AL-QADHDHAFI SPEAKS ON MOBILIZATION

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V. 15 Jan 86 NORTH AFRICA
ALGERIA
Diplomat Killed in Fighting in Aden
NC142026 Paris AFP in English 2010 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] Algiers, Jan 14 (AFP) -'An Algerian 'diplomat, killed in
Aden during fighting between partisans and opponents of South
'Yemeni President "Ali. Nasir Muhammad, was identified by
official sources'here today as embassy Attache Lassal Hocine.
Mr Hocine was killed when fire between the warring factions hit
his home, the sources said. They said the Algerian Embassy was
located in the combat zone but that no other members of the
diplomatic staff had been hurt.
There was no other reaction to the fighting in South Yemen,
which broke out yesterday.
Prime Minister Meets Soviet Forestry Chief
LD132359 Algiers Domestic Service in French
2200 GMT 13 Jan 86
[Text] Prime Minister Abdelhamid Brahimi today received
Zverev, chairman of the Soviet State Committee for Forestry,
who is leading a delegation on an official visit to Algeria.
The talks dealt with bilateral relations and the prospects for their
development, especially in the sphere of forestry:
Agriculture Minister Receives Lebanese Counterpart
LD140053 Algiers Domestic Service in French
2200 GMT 13 Jan 86
[Text] Mr Kasdi Merbah,' minister of agriculture and fishing,
received Mr'Adil'Usayran',.the Lebanese minister of national
defense'and agriculture.
During the meeting, relations between the two countries were
discussed, especially, in the' field of agriculture, as well as the
different possibilities for developing cooperation in this area.
Al-Qadhdhafi Speaks on Mobilization
LD141919 Tripoli Television Service in Arabic
1830 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Statement by. Libyan leader Mu'ammar al- adlidhafi at the
Basic People's Congress. of Shari al Za-wiyah i Tripoli - live]
[Text]'Good evening. First,'we'greet the Basic People's Congress
of Shari' al-Zawiyah. I will take the opportunity of my presence
at this Congress to address all the congresses through it. I will be
making certain remarks.
From my following of the work of the congress meeting these
days, alongside the cries of defiance and unparalleled preparation
for confrontation and death. [sentence as heard] But we should
not deceive ourselves [words indistinct].
It is easy for us to send cables from the halls of congresses and
chant slogans of death to America and all enemies. But our
slogans must be turned into actions. So far, all the congresses
have uttered cries of defiance. I am speaking here of the Libyan
people's congresses and not the national congresses, to which God
willing, I will speak tomorrow.
The military battle that was about to take, place a few days ago
has now been abandoned to a great extent, but.we must expect
its likelihood at any time. As far as the masses are concerned, the '
battle, if it takes place, would most likely be in the sea tens or
hundreds of miles away from the land. The masses might not be
[words indistinct].
But this does not refute the importance and the necessity of the
comprehensive popular mobilization on land, because the battle
might move from the sea to land. If, for instance, U.S. troops
landed on Libyan soil, then the Libyan soil must burn under their
feet. [words indistinct] the role of the masses in resistance on land
against the enemy.
As for the battle that was about to take place at the beginning of
January, and which might take place at any moment, I say that
most probably it will be at sea. It is a battle for the Air Force and
the Navy more than it is a land battle or a battle for any other
forces. Another thing is the possibility of the participation of the
air defense forces in such a battle. Those who should be prepared
for fighting are the Air Force, the Navy and the air defense
forces.
The strategic defense forces of the armed people, who belong to
these sectors of the Armed Forces, are the ones who should be
prepared for fighting using these military means: the Air Force,
Navy, and air defenses.
I want a turning point to occur in the confrontation; a move
toward action. First, all trained Libyans who are mobilized in the '
Air Force, the naval forces, and air defense forces are required
to be ready to carry out what is asked of them -= even now before
the battle takes place. .
Suppose that there exist teams operating these military means
and that these teams become exhausted, tired from their state of
readiness in the past few days. They must be relieved by other
means of conscripts; each group of teams should be relieved by
other teams. Each group will go on duty for hours,.or days or
weeks, according to the timetable worked out for them.
But there should not be anyone mobilized in the Air Force or the
naval forces or the air defenses who chants with us in the
congresses, or who takes part in the writing of a telegram to
brother so and so. Then, if we should ask him to operate a missile
or a radar or a naval unit, or work in an air base we would find
that he would try to avoid this, believing that he had discharged
his duties just by chanting in the basic people's congresses. No,
this would in fact be treason; we would be betraying ourselves
and our future. [words indistinct]
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First, all these teams must be ready. Naturally, I am not issuing
orders, because orders will be issued by the quarters in charge of
direct control of the mobilized force; but I give warnings, remarks
and general directives. I mean that in this move toward action,
all the conscripts belonging to the Air Force, the naval forces and
the air defenses must be ready. We must willingly accept a state
of readiness. This is the real challenge, which is stronger than
submarines, warships,' gunboats, destroyers [words indistinct]:
Then, a fresh group will, come to relieve us.
This way [word indistinct] the airforce and air defenses. After
that [words indistinct] the national *military service [word indis-
tinct] the requirements of the challenge, we should be sure that
they would return immediately to their places of work and the
units to which they are [word indistinct] soldier and the. enemy is
coming [words indistinct] why do you make him, [word indistinct),
even desertion, and remain afraid at his mother's place or at his
grandfather's, [words indistinct], confronting America or the
Israelis, because the largest force on earth is against the freedom
pf the peoples.
Imperialism and Zionism are both united against the Libyan
people. [word indistinct] All the peoples of the world'stood.by the
Libyan people, because the Libyan people are a small people who
are the victims of the largest Zionist imperialist force on earth,
an internationally known force of aggression united in a dirty role
against a small people, against the Libyan people.
[Words indistinct] the Libyans who belong to certain units, and
perhaps they are absent from these units or deserted. This is
[words indistinct]. It might be appropriate to present a list and
statistics. But, they said to me [words indistinct] the house of his
mother, or the house of his aunt or the house of [words indistinct].
[Passage indistinct]
The battle, naturally, requires land mobilization on which the
land and Air Force and the air defense forces'that might take
part in the battle. Thus, it is our duty to prepare to create this
solid ground [words indistinct].
There is yet another battle that was declared, which is now. rife.
It is an economic battle. The military chapter has been retreated
from to some extent. But the chapter has now' opened on the
economic battle [words indistinct]. '
When the U.S. President adopted these presidential decisions a
few days ago, he actually declared a state bf.national emergency
throughout the United States. The state of 'national' emergency
is usually declared when U.S. national, security is.'exposed 'to
danger or when its foreign policy is exposed to danger.
Imagine: U.S. national security and its foreign policy are
exposed to danger, i.e. threatened by the Libyan danger, and. so
a state of national emergency was declared in the'United States.
On the basis of this, the U.S. President assumes the power to issue
these decisions which he calls' presidential decisions; i.e., deci-
sions that do not have to be submitted'to'the U.S. Congress.'
Consequently, these decisions are decisions made by him by
virtue of his authority as President under the state of national
emergency. '
The U.S. President proclaimed a state of national emergency and
said that U.S. policy throughout the world has been threatened
by the Libyan danger and that U.S. national security has been
threatened by the Libyan danger.
He means by this that U.S. citizens are threatened everywhere
because of Palestinian actions that are supported by Libya -
according to his explanation - and that America's fleets and
bases are threatened in the Mediterranean and Europe; and that
America is facing confrontation in the Gulf of Sidra and he. wants
to consider the Gulf of Sidra open; but since he faces opposition
in. the Gulf of Sidra, then there is. confrontation.
