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FOR THE ftECORD
SUBJE Meeting of the F' IAPS Panel on Intelligence Activities
of CIA
1. This morning Mr. and I attended a
nseting of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Panel
on Intelligence Activities of CIA., which consisted of General
Maxwell Taylor, Chairman. and Ambassador Robert Murphy.
Meson). Coyne and Ash were also present. I opened the
meeting with a review of the organisation of CIA. We began
with a discussion of the role of the reputy Director of the
Agency, pointing out that the Preeident'e letter of 16 January
1162 had instructed the Da to delegate. Insofar as possible, his
responsibility for the management of the Agency in order to free
himself to discharge his coordinating responsibility. General
Taylor asked whether legal authority existed for a complete
delegation in this respect. He was assured that such authority
existed, including the authority to delegate the certification of
funds as expended for confidential purposes. On the other hand.
practical obstacles existed to the complete delegation of responsi-
bility. The DCI would continue to wish to respond to Presidential.
Congressional and other inquiries concerning operational, sub-
stantive and budgetary activities of the Agency end would continue
to wish to be inforn td about and influence the development of the
Agency's programs and budget.
pointed out that one of the organizational developitLents
of the past three years, designed to strengthen the central manage-
ment 0 the Agency, was the creation of an independent Comptroller s
office, with program review and approval responsibilities and the
ultimate merger of this responsibility with that a the Executive
Director. Some conversation followed concerning the precise role
and responsibility of the Executive r irector. I described this office
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as being the third in line of executive authority but discharging
functions comparable to those normally associated with a chief
of staff. I said that Col. White would probably be reluctant to
reject a proposal involving operational or substantive judgments
which had the positive support of an individual Deputy Director
without consultation with the DCX or the statutory Deputy. I also
said that ha would probably be reluctant, on his own authority, to
transfer substantial amounts of funds from one directorate to
another over the objection of a Deputy Director. Very clearly,
the Executive Director is responsible for ensuring proper
staffing; for screening issues presented to the DCI or DDCI
and the development of alternatives, etc. There was some
discussion as to whether the title of this position was exactly
right. but General Taylor and Ambassador Murphy both seemed
to agree with the function.
3. We discussed the location of the Board of National
Estimates and described its function. Mr. Coyne stated that the
Board had at one time been located under the DDI and said that
consideration was being given to the desirability of relocating it.
General Taylor felt that the fact that the Board appeared to
report to the Director of CIA was perhaps a defect as it seemed
to give CIA two votes on an estimate. This led to a further dia.
cussion of the role of the DCI in the community. General Taylor
raising old arguments favoring the transfer of the DX2 to some
Independent location. He wanted to know whether there were legal
obstacles to such an arrangement and Mr. Coyne advised him that
legislative action of some sort would be required. I pointed out
the practical disadvantages, stressing the fact that in the
estimating process a DCI, divorced from the Board of National
Estimates and from an estimating staff, would be helpless and
ignorant.
4. We passed on to a brief review of DMA'. Mr. Coyne
asked for my opinion as to whether 031 should be relocated in the
DDI. I said that there were strong arguments both ways and
personalities inevitably played a part in determining the best
location. I pointed out that estimates on important subjects
having technical or scientific implications, such as estimates
of nuclear capabilities or developments in various countries. are
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prepared by the Board of Estimates. Therefore, while OSI
is a substantive intelligence component, and therefore perhaps
not appropriately located in a unit having responsibilities in
the collection field. it does not hays responsibility for final estimates.
Moreover, it seemed to me that substantive questions involving
technical and scientific data are best presented and understood by
an official with scientific and technical competence. The DDS1ET
seems to me the appropriate individual, at the DCI staff meeting
or on other comparable occasions, to speak about space and missile
events, etc. U this is true, it would seem to follow that he should
have staff support from a staff component such as OS!; On the
other hand1 there are strong logical reasons for locating OSI in
the DDI.
5. Mr.I then explained the organization of
the Clandestine Services and the procedures involved in the
initiation and approval of Fl projects. General Taylor wanted to
process. This led to a discussion of the role of the Ambassador
and of the State Department in connection with the review and
approval of CIA programs and activities in particular countries.
Mr. said that the level and type of activity was
discussed with the Ambassador in considerable detail, although
he might and probably would not know all about specific individual
operations.
6. It was agreed that we would give the Board a copy
of the Nolting Report as a study of the requirement and reporting
process. It was also agreed that we would provide Mr. Coyne.
for the benefit of General Taylor and Ambassador Murphy, with:
a. A few RboiDs and records of the approval
process as it actually works in specific countries;
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c. A paper on espionage with specific
reference to the problem of deep cover.
JOHN A. BROSS
D/DCl/NIPE
cc: DDCI
ExDir ...Comptroller
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