JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: October 29, 1971
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Friday - 29 October 1971
4. (Confidential - GLC) Received a call from Rady Johnson,
Assistant to the Secretary of Defense (Legislative Affairs), who said they
had been discussing with Senator Stennis possible action on the Senate
floor with respect to the Foreign Assistance Act which is to be voted on
in the Senate today. Johnson said that Deputy Secretary of Defense Packard
talked briefly with Senator Stennis yesterday.
DOD expects Senator Stennis to offer an amendment to delete all of
Section 512 but they feel the Senator would have difficulty in obtaining the
deletion of all of Section 513 on the Senate floor. DOD has talked to Roy
Bullock, Staff Administrator, House Foreign Affairs Committee, who said
he thought that Committee would be willing to knock out Section 513 when
the bill goes to conference. Johnson said some thought is being given to
asking Senator Stennis to move to delete Laos, South Vietnam, and Cambodia
from Section 513 leaving Thailand, Burma, and North Vietnam subject to
the restrictions of that section.
I told Johnson I thought we would have problems with this and, after
checking with /FE, confirmed that we would not want to see
any action taken in the Senate on a partial deletion which would foreclose
deletion of the entire section by the House Committee in conference. I
passed on comment that leaving Thailand, Burma, and North
Vietnam in the amendment would preclude even such action as possible
raids on opium refineries in some of these areas. I said we would be
opposed to any split deletion as a final measure. Johnson said he understood
and particularly liked comment about drug raids.
5. (Confidential - GLC) Received a call from Stuart French, ISA,
DOD, concerning a letter that Lawrence S. Eagleburger, ISA, has received
from Senator Strom Thurmond urging the declassification of the Penkovskiy
Papers. French said he would like to send the correspondence over to us
for our views and suggestions as to a further answer to Senator Thurmond.
6. (Confidential - GLC) The DDI called to ask if we would prepare
a list of Members of Congress who have had access to compartmented
information. He said a question has been raised about the possibility of
briefing Members and committees who have had access to this information
in connection with SALT developments. I told Mr. Proctor we would have
a list available for him on Monday.
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Thursday - 28 October 1971
10. (Confidential - GLC) Received a call from Rady Johnson,
Assistant to the Secretary of Defense (Legislative Affairs) and his Deputy,
General James Lawrence, inquiring as to what action we were taking with
respect to possible amendments to the Foreign Assistance bill as it was
reported by the Foreign Relations Committee. I told them we had problems
with a number of sections of the bill which were basic policy decision matters
within the Administration and which we understood either Defense.or State
Department were "bird dogging. " (I reviewed briefly with them the specific
sections which gave us trouble as indicated in our spread sheet.) I added,
however, that to avoid becoming involved in these policy matters and running
up the backs of DOD and State in their efforts, we were restricting our
work io the provisions of Section 405(b) of the bill concerning the
responsibility of the State Department and other departments and agencies
in providing the Foreign Relations and Foreign Affairs Committees with
information. I told them of my meetings with Ed Braswell and Jim Woolsey,
of the Senate Armed Services Committee staff, and Senator Stennis' agreement
to introduce the amendment which we had suggested. They felt that our
proposal would satisfy everyone's requirements quite satisfactorily.
General Lawrence mentioned that a meeting had been called in Clark
MacGregor's office for 9:30 this morning and asked if we would be attending.
I told him we had received word the LIG meeting had been canceled and had
not been asked to attend any other meetings in the White House today.
11. (Secret - GLC) Accompanied Messrs. William Parmenter and
25X1A of OCI, to a briefing of Dorothy Fosdick and Charles Horner,
of the staff of the Senate Subcommittee on National Security and International
Operations, .on the situation in India and Pakistan. The meeting went well
and seemed to satisfy their requirements completely.
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Wednesday - 27 October 1971
6. (Unclassified - GLC) Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations
Committee, called and asked me about the status of legislation covering the
funding of RFE and RL. I told him that as he recalled the Senate passed the
bill originally proposed by Senator Case (S. 18) but the Foreign Affairs Com-
mittee, after hearings on the subject, had reported S. 18 with language
substituted by Mr. Fascell which provides for one year of funding of the
Radios by the State Department pending the completion of a study on the
whole subject of support of other similar organizations. I said my last
information was that the this was now pending in the House Rules Committee.