[word indistinct] When a U.S. citizen is killed anywhere by
Libyan weapons; even if these weapons are. in the hands of a
Palestinian or anyone else, Libya is considered to have committed
an aggression against the United States by its own Armed. Forces.
Just look at the explanation he has given.
We are now fighting a. battle, but it is not a military battle these
days. It is an economic battle. Thus, the Libyan people are now
fighting an economic battle. The Libyan people must wage this
battle with the same weapon, i.e., the economic weapon.
The point is that America has not just launched warnings,
articles, chants. Obviously, they always sarcastically mention
this about us in their press, reports and statements. But America
has taken practical economic steps. We should not say: ' Down
with these decision! Down with Reagan! Reagan is this or that!
To hell with America!
No, we must take material steps; each individual, each congress,
each municipality throughout the Jamahiriyah must take eco-
nomic steps in order to respond to the same weapon with which
the U.S. enemy is fighting us. Imagine! We are now asking the
Arabs to take countermeasures; economic countermeasures to
the U.S. measures.
We are asking all the world to support us. in this. And even
Western Europe has said that it cannot enter into an economic
battle alongside Reagan since there .are common interests
between it and Libya! What. about the Libyan citizen then, and
the Libyan Basic People's Congress, the Libyan village, every
Libyan municipality! What will `their position be, now that we
are even' asking the Arabs and the world to take economic
measures against- America. We must be at the forefront; we must
pay the price first and foremost, and wage the battle in ' the
forefront.
How can I express this? There are,general situations where we,;
take to production in a collective manner. We have already,;,,
discussed this: 'There must be mass action, organized collective
work, shift work. This must be implemented, 'precisely imple-
mented. But there are other things - details are not everything,
but we (?stress-them) so as not tofall into generalities.
One can. speak, of comprehensive mobilization, volunteer work,
collective work, organized collective work, shift work; and after
entering the economic battle and .facing 'the economic battle,
somebody might say: What do these things mean?
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Well, concerning the security and military aspects, I have said
that those absent may join. Legal proceedings against them may
be dropped if they join, providing they have patriotism and come
at the time of need.
As soon as the statistics show how many are lost [word indistinct]
how many have joined after that. So that we can consider those
who joined as patriots, and those who were absent as cowards and
hirelings of colonialism.
The notes in this concern are just reflections and are not every-
thing. [words indistinct] a price for water and electricity and
telephones. [word indistinct] is treason. How can you say "rasp-
berry to America" while America imposes economic sanctions on
you? Even the word sanctions is a strong word. Sanctions! Can
America sanction us? Are we slaves so that America punishes
us? Also do not forget that the [word indistinct] is yours and your
budget and treasury from which you buy bullets and build a
school, hospital, road, and buy weapons.
The glory of Libya should not be paid as a price for electricity or
a. price for light. [Word indistinct] what is in the past, but now,
since we are in a battle, everyone should test his patriotism, he
and his family. They should look at each other with confidence
- and not have to avoid looking, each other in the eye because
they feel that they are void of patriotism and are very ashamed
of themselves, such as: How can we talk and say such things,
then here is the electricity meter is out of order, and we owe a
telephone bill which we have not paid, and we have not paid the
water bill to the municipality. I ask Libyans to test their patrio-
tism. All these debts that they owe they should pay.
All the landowners for whom society has reclaimed land should
pay the installments they owe. [passage indistinct] do not do
anything from your salary or your from your income from the
farm. Settle simple things. There are large incomes from the
farms, which have already reclaimed and handed to the people,
especially in al-Jabal.al-Akhdar and other projects.
The Libyan people as a whole allocated a budget and gave you a
farm. Therefore, you have to pay for it gradually within 15 or 20
years. You start to pay gradually. [word indistinct] in 1986, one,
two, three, or four installments would have been paid, according
to his patriotism and his ability as well, so that we find in the
treasury some millions which were not there and which we did
not expect. We find these millions because the economic battle
[word indistinct] will find us [words indistinct].
The economic battle has its weapons. How do you enter the
economic battle against the United States? You enter it by
paying your telephone bills, your electricity bills, your water bills,
your fees to the farm, the taxes you owe to the cooperative. If you
have a private workshop, you pay the duty pertaining to it.
This is the weapon. The United States has issued economic
decisions. How would you fight her. Do you fight here by the gun
or by chants? They have deprived you of this glory by saying: We
will not fight with the gun. What, then, is the weapon you enter
the economic battle with?
We tell you the weapon that can destroy America is [words
indistinct] you give to the municipality. We must think rationally.
[words indistinct] You are rational people so that the world would
respect us and side with us and so that the Arab nation may
support us and adopt economic measures against America.
But when they see that even the Libyans themselves have not
taken economic measures against America and have not even
settled the accounts owed them .... Even without war and without
confrontation, you must settle your accounts out of patriotism,
civilization, and progress. You have a house, you live in a town,
and you are provided with services and utilities. So you must pay
for them. This is more so in the case of confrontation. It is not a
confrontation among equals. It is a confrontation with a super-
power, as they call it.
You should deposit your salary in the bank instead of putting it
in your pocket. There is a thousand million in the pockets of the
Libyans. This money should be returned to the bank. If we
deposit 500*million, 700 million, 800 million, or 900 million -
we must return them to the bank. Anything you have, you must
place in the bank. Place your salary in the bank. Then take out
of it what you need.
These banks are yours. This is your Jamahiriyah. This is your
[word indistinct]. If the banks are [words indistinct], the banks
are the last thing that give comfort. We must rid ourselves of the
old mentality: This country is ours or this bank is ours [words
indistinct]. Place your money in the bank. Form guards from the
armed people to guard the banks and set up shifts even inside the
bank. Thus, the safes in which we place our money will not be
touched by anyone or be stolen.
[Passage indistinct] To place our salaries in our pockets and then
thumb our noses at Americas is not correct. Why should a
thousand million be placed in the pockets of the people? Return
some millions to the bank, so we may remain strong before the
world [words indistinct]. How did their reserves increase? How
did the funds in their banks increase? How did their treasury
grow? They took it from their pockets and placed it in the
treasury.
We have taken money from our pockets and put it in our treasury.
He who has patriotism enters the combat, and the rest are like
the stray dogs who are collaborating with U.S. intelligence, on
behalf of Muslim Brotherhood, on behalf of the Ba'thists, law-
yers, entrepeneurs, democrats; all these names. An American
intelligence officer is now assigned to them. He has taken charge
of the Libyan Muslim brothers of whom you have heard and
whom you know; he has taken the Libyan Ba'athists, Libyan
monarchists, runaway entrepreneurs and middlemen, and drop-
out students. They collaborate with U.S. intelligence against
their own country! [words indistinct], hence we call them stray
dogs. If we find them abroad we kill them; if they come here, we
throw them in the streets; we treat them as dogs. If one wants to
be a dog; they are dogs, God preserve you. They are stray dogs;
this is the correct name that suits them. They feed on the bones
of American and Israeli leftovers.
I am saying that he who`betrays himself and becomes a traitor
must go. (?A handful) would have betrayed. But he who is in the
battle, who sees it as his own battle, a challenge, and wants to
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affirm his own existence, must take to this sound direction.
[words indistinct].
We have 500 girl students directed to attend the military col-
leges, but they have failed to join in. At this moment, while I am
speaking, they are at their homes. Perhaps their parents are
members of popular organizations, who say: I Challenge!
and: To Hell With America! We say to them: no need for
challenge! Just allow your daugher to join the military college,
since she has been directed to study there! She has not been the
only one directed to go there! She has been directed to go there
together with 500 other girls. And next year another 500 should
be directed to go to military college.
