute of Management in Moscow (formerly
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the Institute of Engineering and Economics and, as we were told in March,
renamed the Institute of Control and Management).
MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
Soviet Participants
F. M. Volkov, Pro-rector
M. M. Maslov, Pro-rector
A. S. Pankratov, Deputy Pro-rector
M. V. Solodkov, Dean, Economics Faculty
A., N. Tikhonov, Dean, Cybernetics and Applied Mathematics Faculty
The university provides training in nearly all fields (medicine is
lacking, for instance). There are 20,000 full-time day students, 5000
part-time students and 2000 correspondence students. A total of 4500
assistants are being trained. There were last year 3200 specialists from
other institutes in training and 3600 from industry. Full-time students
have a 5-year course of studies; correspondence students have a six year
course. Eighty percent of the students were said to be guaranteed a
stipend.
.There are 3500 teachers and professors on the staff. Of these, 119
are academicians,950 are professors and doctors of science. All staff take
part in research as well as most students. There are several specialized
institutes and many laboratories. Each year 500 books and 8000 articles
are published by the staff.
In reference to the Economics School, there are two principal areas of
concentration. One area includes political economy, history, history of
economics tasks and a wide range of topics in classical political economy.
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It provides a good base for specialization. The second area includes
special courses on state budgets, industry, standard of living, traditional
methods of planning and applications of certain models. Traditional methods
were said to be still in use in spite of all the theoretical work. Models
have, for example, been useful in some cases, e.g., transportaion, but have
not been helpful in social problems. There is no attempt to train engineers
in the economics school.
The Ministry of Higher Education has no contracts with industrial
enterprises.
It was also stated that there was some feeling that the Institute of
the Management of the National Economy (Director, V.G. Shorin) should be under
Moscow State University.
There is a system of economic contacts--a contract with ZIL (the
automobile factory) was mentioned. Currently, there are about 1000 contracts
with enterprises amounting to 23,000,000 rubles.
Academician Tikhonov emphasized that the general-control of management
was not the goal of the university. Specialists are trained in technological
management. On-the-job training is arranged on the basis of 3-year programs.
The programs are different for people from industry with special interests
and for students without such a background. They have tried to stress.
individual training for the people from industry. About 30% is on
fundamentals but with emphasis on recent developments, 30% is on special
courses to increase breadth of view and 30% is for very special topics.
The work is carried out with small groups of 6 to 8 engineers each.
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There is some research on economic control carried out in the
School of Cybernetics and Applied Science. One job completed recently
was for the consumer goods and textile industry. The contracts in
economics with industry often involve large calculations (a second BESM 6)
is being installed in the computer center. Tikhonov mentioned that he has
an article in the Soviet Encylopedia on mathematical models. He is also
involved with industrial contracts on oil drilling research in which it
was mentioned that the scientific foundation and electronic technology are
very much dependent on each other.
There was a reference to special on-the-job training seminars for high-
level executives, for example, the heads of Chairs. This year the heads of
Chairs of numerical mathematics were involved.
A discussion of possible forms of cooperation included seminars, and
exchanges of information. The experience with the Ford Foundation-sponsored
seminars with New York University was mentioned. One possible subject for
exploration might be a study of how scientific/technological systems are
realized in both countries.
MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY (ECONOMICS DEPT)
Soviet Participants
M. V. Solodkov, Dean
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I. P. Faminsky, Deputy Dean
E. Z. Maiminas, Professor
V. N. Bronnikov, Associate Professor
G. N. Zoteev, Associate Professor
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V. M. Yefimov, Senior Lecturer
V. J. Marshev, Senior Research Fellow
A. N. Sobronin, Postgraduate
A. V. Fadeyev, Postgraduate
The Economics Faculty has been assigned responsibility for developing
and implementing the technical program of Topic 5. The Faculty of Economics
was established in 1941 with three main sections: polical economy, manage-
ment and cybernetics. There are 2000 students and 300 are working on
Candidate degrees. The Faculty is organized into 13 departments, most of
which have scientific laboratories. For example, the department of political
economy has a laboratory on important issues of modern capitalism and one
on studies of complex economic issues and conditions of developing
socialism. The management department has a special section for management
in industry, a laboratory for theoretical work and a laboratory on branch
and territorial work.