7. (Confidential - GLC) Jim Woolsey, Senate Armed Services Committee
staff, called and said he would like to be brought up-to-date with respect to
the status of intelligence on the Soviet ICBM "holes" sometime the early part
of next week. I told him we would be in touch with him on this.
8. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek,
Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and received
from him a copy of Chairman Hebert's letter of 21 October to Chairman
Dulski, House Post Office and Civil Services Committee, concerning H. R. 11150. STATOTHR
STATOTHR 9. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked to Fran Christy, House
Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee staff, who told me that -
will come before the full Committee tomorrow, 28 October.
She does not anticipate any problems in approval of this bill.
10. (Unclassified - JGO) Talked to Mr, Art Kuhl, Chief Clerk,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and reserved the Committee hearing
room (4221 New Senate Office Building) for 1400 to 1530 Thursday, 28 October,
for use by the Senior Seminar.
11. (Internal Use Only - JGO) I talked to Lynn Harris, in the office
of Representative William Minshall (R. , Ohio), and confirmed with her
Representative Minshall's luncheon with the senior seminar for 12 noon
tomorrow, 28 October, in the Speaker's dining room. I finalized also for
Representative M nsk all h. luncheon arrangements with Mr. Cowan and
Mrs. Leakin, of the House restaurant.
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Wednesday - 27 October 1971
12. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Talked to Mr. Al Westphal, House
Foreign Affairs Committee staff, who told me that the Radios bill, S. 18,
is pending hearing before the Rules Committee. No date has been scheduled
for the hearing.
13. (Confidential - JGO) I accompanied 25X1A
C/EUR Division, to a meeting with. Representative Ogden Reid (R. , N.Y.)
for debriefing on his recent trip to Poland and recent visits by Soviet
representatives to Representative Reid's office. See 25X1A
Memo for Record.
As we were departing, Representative Reid asked if I would get him
the number of Mirage aircraft that have been delivered to Libya. After
25X1A checking with OSR, I advised Miss Edith Wilkie, Legis-
lative Assistant to Representative Reid, that the figure "about 20" which was
suggested by Representative Reid is within the ball park.
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14. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Miss Jean Gordon,
trative Assistant to Representative Charles Gubser (R. , Calif.). and gave
her a suggested reply for Mr. Gubser's use in responding to
25X6 of Palo Alto, California, concerning CIA secret wars. Miss or on was mos 5X6
appreciative.
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CONF{DENTIAL
JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Monday - 25 October 1971
1. (Confidential - GLC) On Saturday, 23 October, I received a
call from Colonel Frank Burdell, DOD/ISA, concerning provisions in the
Foreign Assistance Act (H. R. 9910) having to do with the use of advisors
in Cambodia and the payments of salaries to foreign forces in Cambodia.
25X1A After talking with FE Division, I told Colonel Burdell that
our involvement in Cambodia was quite small and I was not sure we had any
problems with these sections as such but told him I planned to get the bill
and report (which were released on Saturday) and look them over more
closely.
2. (Confidential - GLC) Made arrangements with Alex Schnee,
Congressional Relations Office of, State Department, to obtain a copy of
H. R. 9910 as reported by the Foreign Relations Committee and of the
Committee report (92-404). This bill is scheduled as the pending business
before the Senate on Tuesday, 26 October. Copies of these were run off
and made available to Messrs. Houston, or
their review.
3. (Confidential - GL &e chaired b Mr. Maury and
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reached concerning them for Mr. Maury's guidance in attending a Legislative
Interdepartmental Group meeting in the White House Tuesday morning.