At these congresses there must be a decision on equality between
men and women regarding orientation toward military colleges
and military service. This is the clause that should figure on the
agenda of the people's congresses at this stage. We have con-
gresses that have decided that girls should not be directed to
attend military colleges, or to military secondary schools from
preparatory schools just like boys! This is a great deficiency, a
mistake.
This does not mean that there is austerity, or belt-tightening, as
you may hear. This is not true. We are not in a state of austerity.
If austerity comes, then we would say so, effectively.
(?These are directives); I assume my responsibility. Who says
that when a girl enters the military colleges she will be worse off!
On the contrary. She or he who enters the military college and
he or she who enters the military secondary school are the ones
who will be trained and taught a trade, and will be respectable
and important and able to fight and able to work and will obtain
military honors, as they say. They are different from those who
remain sitting on their cushions and escape from confrontation,
similar to the [word indistinct] who walk in the streets. [words
indistinct] there was patriotism in the Libyan people in the
confrontation.
Tomorrow I will bring back the 500 and let them join the colleges,
and the following year another 500 will join, and the following
year 1000, and the following year 2000. After a few years we will
find that we have gone beyond these formalities, which we will
laugh at in the future. There are no more [word indistinct].
The state of the masses means the state of the masses. The masses
are masses. It is irrelevant if you are male of female. We are not
interested in this. We are interested in the masses. The masses
are masses. For instance we present a popular citizen. To be male
or female - this is a characteristic with which we have nothing
to do. How can we inspect and say to her: You cannot go there,
and to him: You area male who cannot enter [words indistinct].
This is all reaction and backwardness and has nothing to do with
the revolution and confrontation. This will weaken the confronta-
tion with America.
It should be decided in these congresses that the women should
given directions similar to men. There is austerity and tightening
of belts, some people are shouting. This is not true. We are not
in a state of austerity, because if there really were a state of
austerity we would say that we have to tighten the belts, but
neither America nor the economic crisis nor all the bad things
that have hit the world and affected it and brought a number of
countries to their knees - We, God be praised, were not affected,
and we have not reached any of those difficult stages.
There is no need for tightening the belts and for restricting
ourselves to the necessities. On the contrary - we are in a
situation in which we use luxuries - we are not forced to one
kind of luxury. There is no hardship that would make us call for
austerity. There is no austerity [words indistinct]. On the con-
trary, perhaps, there are increases in salaries and there are loans
for the citizens so that they can become independent. We will
discuss that in later papers. There is a chance that the banks will
give loans to the people if they are really ready for hard work.
It is not necessary to tighten your belt; do not tighten your belt.
Ease your belt, but roll up your sleeves and you will get it. They
can give you a loan; they might even increase your salary, because
this salary is used for your family. Since you dispensed with much
of the foreign workforce, part of it will provide the Libyans with
increases and raises and loans.
The last word on this page: We can try the [word indistinct] of
the armed people. We can start applying it, as we have talked
about it last time. We can start with 50,000 Libyans now to hold
the weapons, and those who were holding the weapons before go
to work. After a month or two, another 50,000 Libyans would
come and hold the weapons and the first 50,000 go back to work.
We can develop it - 100,000 hold the weapons for a month or
month and a half or 2 months, and the rest go to work, after 2
months another 100,000 replace them. Every time you widen the
training, the number increases: 100,000 and 150,000, 200,000,
quarter of a million and half a million untill we reach a million.
Let us start, if the Libyans are really serious, without cheers and
slogans. The issue is really a national issue and an issue of
confrontation, if you are taking it seriously.
Let us then begin with real material actions. I admire some
initiatives - I heard from the various municipalities and the
People's Committees and the basic people's congresses that they
had filled the blood banks, opened crash nursing training courses,
volunteered for nursing work, and they carried out measures.
These are practical steps that deserve gratitude. This positive
guidance, of course [words indistinct]
The battle at sea, this does not mean that they will be shelling
the whole. The ship, which is in the high sea, can shell a city like
Tripoli and will not shell any other place. The aircraft which take
off from their bases in America, Europe and aircraft carriers raid
[words indistinct], but you as an infantry soldier or the masses in
general do not fight a ship that is 200 km away, shelling us with
its missiles.
But the destruction [words indistinct] or the bombs, or the dead,
or the wounded, or the fires will be [words indistinct] on Libyan
soil. [words indistinct] they are at sea but shelling Libyan soil.
One who hears the words sea battle understands that the action
will take place at sea. It means sea and land, From the sea they
shell camps, factories, communications, cities, bases. People die,
fires break out. Here the preparation, I admire this preparation
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of which I was told, the filling of the blood banks from now,?the
opening of nursing courses, the preparation of the civil defense
and the combat of fires, etc. I say from now the [words indistinct].
The challenge, since there is an economic battle, is that we should
strengthen our economy in the same way as weapons are mobi-
lized in the event of a military battle. Even when the battle is a
military one, it needs an economic base [words indistinct]. The
economy is important. If we fight with arms, we have a strong
economy to finance the battle.
If we are in an economic battle, then we must strengthen the
economy. In both cases, the economy is everything. It is the
foundation. We must realize that the economy. has two aspects:
there is self-sufficiency in what we ourselves need, where one
secures one's food, drink, and clothing without any pressure on
society, on the state, and on its treasury. And there is the economy
of the state of the masses, the general budget secured by we
individuals by our sweat in order to buy weapons and things of
general interest. If there is no need, then that is it; we will have
succeeded; this would be victory; this is what is required.
If you and your family have reached self-sufficiency, without
coming and knocking on doors saying: Buy me [word indistinct]
from Germany, buy me chicken from Germany [words indistinct]
for 18 months, [word indistinct] egg or [word indistinct];, or
saying: Bring me sheep from Bulgaria; bring me cloves from
Madagascar; bring me flour from Australia; bring me.,tea from
Sri Lanka; bring me bananas from Nicaragua; bring me:... If you
keep knocking on the door, saying bring me this, bring me that,
then what battle would you be entering? How [word indistinct]
the battle? This is what is required; [words indistinct] saying
bring me this, bring me that; and when they do not bring you
what you want, then you go to America, you surrender and
say: Here I am, I surrender.
If every year you achieve self-sufficiency - and this is a time of
self-sufficiency for every family - then -that is.it; we would not
go shopping anymore in the market. None of us family men would
have to go shopping in the market to buy mint, parsley, eggs,
meat, milk, fruit or vegetables. Every family should achieve
self-sufficiency in this. On. the other hand, we will thus make
available for our society means of buying arms, constructing
hospitals, schools, power stations, roads, etc.
I mean that if there is really general mobilization now - and I
am now addressing myself to all the basic people's congresses -
I have asked for statistics, [word indistinct] and assessments.
When I saw the enthusiasm...I hope that I have not been deceived
by the enthusiasm of the congresses with the sight of the serious-
ness of the Libyans; and I hope that when it comes to action, this
will not turn out to be mere talk, as the Egyptians say.
In fact, when I saw the enthusiasm, I said that this people is ready
to make miracles at this moment, and that I must contribute by
presenting something to it, a plan.
[Passage indistinct] directives; that I must somehow explain to. it
the road it should follow, as long as feelings are so high with
enthusiasm and challenge. I told them that olive oil, for instance,
is a weapon. If we keep paying so many millions to buy olive
oil,how are we going to be independent and save these millions?
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If every Libyan during this season, or not necessarily during this
season; [changes thought] imagine if during two or three seasons
every Libyan, (?especially) the workers who number half a
million, not including those under arms, students, civil servants
and other producers - if every Libyan plants an olive tree,
whether this year or in 2 years time. this would make Libya
self-sufficient in olive oil. We would thus have to plant some 10
million olive trees.