In regard to the organization of the Economics Faculty, the Dean has
four deputies including one for science, one for international affairs and
one for economics. There is an Administrative Council associated with the
Deants office which includes student representation. It is concerned with
global development of the Faculty.
We visited also the Center for Management Problems within the Economics
Faculty. It is under the overall direction of Popov and cooperates with
many foreign institutions. There are four parts: a laboratory for theory of
management problems (Marshev is associated with this laboratory, a section
on industrial management concerned with branches of industry and regional
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management, a Chair for education under Bronnikov, and a laboratory for
active (i.e. case) studies for training and management games including
interactive approaches. Gvishiani wrote a book on management while at the
Center in its early days. The staff has gone from 8 to 80 since Gvishiani's
time. The student body includes staff specialists for managers at all
levels up to ministers in addition to the usual university students. The
.students go to different enterprises for practice before receiving
diplomas. Some go to ITASA. The university students are in the age
range of 19-23.
Soviet proposals for cooperation under Topic 5 were presented and
included systems of management training, planning and forecasting of
of managerial resources requirements, methods of training, computer
applications to management training and simulation games as tools for high-
level management training.
OZDJONIKIDZE INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT, MOSCOW
G. A..Bryansky, Dean
V. J. Mamontov, Chief of Chair of Computers
I. V. Kuz)oetsov, Doctor of Economic Sciences
I. A. Ivanov, Associate Professor
Dydorian, Head, Chair of Information Management Systems
Soviet Participants
M. A. Bishaev, Pro-rector.
V. S. Rumyantsev, Dean, School of Computer Services
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The director of this institute is Ms. Koslova. This institute was
formerly called.the Institute of Engineering and Economics. At the time
of the visit of the U.S. delegation on educational technology in late
March (under Aufenkamp), Bogomolov (MHE) told us the name.of the institute
had been changed that very week to the Institute of Control and Management.
(Director Koslova was not present in March either Mamontov who had been
on the Soviet delegation to the'U.S. on Topic 5 in December 1974as present
both times) The visit in March had been to the old building in Moscow.
This visit was to the new campus being constructed on the outside of Moscow.
The Pro-rector, Bishaev)said that the institute is primarily a teaching
institute but scientific research is also important. There are two general
thrusts at the institute:
1.) models for the scientific basis of management
2.) methods of preparing case methods
Special attention is given to information systems and modeling.
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Kuznet~ov described some of the philosophy of the institution
in regard to its program in economics. He stressed the need for
theoretical work in the field of systems of management. The different
.aspects of management include the organization and technical side as well
as the socio-economic side. They have the opportunity to cooperate with
. many countries and can use some of the
He indicated that the Soviet system of national economy has
achievements of foreign countries.
which cannot be handled well in foreign countries.
Kuznet'Cov indicated, too, that they were interested in
experiences in top management especially at levels of major
some aspects
departments.
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He is also interested in behavioral theory relating to interactions among
people as it affects the organizational/technical side of management. He
stressed that the work on the technical side of management parallels work
in some other countries but that the work on the socio-economic side has
some differences.
Ivanov discussed general questions of training managers. They try to
train managers to solve problems which can be "formalized." By "formalized"
he said he meant problems which could be solved by computer--the relationship
between "formalized" and "unformalized" problems being most interesting(!)
Bryansky mentioned Ain working out the general principals of
preparation of specialists they take into consideration the characteristics
of the country. Some possible topics for cooperation that he mentioned
included (1) modeling and decision probelms on a national basis as well
as on the regional and branch level, and (2) forms and methods of teaching
(he is preparing a text this year to be published next year). He mentioned,
too, that students prepared case studies.
Mamontov described the curriculum as it related to computers. Students
enter at age 17 and begin to study computing from the first year. They
start with simple computers and from the 2nd and 3rd year work with the
ES series. Some work is of a general nature but students get practice in
special computer centers for about six weeks on problem solving. Term
projects are also assigned and we were shown examples of reports on the
projects.
Professor Rumyantsev who is Dean of the Faculty of Computer Sciences
indictated that computers are not used extensively at the upper division
level--trnly a few hours of practice. They.expect to introduce time-sharing
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computers with the completion of. facilities in a new building. They now
use the NAIRY II and the ES 1020 systems. Languages taught are PL1,
FORTRAN, RPG and assembly.