4. (Confidential - GLC) Contact was made with Bill Woodruff,
Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, and Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, regarding the general impact upon the
Agency of the Senate amendments to H. R. 9910. Particular reference was
made to Section 405(b) of the bill which would make the State Department
responsible for keeping the Foreign Relations Committee and Foreign Affairs
Committee "fully and currently informed" regarding the activities of all
departments and agencies. It would require those agencies to provide any
information requested by either of these Committees concerning their
activities and responsibilities. Braswell said he thought Senator Stennis
would be willing to take issue with the jurisdictional aspects of the bill and
suggested we provide the staff with backup material for this purpose and
those papers are being prepared.
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Monday - 25 October 1971
9. (Confidential - GLC) John Lehman, of the White House staff,
called to determine those sections of the bill which were of particular
concern to the Agency. I told him that we were concerned about a number
of sections of the bill as were other members of the Executive Branch,
but we had special problems with Section 405(b) concerning responsibilities
of departments and agencies with respect to the Foreign Relations and
Foreign Affairs Committees and with Section 655 which applied to Cambodia,
the amendment previously placed in the Military Procurement Act by
Symington establishing a ceiling on operations in Laos. It developed that
Lehman did not have a copy of the bill as reported out or of the Committee 25X1A
report and copies of these documents were forwarded to him.
/JOHN M. MAURY
?l Legislative Counsel
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SECRET
JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 26 October 1971
1. (Confidential - JMM) Attended a LIG meeting at the White House
where the Okinawan treaty and amendments to the Foreign Aid bill were
discussed. See Memorandum for the Record.
2. (Unclassified - JMM) Miss Karen Kay, of Senator Ernest Hollings'
(D. , S. C.) office, said she had been unable to confirm with the Senator his
availability to talk to our Senior Seminar some time Thursday, 28 October,
but would let us know as soon as possible.
3. (Unclassified - JMM) Called Darrell St. Claire, Chief Clerk of
the Senate, who confirmed his availability to speak to our Senior Seminar
if Senator Hollings was unavailable.
4. (Confidential - JMM) George Berdes, on the staff of the Sub-
committee on National Security Policy and Scientific Developments of
House Foreign Affairs Committee, called to confirm the request that
Mr. Duckett brief the Subcommittee on the Soviet strategic situation at
10 a. m. on 4 November in Room 2255 of the Rayburn Building. Berdes
said that in accordance with our request they were sending personal notes
to the members rather than announcing a formal Subcommittee hearing.
5. (Secret - JMM) Met with Senator Milton Young (R., N. D.) and
alerted him to our concern over a number of amendments to the Foreign
Aid bill. He said he would be glad to do what he could for us and mould let
me know if he wanted further details.
I briefed Senator Young on recent developments regarding Soviet
ICBM and ABM programs, submarine construction, advanced aircraft,
India/Pakistan situation, and the still unclear picture regarding China.
Senator Young mentioned that he had attended a Republican caucus
this morning where resentment towards some of our former allies ran so
high over the eviction of the Chinese Nationalists from the UN that the
whole Fbreign Aid bill was threatened.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 20 October 1971
1. (Confidential - JMM) Senator Peter H. Dominick (R., Colo.)
called to say he would appreciate a briefing on Soviet strategic weapons,
particularly naval capabilities and naval construction, but also including
offensive and defensive missiles and developments in the Cuban area.
OSR, will give the briefing at 3:00 p.m. tomorrow,
21 October, in the Senator's office.
2. (Confidential - JMM) Representative Peter Frelinghuysen
breakfasted with Agency officers concerned with South Asia and reported
on his impressions from recent travels to India and Pakistan. r..
3. (Confidential - JMM) Talked to Mr. George Berdes, on the
staff of the Subcommittee on National Security Policy and Scientific Develop-
ments of House Foreign Affairs Committee, and explained that we would
be glad to provide the briefing on the Soviet strategic situation requested
by Chairman Zablocki for his Subcommittee. I said, in accordance with
established ground rules, the briefing would have to be unofficial--not a
formal session of the Subcommittee; that it would be strictly "off the record,
with no transcript or attribution; and that under these conditions we could
provide material on a top secret basis. Berdes assured me that he and any
other staff members who may attend would have top secret clearances. He
said the briefing was in connection with current hearings on the SALT talks,
and I explained that we would have to stick to the Soviet strategic situation
and not get into any policy matters regarding SALT. This Berdes agreed to.