If we buy these plants from abroad, they would cost us the same
thing: 10 million dinars. In other words, we save 10 million
dinars to buy olive tree plants, but if each of us plants sixteen
plants, then the miracle would be made. This would really be a
go-to-hell for America: Planting an olive tree in the ground would
be like inserting a spike in the eye of America.
Every municipality would have to define the areas where olive
trees are to be planted. But even if one plants olive trees in one's
farmyard, it would be enough to plant 16 olive trees in one
farmyard. If half a million of us plants sixteen plants we would
have ten million trees [figures as heard], and we would be
self-sufficient in olive oil after a few years - we would have laid
the foundations.
If each of the half a million Libyan workers plants three date
trees, then we would add 1 and 1/2 million new date trees. If we
buy such date tree plants we would need 27 or 30 million dinars.
Thus we would have to save an equivalent amount from the
consumer goods budget: taxes, savings, in other words, putting
our money in banks. The banks would then function and your
money would remain there for you. If we pay the taxes, this will
help the farms, the cooperatives, and the private personal and
productive workshops.
We will plant 1.5 million new palm trees. This is a great fortune.
We could export it or keep it. If every Libyan planted only 2 out
of 500,000 citrus trees, then we would have planted I million new
citrus trees. I found out that they do not want citrus trees and
they have even stopped planting them. Citrus fruits are oranges
and lemons and it was discovered that these fruits are wanted in
Europe.
Only the Mediterranean countries grow oranges and olives. The
rest of the world has no oranges. Therefore, this is a comodity
which we should grow. A. million trees. We can export oranges
just as we export petroleum. If the export of petroleum is insuffi-
cient, then we can compensate by exporting oranges, dates, and
olives.
Here is the petroleum; they blockade it and store it. So we will
create another petroleum - (? not) real petroleum. The world
needs petroleum. If the world needs oranges in addition to
petroleum, we should grow oranges; if they need watermelons,
we should grow water melons. [Words indistinct] we export to the
world [words indistinct] that material which we do not have.
Therefore, anyone who plants tea, which we do not have, can
.force us to buy it. He becomes a producer of tea and can bring it
to us and present it to us for a certain price and we buy it from
him. By this he imposes his will. If Europe wants oranges, we can
plant oranges and they will be forced to buy them; we will impose
our will. The (?Israelis) export oranges. They occupied Palestine
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and are planting citrus and exporting them to Europe. For about
2.5 million dinars we could buy I million new citrus trees. If we
save 2.5 million dinars and every Libyan plants only 2 trees, if he
plants 4 trees we would have 2 million trees. This is more than
we need, double the need. If you plant 8 new trees this will mean
4 million citrus trees, that is, 3 times the requirements. This is as
far as the trees are concerned.
I think it is clear now that if every Libyan in this battle...[Al-
Qadhdhafi hesitates] This battle means that you plant 16 olive
trees, 3 palm trees and 2 citrus trees. It is enough that every
Libyan will plant these, then you will see how many trees and
what we have done on the Libyan soil.
If we save 30 million dinars, if we save them by saying we do not
want such and such thing but we want something else, what is
this something else? Let us suppose we want to be self-sufficient
in milk. In order for the Libyans to become self-sufficient in milk
and not to import it, they would need to buy 46,000 cows. I told
the director of estimations a few days ago to ask the people who
have these calculations, to ask them about this and that. They
said the Libyan people need so much milk every year. I said to
them: all right, we cannot buy 46,000 cows, and there is difficulty
in breeding them, and the fodder and soon. But [words indistinct]
one-third of the milk we consume comes from cows. This means
one-third of the total figure. One-third is from camels and
one-third from sheep. This means we have sheep, camels, and
cows whose milk will suffice for Libyan consumption every year.
This requires the saving of 30 million dinars - 30 million dinars
in order to supply the Jamahiriyah's requirements for milk every
year; possibly less than that, possibly 25 million because of the
price of a camel. I do not how much a camel costs; they said about
400 dinars, which is wrong. Camels have no costs, they could be
sold even for 50 dinars and every family could buy a camel for
50 dinars and become self-sufficient and stop buying milk from
the market.
Eggs: To be self-sufficient in eggs I need 4 million dinars. We
could bring in hens sufficient for our yearly consumption - this
is 4 million a year.
would be a revolution. There is no problem in it. It has nothing
to do with writing a telegram to the brother colonel full of
grandiloquent expressions from this or that congress; it has
nothing to do with chanting slogans. Slogans have no relation to
patriotism, fatigue or sacrifice; planting trees involves some
fatique, but it is the correct thing to do.
In other words, every year we import 72,000 metric ton of olive
oil, and we are supposed to import just about 30,000 metric tons,
not 70 [as heard]. But if we plant the trees I have talked about
we would be able to do without imports.
If the average family in the Jamahiriyah has five persons - I
say average because some families have three persons and others
have twelve - but the reasonable figure is always the average
one. Adding two extremes, a family of seven and a family of
three, the total is ten, and dividing by two equals five. But what
matters is that every Libyan family takes part in this economic
battle for their own interests. They would not lose, they would
win.
Every family of 5 Libyans needs 350 liters of milk a year. Every
family of 5 or every 5 Libyans consume 350 liters of milk a year
which is imported from abroad. If every family decided to secure
their 350 liters of milk by raising animals to provide this amount
of milk, we would be independent and we would triumph in the
battle because we would stop buying milk from abroad.
Every family must start thinking. Families should sit together
whether within the framework of a people's congress or a people's
committee. I mean, the family should form a management for
itself, a self-government for itself, a budget for itself - their
budgets being their salaries. Members of the family should sit
and decide, and say: In order to spite and defy America and to
win the battle, we will not buy milk from abroad. Our family will
become self-sufficient in terms of milk, eggs, meat, fruits, and
grains and so on. But how shall. we attain this? We begin to
say: Our salary is'so much and our income is so much. If we
consume 350 liters of milk a year, where shall we get them? If
every family buys one goat, then we can dispense with the milk.
If every family buys one or two goats, that would suffice.
If we save 15 million dinars on meat only we would save our needs
for 1 year. This is what we consume: 15 million dinars would
be saved. But the way we are spending this money in itself needs
calculation.
Another remark about olive oil. There are about 7.5 million olive
trees in Libya, producing approximately 45,000 metric tons of
olive oil. Local consumption of olives has reached 72,000 metric
tons. This means that if we have 7.5 million trees producing in
theory 45,000 metric ton, while we consume 72,000 metric ton,
we are almost covering our consumption. But the fact is that
every year we obtain just 3 metric ton of olive oil. How is it that
we get 3 metric ton from 7.5 million trees? The 7.5 million olive
trees are meant to produce 45,000 metric ton! How is it that we
get only 3 metric ton of olive oil?
Well, this is the revolution, if you want a revolution, if you want
confrontation. Go to these 7.5 million olive trees, and act so that
each tree yields the crop it is supposed to produce. You must get
45,00 metric ton of olive oil from the olive trees you have. This
But where shall these animals be raised? They should not be
raised in the cities. Each municipality should try to implement
what we have been saying. The lands around the cities should be
divided so that everyone would have a part or even a quarter of
a hectare in which to graze his goats and thus become self-
sufficient in milk.
A ewe costs only 50 dinars, and not 400 dinars as some sell them
now. What would happen if each family bought one or two goats?
Would that be a gain or a loss for the family? I do not think it is
a serious matter for a family to buy a goat and raise it for its milk.
Perhaps this [words indistinct]. America may [words indistinct]
drive us toward independent struggle.
If every family were to buy a cow, we would have a surplus of
milk to sell. Perhaps a family cannot have one cow; perhaps it
would be better for every 4, 5, 6, 7 or 10 families to share a cow.
This is another way. You could make a collection from a group
of families in the same street and buy a cow and put it somewhere.
