CABLE TO FBIS LONDON FROM FBIS WASHDC

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• Publication Date: August 28, 1975
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REF LD158 ON SOURCELINE STANDARDIZATION,
lo CONCENSUS HERE IS THAT *LOCATIO4ISCLOSED" OR SIMILAR TERM
DOES NOT CLEARLY INDICATE TO CONSUMER THAT THE STATION IS ENGAGED IN
ILLEGAL OR UNAUTHORIZED BROADCASTS.
ito THE DEFINITION FOR TRANSMITTERS IN THE CLANDESTINE CATEGORY WAS
CAREFULLY WORKED OUT AND COORDINATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY MANY YEARS
AGO, AND THE TERM CLANDESTINE IS NOV SYNONYMOUS IN CONSUMERS' MINDS
FOR ANY RADIO OPERATION THAT IS ILLEGAL, UNAUTHORIZED, TARGETED
AGAINST THE EXISTING AUTHORITY IN THE COUNTRY OR AREA, AND SPEAKS
OR PRETENDS TO SPEAK FOR A DISSIDENT, ILLEGAL OR EXILED GROUP, OR
FOR A SELF...STYLED GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO CONE UP WITH
A DIFFERENT TERM THAT COVERS THIS SPECTRUM AS WELL AS CLANDESTINE.
3, THEREFORE, WE PREFER CONTINUED USE OF THIS TERM IN THE
SOURCELINE. WE DO AGREE, HOWEVER, THAT ITS PLACEMENT SHOULD BE
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Remarks:
attached is draft
on use of clandestine
in the sourceline'. it is based on attached
corments of hqs components0 we are in basic
agreement that staixlarization group's proposal
to drop clandestine will not do0 the substitute
does not indicate to consumer that the station
is illegal or unauthorized broadcaster, none of
us can come up with a better term than clandesti
that will indicate this fact to a consumer, the
term is also accepted as the definitive one for
this t7pe of activity in most people's minds. e
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Since the working .roup is proposing new sourcelines for "clandestine"
transmitters, I asume there must be some substance to its arru ent.
mesage says the troup felt "clandestine" is too strong to describe
most of today's transmitters, but, unfortunately, he rave no examples.
Chuck's point is well taken: we should try to call things by their
riiht mites; and if a radio is secret and Metal we should let the
reader know. Perhaps one solution vould be to use both categories--
"clandestine" for radios that clearly fall into the "secret" caterfory
and surgested substititions for all others. This might precipitate
a debate vith BBC over which radios fall into what catetories, but it
irht be worth the effort if we end up with more inf. motive, precise
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the apparent object of this whole exercise.
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Agree with Ed that it's difficult to assess BBC's objection to
term "clandestine" as being "too strong" for most transmitters
today when the specifics aren't provided. Perhaps BBC feels that
these radios have been on the air so many years that they've gained
some sort of legitimacy. This would be strange logic, since the
radios' basic purpose and raison dletre (to subvert the governments
in power) remains the same.
I think use of the descriptions "location unknown" and "location
unstated" would entail, initially, a lengthy argument over which
of the two would apply to specific stations and thereafter endless
hassles over nismidmin proposed changes from one category to the other.
There also could be many consumer queries, some of which we might
not be able to answer for security reasons (our pinpointing the
location of a clandestine transmitter might be classified information)
couldn't include a
the various elements V''
definition of the term
"clandestine." This information might be useful to a lot of
consumers. (I'll never forget the time a consumer called the DR
to ask whether "Our Radio" meant the Voice of America!)
I wonder if the inside front cover of the
brief description of FIS sou celines?wh
mean?which could incorporate
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Remarks:
I like Dick's idea of an explanation of
"clandestine." It's true that all these radios
aren't necessarily illegal, strictly speaking.
That is, there isn't anything illegal about
a station located in Kunming going on the open air
with broadcasts to Burma. But the stations do
inply or purport to be something they aren't.
Ile could well get into difficulties trying to
explain to a consumer not privy to classified infc
why "location unknown" got changed to "location
uhs-cated" in a given case. :le should have one
siLlple word to categorize the whole group, and I
can't think of amrtliina better than "clans1P 21- i np ..
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((location uninown)) bayrak rad ho in english to cyprus
(location unknown) bayrak radio in english to cyprus
(location unstated) voice of the people of thailand in thai to thailand
(location unstated) radio pathet lap in lao to laos
the sourcelines above represent variations of the new sourceline format for
clandestine stations proposed by the bbc-fbis standardization group. we have
been asked to comment on them per message (attached). *kw= to me,
they are not acceptable for one major reason: they do not clearly indicate that
the transmitter is engaged in unauthorized, illegal broadcasting against a
certain country or area. this is the most important thing about a clandestine
transmitter and it must be made clear to the reader, the problem is that i
cannot think of a better word than clandestine to describe such an operation.
lesser words (if you think clandestine is too strong) are bland and possibly
confusing. if someone can come up with the right word, then loll law it. but
until then, i favor retention of clandestine in the sourceline: placement of
the word could go at the beginning of the sourceline to highlight this fact
and serve as a substitute for the normal location element, thus, the above
soul-alines would read:
(clandestine) bayrak radio in english to cyrpus
(clandestine) voice of the people of thailand in thai to thailand
(clandestine) radio pathet lao in lao to laos
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