He said a similar briefing by Mr. Duckett had been well-received and he
hoped Mr. Duckett would be available this time, tentatively scheduled for
10:00 a.m., Thursday, 4 November.
4. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Delivered a copy of the book "Water
on the Brain" by Compton McKenzie on loan for Mr. Russ Blandford, House
Armed Services Committee staff, and Chairman Nedzi, Intelligence Subcommittee.
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Monday - 18 October 1971
8. (Confidential - JMM) Mr. Roy Bullock, Staff Administrator,
House Foreign Affairs Committee, _called to say that Chairman Clement
Zablocki of the Subcommittee on National Security Policy and Scientific
Developments, would like a briefing on the Soviet strategic situation similar
to the one given the year before last by Mr. Duckett. Bullock said that
Chairman Morgan, of the full Committee, was agreeable to any way we
handled it, but suggested we make sure that we give Zablocki's Subcommittee
the same kind of treatment we recently gave the Hamilton Subcommittee.
Bullock said Mr. Hamilton apparently was well pleased with the briefing
his Subcommittee had received.
9. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Mr. Charles Whitley, Adminis-
trative Assistant to Representative David Henderson (D. , N. Car. ), who told
me that the Aycock case has been settled administratively by the Department
of Army and thanked me for such assistance as the Agency might have provided
in review of the case. See Journal items of 19 March and 20 April 1971.
10. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Received a call from Russ Blandford,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who asked if we could
locate a copy of a book titled "Water on the Brain" which is pre-World War II
by a British author, he believed, The book was mentioned by Mr. Packard,
DOD, in meeting with the Intelligence Subcommittee during the week last
week. After checking I told him we would have a copy for loan to him in a
day or so.
11. (Confidential ?- JGO) Met with Mr. Garner J. Cline, House
Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee, who told me that the report
has not yet been issued on 'TATOTHR
also said that appropriate contact will be made with the official objectors
prior to the time that this bill reaches the floor of the House.
12. (Confidential - JGO) Met separately with Mr. Richard Barton
and Mr. Robert Lockhart, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee staff,
and reviewed with them the draft amendment to H. R. 11150 concerning annual
reports by agencies otherwise exempt from the bill which was prepared for
Representative Udall's (D., Ariz.) use at the meeting of the full Committee
scheduled for this Thursday, 21 October. Mr. Lockhart gave me a copy of the
revised draft that has been reviewed with Representative Udall. Mr. Lockhart
suggested that it would be well to discuss Agency objections to the proposed
amendment with Mr. Martiny, Chief Counsel of the Committee, on his return
to the city on Wednesday afternoon.
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Monday - 18 October 1971
13. (Confidential - JGO) I received a call from Miss Llona Modly,
Press Secretary to Representative Lawrence Hogan (R. , Md. ), who told me
that Representative Hogan had received a copy of the proposed amendment
concerning annual reporting of agencies otherwise exempt from H. R. 11150
and that he would appreciate our comments on the amendment for his use
prior to Committee meeting scheduled for Thursday, 21 October.
14. (Internal Use Only - JGO) Met with Louise O'Brien, House
Foreign Affairs Committee staff, and received from her a copy of Repre-
senative Peter Frelinghuysen's (R. , N. J.) itinerary for his recent trip
to India and Pakistan.
15. (Unclassified - JGO) In response to a call from the Committee
staff, I picked up a letter from House Foreign Affairs Committee mail desk
addressed to Mr. Maury.
16. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. James Wilson, House Science
and Astronautics Committee staff, and briefed him on the following items:
Salyut and Lunar 19.
17. (Confidential - JGO) Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House Armed
Services Committee staff, and reviewed with him a draft letter concerning
H. R. 11150 to Chairman Dulski, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee,
from Chairman Hebert. Mr. Slatinshek made several suggested changes and
asked that we clean the draft up for him.
Mr. Slatinshek told me, in passing, that the first conference meeting
on the Military Procurement bill, H. R. 8687, will be scheduled in the next
couple of days and suggested that any comments we might have should be 25X1A
forwarded to the Committee at that time.
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