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The price of a cow is 300 dinars, but its milk would be sufficient
for all these families. It says in these papers here how much each
cow produces.
Every Libyan consumes 240 eggs a year. When we multiply this
by 5 we get 1,200. This means that every family consisting of five
people or every five Libyans consumes, they eat, 1,200 eggs a
year. Every five individuals in the form of a cooperative - we
are not looking at the family alone - it can be wider, every 5
persons, every 20, every 30, every 100, every 50 persons [words
indistinct] but I take the family as an example. A family consist-
ing of five people decides how it is going to provide 1,200 eggs a
year for itself. It buys itself six hens, that is (?enough). There is
no problem for a family to (word indistinct] six hens or every five
persons go and buy six [words indistinct]. Every municipality
takes the land around it, one (?circle after another) and divide it
for this purpose. This why the land can be developed and this how
independence is achieve. The price of these six is 12 dinars and I
do not think there is a family that cannot take 12 dinars and buy
six hens in order to produce 1,200 eggs a year so that it no longer
needs to buy in the market or from Germany or from America.
This is a model. If you want to achieve sufficiency in eggs every
five persons, and it is possible for fives and fives to participate
together and it is possible for a family to decide that it consumes
1,200. They need six hens, which cost 12 dinars. That's it. Every
family should meet or every group of people should meet as of
tomorrow [words indistinct] the battle.
Every Libyan consumes 50 [word indistinct] kilograms of meat a
year. Thus, a family consisting of five or every five Libyans
consume 215 kilograms of meat a year. How can we no longer
buy it from abroad and provide it? The family should buy birds,
should buy other animals and rear them in order to provide -
this is calculated by the kilo. You can say 50 kilos of meat
(?should not be) all meat. Half of it can be meat, half eggs, their
third, their quarter other materials which have the same protein:
beans, lentils, broad beans, I do not know what - all these things
have protein. The [word indistinct] has protein, fish has protein,
meat itself is protein. It is not necessary for it to be all meat.
There is nothing easier [words indistinct]... meat, eggs, olives,
dates, if you do not make these things your [words indistinct]. I
alert you so that you may not be decieved. You are still in the
sweet battle, you are still on the easy way but if you neglect, you
will face the difficult road, the hard choice.
We have the grain. We consume 500,000 metric tons of wheat
every year and about 500,000 metric ton of barley, most of it for
feed. (?We produce) about 200,000 metric ton of the 500,000;
300,000 remain. Half of it could be supplied through the great
artificial river in the future, and the other half, 150,000 metric
ton of wheat we would still need. This requires that we plant other
areas, not less than 100,000 irrigated hectares of what so that we
become self-sufficient. [Word indistinct] every Libyan should
plant wheat or barley in his farm. [words indistinct] Do not buy
rice from abroad, do not buy flour from abroad. Every family
should determine how much grain they consume and plant it in
their farm or valley. This salary of yours, plant wheat with it and
get animals with it - get anything with it. It is possible that the
people, the families, the cooperatives or certain groups or
Jamahiri suburbs could be granted loans so that they can get
these things. This is simple and requires small sums of money -
w
10 dinars, 12, 15, 20 or 100 dinars could help you do something
to dispense with the market, and you will not need after that to
go to the market and struggle among the crowds. There is a [word
indistinct] citizen in this country who goes to the market to buy
something which he can produce himself.
It is required that any house with grounds should plant its olives,
yes, and oranges and palm trees and even its bananas and grapes.
That is it. With this you would not need to go to the market. If
you consider your own houses as a temporary residence, then
show me to whom you would leave them. Anyone with a house
in which he is settled should plant these trees, should surround it
with these trees which will rid him from the need to go to the
market to buy fruit. Even the bananas; if every family decides to
plant its bananas by their house, then you would not have to
import bananas from abroad. Every day [words indsitinct] on
bananas and that is it. [words indistinct] tanks in which the rain
water will be kept. The rains are heavy now, it seems that there
has began a change in the weather, God willing. There are now
very heavy rains in this [word indistinct] different from what we
were used to. That it is [word indistinct] in the yard which will
suffice you for a full year and from which you water the trees. If
you need water, you dig [words indistinct] and plant trees.
American cuts the trees and destroys the [word indistinct] and
kills us. [words indistinct] America.
There are the cereals, trees, eggs, meat and milk, in addition to
what the Arabs call tricot; it must be in every house, this tricot;
the family, the modesty, and the things which [words indsitinct]
to make [words indistinct] Turkey and Greece, you spent. ..[words
indistinct] The tricot is used for making children's clothes at
home. One takes a loan; they give him a loan; if one comes and
says, give me a loan, I want to buy a tricot machine, because all
my clothes - socks, tee shirts, children clothes - all these we
can manufacture at home. All right, manufacture them. They
give him a loan. At every home [words indistinct] argument. Is
this his machinegun; [as heard] we find tricot at every home from
tomorrow; [words indistinct] and then they set up a factory for
these machines to produce...[words indistinct] [chanting]
When we fight and when we chant, it must have a meaning;
useful and necessary; but when we chant without fighting, and
shout without a battle, this is meaningless; these are empty words
which we are talking about; if you chant about how to plant olive
trees, citrus trees, and palm trees, on how every family should be
independent and how tomorrow, the Jamahiriyah from end to
end will begin to form cooperatives and mass quarters, and will
fix its budget from its wages and ask for loans if it needs loans,
on the basis that it is carrying out such-and-such things, and will
not just buy what these families need of these plants, animals,
(?not enough) what we have in our nurseries or in our general
projects; if you ask, for instance, 1 million camels, you will not
find it; you will say, let us buy them from abroad; every masses'
quarters, every cooperative, every family offers the money they
have; so even you cannot buy, you do not how to arrange this; you
give this money to your municipality, to the competent committee
which could from now on begin to determine these quarters. All
right, if you have 500 dinars, use this money to buy plants of such
kind so that we can plant them; and buy with that money such
and such a camel or goat or chicken, so we will become self-
sufficient and do everything and not go to the market anymore.
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[sentence indistinct] [all passages as heard]
This is the capital. [words indistinct] From tomorrow you will
start at masses' quarters, start with cooperatives, new coopera-
tives, industrial, agricultural and everyone will begin to offer [as
heard]. Those who ask for tricot will begin to make their own
clothes at home and no longer buy from the colonialist markets,
because we are boycotting them just as they have boycotted us,
this price of the tricot [words indistinct]buy this machine from
anywhere, they give a receipt for the money and then they will
buy it for you and then they will hand it over to you.
Those who are not trained in weaving and these things, beginning
tomorrow you will start courses in the training of weaving; every
family shoudl endeavor to manufacture everything from its
home; [words indistinct] This effort, tomorrow we will turn out a
cloak; we will begin to manufacture; we have wool, we will buy
wool, etc. This is independence; I see that this battle [words
indistinct] the positions, the lines of confrontation, the minefields,
the fortifications - I mean all the fighting arrangements in the
battlefield; it is now this; whether weaving, whether the tricot,
the farm, the breeding of chickens, independence - it means
independence - so much so that at the end of the year we will
say "raspberry" to America; to keep punishing us, to keep
frightening us, to keep makes us kneel - on the contrary, we will
turn up stronger.[words indistinct]
I told you it could strengthen us; and we will say, thanks be to
God that a confrontation did take place at the beginning of 1986
between me and America and Zionism. Otherwise, we would not
have thought about ourselves, about getting organized and
becoming independent and having the source of milk, the source
of vegetables and fruits; having a 'small factory at his own home
manufacturing things. If it was not for this, we would not have
set up cooperatives; families would not have gathered together to
set up a farm for the chickens around the town. As for oil, we say'
thanks to God and how stupid we were to spend our wages' on
empty things. Now your wage has become of value; and the work
that brought you this wage you now [word indistinct] and has its
value; because your wage kept you independent, sensing that you
are not used to breed [word indistinct] every year and become
independence; you would say how you were going to the market
looking for milk mixed with the bones of the dead, as the Arabs
say. [Words indistinct] 50 dinars, the year after and the year after
that, three or four families buying one cow and the cow becomes
two, three or four. [words indistinct] and how was our live
proceeding. How was our life proceeding? This confrontation is
what civilized us. We were looking for the eggs, and we did not
know how to produce them. It is easy; you can breed some
chickens and produce the eggs. The meat - we were queuing
[word indistinct] the slaughterhouse and the butcher. We discov-
ered that there is nothing easier than breeding these animals. You
can breed them. This saves part of the general budget.
