AFRICA

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: Library of Congress
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): LOC-HAK-102-2-12-2
• Release Decision: RIPLIM
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 6
• Document Creation Date: January 11, 2017
• Document Release Date: December 15, 2010
• Sequence Number: 12
• Publication Date: June 27, 1975
• Content Type: MEMO

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MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
Participants: Secretary Kissinger
Deputy Secretary Ingersoll
Ambassador Vance
Acting Assistant Secretary Mulcahy
Walt Cutler, Country Director for Zaire
Jerry Bremer, Note`',,.
Subject: Africa i~
Date: June 27, 1975; Secretary's Office
DOS Review
Completed.
Distribution: S, Memcon Book, LPB, NSC-Rodman
Vance: I was looking over my reporting cables and I'm not sure I made this
point clear, but I left our friend Mobutu with a very clear indication of the
direction we are leaning.
The Secretary: Well, I must say that didn't come through in the. cables.
Vance: The last thing that he said to me was that he hoped I would return
soon with a message that we would do something on Angola.
The Secretary:. Well, what should we do?
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Vance: No. I saw Holden too. Mobutu says Holden's superiority has
disappeared due to the heavy Soviet arms shipments.
The Secretary How quickly will we have to move?
Vance: Very quickly I think. The strategy is if nothing is done by
November 11 .
The Secretary: But do we have two weeks?
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Vance: It would take a lot of direct advice. I gathered that our minimum
requirement is to avoid having Neto take over.
The Secretar : My disposition is
Can the Soviets escalate?
Vance: Not as fast as we can
we should try to win.
The Secretary. Should we try to involve Kaunda?
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Vance: I don't know enough about Kaunda and Mobutu's relations.
Kaundaand Nyrere are supporting Savimbi.
Mulcahy: They urged us to support Savimbi. I think we should let them know
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The Secretary: My impression is that Kaunda was for it.
Mulcahy: He's now stopped arms going: through Zambia in an effort to deflate
the situation.
Vance: Mobutu said that any idea of the three of them getting together
is is total. nonsense. Neto will succeed if the .. others are not helped.
The Secretes Will Mobutu get off our back if we help?
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The Secretary: Will Mobutu send his Ambassador back tows?
Vance: I don't know. He hopes we'll send a new one back out soon. I
must say he never treated me in a more friendly manner. When I arrived
he was .convinced that we were involved in the coup and yet by the time
I left he was pretty much off it.
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The Secretary: How was he in general?
Vance: He's as rational .as ever and, as a matter of fact, even less
imperious.
The Secretary: HOW is his style of life? I imagine he's suffering no pain..
Vance: No, he's in no pain but he is slightly less imperial.
The Secretary: What decision do we have to make now?
The Secretary: How are we doing on that, by the way?
Mulcahy: We talked to Carter who thought it would take place today.
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(Secretary is interrupted for a phone call)
I gersolh? That should also include economic aid for Zaire.
The Secretary: Okay, let's get that started too.
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Vance: Back in the old days of the rebellions you could go
anywhere in that country.
Cutler: Three Soviet arm and personnel carriers are not a lot. We're
Root talking about squadrons.
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