Dydorian, Head of the Chair of Information Management Systems discussed
four aspects to management information systems (MIS)--organization,
information, technical and mathematical. One software package called SINTEZ
is in operation at the institute. It was said to be similar to a package
called ORGANIZER. Another model (software package) is used for production
schedules and several other models are used in different types of economic
calculations.
He described a course in automated management systems which was in
two parts--(1) principles of elaboration of MIS and (2) modeling MIS. The
mathematics side of MIS also had two parts: (1) creation of mathematical
models of economic calculations and (2) creation of mathematical programs.
Mamontov is responsible for mathematics teaching and Dydorian for instruction
on modeling. .
The data bank problem is considered from several viewpoints which have
both theoretical and practical aspects. There is a special course on the
treatment of economic data based on Glushkov's work.
With the new programs in the institute (which lead to the change in
.the name there is a much wider range of training of specialists. Along
with this new thrust there is a need for creating many new manuals and
text books.
The computer center facilities were also visited which featured the
ES 1020. (A sample of the console printout from the ES 1020 is available).
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PLEKHANOV INSTITUTE OF NATIONAL ECONOMY, MOSCOW.
Soviet Participants
I. G. Popov, Pro-rector (also Chairman of Economics Dept.)
B. I. Iskyakov, Chairman of Department
V. V. Ozira, Chairman of Department (Alumnus of Harvard Business
School)
A. V. Korchagin, Chairman of Department
G. A. Yeremeyev, Chairman of Department
Bolubov, Professor in Ozira's Department
A. K. Kalinin, Chief, Main Dept. of Scientific Research, MHE of RFSSR
The pro-rector described the institute and its programs. The institute
is 68 years old. There are 14,000 students--5,000 day students, 5,000
evening. students and 4,000 correspondence students. There are also special
classes involving 2,000 students. The day students enter at ages 18-19.
There are 5 applicants for each place at the institute.
About. half the students are in the area of trade including topics as
pricing, economic labor, cybernetics, industrial planning, purchasing and
supply, finance, economic commerce and accounting. There is a placement
plan for entering students--apparently a combination of MHE and GOSPLAN
suggestions. Possibilities are made known to the students and the applicants
work out a program with the dean. There is competition on merit.
Representatives (recruiters) of employing organizations come to the
institute to seek out good graduates.
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Ozira described the postgraduate management program. This was
started in 1965 along with some economic reforms. The special 1965 order
created 5 new postgraduate programs, the others located at the Moscow
Institute of Management (Koslova, director), Urals Polytechnical
Institute at Sverdlovsk, Leningrad Industrial Engineering Institute
(Segov, rector) and Kharkov Industrial Engineering Institute. The
emphasis is on industrial management. At Moscow there is an industrial
planning department and people are responsible for topics as planning and
finance. For instance, the State Committee for Purchasing and Supply sends
its executives to the institute for special training. At three of the
other locations there is an emphasis on middle level production management.
There are 11 departments in this special postgraduate management
program and two courses of study in each department. One course of study
is six months in duration involving people in their late 20's to late 30's.
The other course of study is three months in length on advanced management
problems for heads of enterprises or deputies or those in similar positions
in republic planning departments. Students are mainly engineers. There
is an attempt to combine management and economics in the instruction under
the following three topics
1.) origins of industrial planning
2.) supply and purchasing
3.) planning of national economy
there are 200 graduates each year.
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New departments of organization (Industrial Management) are being
established at Gorki, Alma Ata, Tashkent, Baku (specializing in oil) and
Minsk (probably at the institutes of the national economy in these
cities).
There is a total of 600 academic hours over six months including a thesis
on practical applications. The organization supports the costs of its
students and the studentsreturn to their regular jobs at the end of the
program. Students keep their salaries and receive expenses and a field
trip. An overview of the six-month program includes
20 hours - economics
20 hours - planning
30 hours - accounting
20 hours - economic statistics
50 hours - use of mathematics
50 hours - forecasting markets
50 hours - importance of management
100 hours - economic planning (from supply viewpoint only)
20 hours - proble'