We should construct huge projects, fisheries, basins for breeding
fish along the Libyan coast and utilize the coast which we defend
and which we have nearly died for, for which the superpowers
challenge us. Why do we not utilize it? -It is possible to spread
the basins along the Libyan coast, basins for breeding fish. You
can take a section of the sea and close it and breed fish in it. The
whole world now breeds fish. I mean the serious countries. For
instance, the Israelis would like to assert their presence on the
Arab land in spite of our will. These fish plantations are every-
where in Palestine, along the rivers and seas. Japan did the same
thing. Many countries of the world are not looking for fish in the
middle of the sea any more. They now control the fish, and plant
it, similar to a tree. [words indistinct] and you can say how much
would the production be. Now we have planted it in the dam of
(?Wadi al-Mijinin) and some other dams. You have seen it. They
are large fish. The season is about 4 months. When the dam is
full of water we can plant fish in it. We have planted the fish
here, and you have seen it, as they have shown it on the screen
more than once.
In fact, I very much admire the enthusiastic stand of the Libyan
people, and that they are not afraid of America and nobody [word
indistinct]. In fact, this time is different from all the other times.
This is what encouraged me to present them with things that are
advanced to some extent.
This includes the primary schools.. probably I have forgotten this
point since I do not have the notes. ..the project of home primary
education. This is [word indistinct] application. We have to
decide how to save the monies of the primary schools in order to
get something else with them. It is possible that every group, even
the families in which nobody can read and write or teach his
children, could get a teacher or a group of teachers and distribute
themselves among a number of areas. After 5 or 6 years, the
children will go to the preparatory schools and will find them
ready. The families should compete; every family should see if it
can makes its son reach the preparatory school or not. Make sure
that they will succeed in it; otherwise we will have illiteracy anew,
because there is a problem of who can absorb the new children.
Illiteracy has returned to the Arab countries again. During the
first years, the number of children was small, and they were
absorbed into the schools. Now the number of children has
increased, and these Arab countries now have. no capacity. Now,
a number of Arab countries are' on' their way again toward
illiteracy. This means that the new Arab generations will be
illiterate. You have to know that. This is the age of science, and
you think that all the Arabs are learning. On the contrary, from
now on illiteracy will resume in the Arab world. This is because
the basis of eduction is to construct enough primary. schools to
absorb all the children. Anyone who is not absorbed in a primary
school will be left behind. Let us avoid this problem by getting.
the primary education at home. By this we will save for prepara-
tory education and middle education, I mean, and higher educa-
tion. If we do not take this step, illiteracy will return to us again.
Some Arab countries cannot now absorb their children in the
schools. Therefore, illiteracy is coming again. If a child does not
go to primary school, he will not go to preparatory school. If he
does not go to preparatory school he will not go to middle school,
and after that he will not go on to higher education. Now the new
generations are prepared to be illiterate, like our ancestors, again,
while the the world fights among itself in space. '
This is because every Arab country cannot meet these costs. If
the Arabs were one state, they would be able to absorb their
children in the schools with their efforts. But the Arabs are not
currently one state. There is one country with teachers and
another without teachers, a country with schools with few stu-
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dents and another whose schools are crowded or that has no
schools at all for its children. Arab unity is necessary in order for
the Arabs to enter the modern times; otherwise they will be
finished; they will become as in the past, and go back to living on
the sidelines.
We are here now to decide on our free land. We can avoid this
crisis by absorbing primary education at home. Whatever the
numbers that might increase, every family who has children
should shoulder the responsibility of their primary education.
After that, we can supply middle education. Probably in a future
stage we might absorb middle education at home, and higher
education and the specialised technical education only will be...I
mean, that the Libyans for the first time...this is what encouraged
me to present these things to them.
In the past, in 1967 and even in 1973, when the Libyans used to
hear of war in the Middle East, they used to gather their families
and flee to the mountains, leaving the coastal areas back to their
villages, one carrying a sack of flour and another carrying a box
or a sack of rice - very disgraceful indeed. The people go rushing
as though the country was on fire, a real fire, and so everyone
tries to save all he can, carry it, and go, although the battle in the
Middle East is about 4,000 kilometers away from us. It cannot
reach us at all and commodities have not become more expensive,
or even scarce.
Though this time the threat was near, it was not in Palestine. It
was near the Libyan shores. I do not remember well - I think
around 6 January, on the 6th of this month, the Israelis did try
to raid Libya with their planes. Their planes came out at dawn
and they tried to supply them with fuel, and tried to seek the help
of an American aircraft carrier and the U.S. bases in the Medi-
terranean. But they discovered that the operation involved a risk
of untold consequences and so they canceled it. [chants]
Following the failure of this operation, we were surprised to see
the American fleets appear off the Libyan coasts from Banghazi
to Tripoli. They came, in groups - scores of American vessels
together with an aircraft carrier. We believe that they were
sailing from the north to the south, i.e. in the direction of Libya,
and so if they reached the latitude 30.5 degrees, which is the
beginning of the Gulf of Sidra, we would have to clash with them.
We were prepared. We had declared the maximum state of
preparedness. But by, midday, the American flotilla disappeared
for international and local reasons. It seems after that they had
retreated and decided to embark on the economic battle in which
we now find ourselves.
I am pleased with the Libyans this time. None of them rushed to
carry sacks of tea, flour, so on. On the contrary, they went to the
people's congresses and raised cries of defiance.
(?It was the invasion) that made the Arab nation and the whole
world stand by you. They saw that you are not afraid nor are you
submissive, but, on the contrary, you showed firmness and defi-
ance toward this confrontation.
The Libyans forgot all about market commodities and proceeded
to the congresses and declared the cry of defiance. This encour-
aged me to put forward to you these practical suggestions. That
Q 9 NORTH AFRICA
The battle imposed on us now is an economic battle and it is
waged by a superpower - the United States. On the 21st of this
month, the whole of Europe will be meeting to consider the
American demand for them to join the economic battle against
the Jamahiriyah. On the 21st day of this month, all the West
European countries will meet [words indistinct] for they do not
know what to say. Naturally, they are now opposed to America.
But they are forced to consider the call made by America: that
Western Europe must join the economic battle against Libya.
After that, the United States distributed messages among all the
world countries asking them to join in the battle, i.e. total
mobilization of the whole .world: the African, Asian, Latin
American, and European countries, with the exception of the
socialist countries and the Warsaw Pact member-countries and
the USSR. These support us in the battle and they have no
ambition to (?influence it). To the rest of the countries of the
world, however, they sent messages asking them to boycott Libya
and to join the economic battle declared by the United States
against Libya.
The superpower, America, declared a state of national emer-
gency to face up to the Libyan threat. This is what they called it.
This is because the Libyan people, refused to succumb. It because
they saw that the Libyan people had refused to succumb. The
Libyan people uttered the cry of defiance. They said it seems that
this small people would triumph, and since it would triumph, then
we must not concentrate our forces.
So that we may really triumph and your cries are not hollow, you
must apply the things I have spoken to you about. I mean as of
tomorrow, the [word indistinct], the families and the Jamahiriyah
quarters should decide to be self-sufficient in regard to things we
now import from abroad. We must make things [word indistinct]
oil.
We export citrus, dates, fruits, and vegetables. We have a high
level of poultry production and we export it. If they want to fight
the oil, then we will face them with oranges, dates. The world
cannot live without oranges and dates. These things are within
our power. As of tomorrow, we can change our land into orange
groves, olive groves, palm groves, poultry farms, and vegetables
which we can export. Each one produces enough grain to meet
the needs of his family and even barley. Nobody would grind
flour and eat it. The wheat can be ground in various grades
producing farine or anything else. You can plant grain and even
barley, the world eats barley and we too lived on barley all our
lives. The wheat is only a luxury.
When I visited Senegal the other day, they told me that those
who have unmilled rice, like the rice we have, give it to the
animals and. get instead milled rice. I asked why? They said
because the people are,accustomed to the milled rice and so the
unmilled rice to them has no. taste. Imagine: We do not import
this milled rice at all, but to Senegal and some other people, if
the rice is not milled, they do not eat it. If the rice is whole, they
give it as fodder to the animals. But we do not buy the milled rice.
Naturally, the milled rice is cheaper [as heard].
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This should enter the battle. I do not believe the battle is difficult.
I do not think the battle will be difficult. With our income, our
capabilities, and our salaries, we can triumph over America.
Forward and the struggle will continue.
JANA Reports on Al-Qadhdhafi ABC Interview
LD150935 Tripoli JANA in English 0836 GMT 15 Jan 86
[Text] Tripoli, Jumada Awal 3, Jan. 14, JAMAHIRIYAH
NEWS AGENCY - The leader of the revolution confirmed
that the serious terrorism the world faces today "which we are
confronting is the official terrorism, the one the U.S. and Israeli
Governments practice. It is the one that threatens world peace
and the small states' independence".
In the process of replying to the questions of the U.S. TV network
ABC, which was relayed by satellite directly to the Night Line
programme, the leader said: "What took place in Rome cannot
be carried out by a U.N. member-state. What had a group of
Palestinian carried out was a different thing, for Palestinians are
not recognised by the United Nations (U.N.). America refuses to
recognise them which makes them forced to act outside the law
and we should expect more if their issue is not settled".
In his replies, the leader confirmed that there is no relation
between Libya's support for the just cause of the Palestinian
people and those operations that groups of Fedayeen carry out,
which are their responsibility and not the responsibility of any
state. Otherwise all world states which support the Palestinian
cause are held responsible for the incidents that took place in
Rome and Vienna and elsewhere.
The leader of the revolution indicated that there are hostile
intentions on the side of the U.S. towards Libya and there is a
U.S. terrorist spirit towards the Arab nation and its indepen-
dence. He was pointing to America's unwillingness that we
should be independent. "It wants us to be under its control." He
reminded about the losses it suffered from the expulsion of 5 of
U.S. military bases from the Libyan Arab territories which made
America attempt to regain this area and keep it under its control,
otherwise there is no problem between Libya and the U.S.
The leader of the revolution confirmed that if America tried to
attack Libya and put its threats into practice, then there are
grave consequences and effects which will follow such an attack,
"if we were attacked, then we shall not hesitate."
The leader declared that an attack by a great power on a tiny
country like Libya will be dangerous and a start of a third world
war, which will turn the region into a battlefield, it will destroy
communications, trade, tourism and marine transport.
The leader said: "If we were attacked by the U.S., then all tiny
countries will stand with us. Between us we will form an interna-
tional popular force that will struggle against America. Also
there will be another great power in the world, because the U.S.
is not the only great power in the world that has the free [word
indistinct] of work. The world is controlled by the law of interna-
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tional balance and if America took any action against Libya, then
the international balance will stay by our side, and other world
great powers will not allow America to carry out its action."
The leader added: "There are other forces in the world which
will support us despite their being not great powers. But they are
fedayeen from everywhere and can act anywhere."
The leader indicated that if the struggle against the U.S. aggres-
sion is considered that if the struggle against the U.S. aggression
is considered as terrorism, "then in this case it is a good thing. If
the world's freedom fighters supported us against America, in
case it attacks us, then you will consider them as terrorists. Then
in this case you will consider the just struggle for freedom, as
terrorism."
The leader confirmed that the struggle of the Palestinian people
for the liberation of Palestine is a legitimate struggle, a sacred
and just one.
And on a question relating to the Rome and Vienna airports, the
leader explained that the Israelis are fighting Palestinians out-
side Palestine and chase them everywhere in the Arab states and
all over the world. "This confirms that the Palestinians have the
rights to reply to that."
The leader confirmed that the U.S. has declared an economic
war against Libya, the tiny country.
Replying to a question put to him concerning the future of U.S.
relations towards Libya, the leader of the revolution said: "We
are victims, the aggression comes from one side, ie. from America
whether this aggression is military or economic."
The leader of the revolution has stressed that we are against
terrorism, pointing out that we are struggling against terrorism,
but USA doesn't want this, for it aims at our independence,
integrity and nation, adding that it threatens us with its Sixth
Fleet and long-range bombers B52 as we expect that they will
attack us anytime.
The leader of the revolution has pointed out that this is a state of
official terrorism practised against us by U.S. Government and
that we want to unify and liberate our nation as well as to develop
our country in a manner far from foreign interventions in our
internal and pan-Arab affairs, stressing that this is a very dan-
gerous thing brought about by the super power, namely USA,
against small countries like Libya.
Replying to a question on the military choices being spoken about
by the head of U.S. Administration, the leader has said that
Reagan can attack us, but he has absolutely (?no) justification
for this attack.
He has added that we reject to cut off our relations with our
brotherly Palestinians and that Abu Nidal and all other Palestin-
ian leaders are our brothers and that we support them because
they are fighting for a just cause. They want to liberate Palestine
that has been occupied since 1948 by Zionism. They have, he
(?added) the right to fight and that we support this just struggle.
The Israelis, he continues, constitutes a danger to our future as
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He says we should not mix this with other issues like what took
place in Rome and Vienna airports, pointing out that what took
place there were individual acts executed by individuals who are
not responsible politically or revolutionarily, Possibly they did
this because they were faced with terrorism, for they have been
crushed under Israelis armoured vehicles and tanks which used
to trample on families inside their civilian motorcars which they
were using to flee their villages which were attacked by the
Israelis.
He points out that some individuals of these families possibly
wants to have revenge like the Lebanese girl, Sanna' Mihidli, who
gave her life and killed a number of the Israelis after seeing her
family being trampled on by the Israelis.
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Republic of Mauritania. The session was attended by brothers
the secretaries of the General People's Committees of the Peo-
ple's Bureau for Foreign Liaison, Public Service, Education,
Planning, Economy and Petroleum. On the Mauritanian side it
was attended by the ministers of foreign affairs, justice and
Islamic orientation, labor, public service, finance and commerce.
Ways of strengthening existing cooperation between the two
fraternal peoples in all fields and activating the work of joint
companies, and taking all necessary measures to implement the
agreements signed between the two countries were discussed at
the session.
President Lays Wreath
LD142024 Tripoli JANA in English 1837 GMT 14 Jan 86
The leader of the revolution, on concluding the interview, has
wondered by asking why USA has not imposed economic sanc-
tions against the Israelis who have slaughtered many innocent
civilians.
AI-Qadhdhafi Proposes Arab Peace Force for PDRY
LD141754 Tripoli Domestic Service in Arabic
1732 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] A telephone contact has taken place between the brother
leader of the revolution and Colonel 'Ali 'Abdallah Salih, presi-
dent of the YAR concerning the bloody and regrettable events in
South Yemen.
JANA has learned that the brother leader of the revolution has
proposed to President `Ali 'Abdallah Salih that an Arab Libyan
peace force be landed in North Yemen and later moved to Aden
to stop the fratricidal fighting in South Yemen. The Agency has
learned that this Arab Libyan proposal is currently being studied
and the subject of consultations.
Al-Qadhdhafi, Syria's AI-Asad Discuss PDRY
LD141755 Tripoli Domestic Service in Arabic
1700 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] A telephone conversation took place today between the
brother leader of the revolution and Syrian President Hafiz
Al-Asad in relation to the bloody and regrettable events that are
taking place among the brothers in South Yemen. JANA has
learned that the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriyah has
appealed to the brothers in South Yemen to contact it in order to
know what is required from Libya to put and end to the fighting
that is taking place between brothers, and in order to rescue the
revolution in South Yemen.
Mauritanian Delegation Holds Talks 14 January
LD141327 Tripoli Voice of Greater Arab Homeland
in Arabic 1230 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] A round of talks was held this morning between the
Socialist Peoples Libyan Arab Jamahiriyah and the Islamic
[Text] Tripoli, Jumada Awal 3, Jan. 14, JAMAHIRIYAH
NEWS AGENCY - Colonel Maayouia Sidi Ahmed Taya, the
chairman of the Military Committee for National Salvation and
the president of the Islamic Republic of Mauritania placed, at
noon today, a wreath of flowers on the memorial monument of
the martyrs of the famous Al Hani battle.
The Mauritanian president also visited the martyrs cemetery
where he prayed asking for mercy on the soul of martyr
Mohamed Abu Minyar al-Qadhdhafi, the father of the leader of
the revolution.
Al-Qadhdhafi, Jallud in Talks
LD142224 Tripoli Voice of Greater Arab Homeland
in Arabic 2115 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] The brother leader of the great al-Fatah revolution and
Colonel Maayouia Sidi Ahmed Ould Taya, chairman of the
Military Committee for National Salvation and President of the
Islamic Republic of Mauritania, held a working session this
evening which was attended by Staff Major 'Abd as-Salam
Ahmad Jallud, and by the Mauritanian foreign minister.
The brother leader of the great a[-Fatah revolution and the
Mauritanian head of state also attended an equestrian display in
which several Libyan Arab riders in traditional costume took
part. This display was held in honor of the Mauritanian head of
state.
Demonstrations Mark 1964 Student Uprising
LD141946 Tripoli JANA in English 1857 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] Tripoli, Jumada Awal 3, Jan. 14, JAMAHIRIYAH
NEWS AGENCY - For the second day, the students' masses
revived the 22nd anniversary of the student uprising on 13 and
14 January 1964.
Male and female student masses took to the streets of the
Jamahiriyah baladiyats this morning in massive marches carry-
ing green flags, portraits of the leader of the revolution and
placards expressing the solidarity of the student masses with the
Great Al-Fatah Revolution and its historic leadership which
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reflected the youths' ambitions in smashing the crowns of the
stooges, agents and reactionaries and wiped out for good the era
of despotism, oppression and tyranny.
This morning, the masses of students took to the streets of Tripoli,
Zletin, Ajdabia, Al-Jabal Al-Akhdhar, Banghazi and al-Qatrun.
Foreign Liaison Bureau Hosts Diplomatic Community
LD142117 Tripoli Television Service in Arabic
2005 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] The People's Bureau for Foreign Liaison hosted a recep-
tion banquet today for the foreigners in the Jamahiriyah on the
occasion of the new year. The banquet was attended by the heads
of the diplomatic missions accreditted to the Jamahiriyah and a
large number of the foreign communities in the Jamahiriyah.
A member of the People's Committee of the People's Bureau for
Foreign Liaison, in an address to the attendants, stressed that the
permanent and firm relations are the relations among peoples
and not among governments. He pointed out that the Libyan
Arab people always work toward consolidating and
strengthening their relations with all the peaceloving peoples of
the world.
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Arabs Urged to Implement Economic Boycott of U.S.
LD142033 Tripoli JANA in English 1843 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] Al-Shararah Al-Oula-Sabha, Jumada Awal 3, Jan.14,
JAMAHIRIYA NEWS AGENCY - The masses of the Basic
People's Congress Arab gathering in Al-Shararah al-Oula-
Sabha held a meeting on Sunday to discuss the U.S. economic
measures and threats against the Libyan Arab people and its
historic leadership and the way to confront these threats and
measures.
The Arab masses in Al-Shararah al-Oula-Sabha took many
decisions including the invitation to Arab youths to volunteer to
carry arms and fight the enemy and to contribute in liberating
the Arab land.
The Basic People's Congress's masses Arab gathering in Al-
Shararah al-Oula-Sabha called on the need for Arab countries'
economic boycott of U.S. Government and the withdrawal of
their assets from the U.S. banks.
They also decided to firmly stand by the side of the Libyan Arab
people in its brave confrontation with all U.S. threats and eco-
nomic measures.
Financial Institutions Condemn U.S. Boycott
LD141716 Tripoli Domestic Service in Arabic
1330 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] The revolutionary forces in banks and insurance and
finance institutions this morning held a meeting at Houari
Boumedienne Hall at the Tripoli General Congress, during which
they discussed the U.S. economic measures against the Libyan
Arab people taken by President Reagan and illegally freezing the
Arab assets in American banks.
The revolutionary forces issued a statement at the end of their
meetings in which they stressed their readiness to take all neces-
sary measures and means to confront this irresponsible position
taken by the U.S. administration.
The forces of the revolution in banks and insurance (?institutions)
have promised the brother leader of the revolution in their
statement to work assiduously to thwart the U.S. schemes. They
stressed that the support of the fraternal Arab countries and
other friendly countries is considered a political and economic
gain for the Arab nation and a defeat for U.S. imperialism and
Zionism.
The revolutionary forces at the secretariat, of the vocational
congress of banks and insurances institutions sent a cable to the
brother leader of the revolution in which they stressed their
challenge to the U.S.-Zionist assault, their confrontation of all
threats, and their readiness to implement the order of death in
order to defend the principles and the goals of the great al-Fatah
revolution and the great benefits brought to the Libyan people in
all fields by it.
Korean-Libyan Friendship Society Condemns U.S.
LDI41610 Tripoli Domestic Service in Arabic
1330 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Text] The Korean -Libyan Friendship Society has. strongly
condemned the U.S.-Zionist threat campaigns against the Lib-
yan Arab people and stressed the Korean people's solidarity with
the Libyan people's struggle against American hegemony. It has
added in a cable to the brother leader of the revolution that the
Korean people will fight side by side with the Libyan people
against any U.S.-Zionist aggression against Libya.
UAE Envoy Cited on Support for Libya, U.S. Threats
LD141522 Tripoli Voice of Greater Arab Homeland
in Arabic 1200 GMT 14 Jan 86
[Voice of the revolutionary committees; unidentified correspon-
dent's interview with Jasim Muhammad Yusuf, UAE charge
d'affaires to Libya - date and place not given; live or recorded]
[Excerpt] [Question] First, we all know the stance taken by the
UAE regarding the U.S. threats against the Arab nation in
general, and recently against the Jamahiriyah in particular.
Would you please give us more clarification about the UAE's
stance regarding these threats?
[Yusuf] In actual fact, the UAE has firm attitudes and a clear
policy with regard to its relations with friendly and Arab states.
These attitudes and policy are necessary for the UAE at this
current stage when the Jamahiriyah is being subjected to impe-
rialist threats, so that the UAE must take the attitude of a state
supporting and backing the fraternal Jamahiriyah.
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