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31 March 1953
MEMORANDUM FOR t DD/P
SUBJECT: DCI Is Remarks to the Ad Roc Cc ittee on N'S C 143
1, Pending the preparation on issuance of the formal minutes,
this is a special report on DCI's remarks to the Ad Hoc Committee at
its meeting yesterday 30 March.
2, ir. m Iles was introduced by Chairman Crittenberger who said
that the C:ttee desi x'ed to get a general estimate from the Director
of Central. Intelligence of the value and feasib lity._of..,the proposal
to establish a Volunteer ~ eed t Carps. In his introductory remarks
Dulles made the following points:
a. Like many ventures of this nature, it will be good if
it works. It appears to have a fair chance of working out, but
success is not assured. uch of its success will depend on the
nature of the publicity accompanying the launching of the program.
publicity will be very dangerous,
b., from the CIA point of view, the VFC is interesting on
two cOuntsz (I) In the psychological affect if could have on
Promoting defection and, (2) In its effect in building hope and
morale within the Iron Curtain countries, Both these objectives
are very important. Greater defection is important for Intelligence
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From the practical point of view the VFC could provide
creeni,ng device for both the intelligence and the activist
fields. Careful surveillance and military training under U. s.
trainers should serve to bring out some of the more valuable
elements among the escapees.
d. A careful estimate needs to be made of the numbers of
escapees available. The various existing estimates indicate that
total number would be nom more than 30,000 and that thus a modest
ginning of the type envisaged by the Committee will ba required.
M'ter these fear general remarks DCI was asked a number
essentially as follcwa:
OwanLI Crittenberger: Have you had any experience in CIA
in utilizing enlistees under the Lodge Act?
impression is that we have not, but we have no
precise information at this moment (r. Dulles then asked me to
ascertain the facts which I did today and have reported them to
Mr, Dulles. His impression that we had not so utilized Lodge
Act enlistees Is confirmed by my review and the feeling of all
concerned is that ve did not seek to utilize these young :.gin
because of the security hazard inherent in the way that they
vere recruited and trained, plus the fact that this program offered
an obvious target for the opposition).
nberger: What is your opinion as to why more
not attracted by the Lodge Act?
DCIz Young men i in the USSR haven't known what liberty is
the appeal, if it ever got to their ears at all,, produced no
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In the Satellites there has been a substantial
IONOUAt of defection among young men and s of theca did get
through to Join up under the Lodge Act,, but in the meantime
lition has tightened up controls very rigidly,
Marshallt Do you visualize recruiting for covert use
ate separately from the overt military use of the VFC2
w uld, of course, have to be exercised with the
able to divert scow of the personnel
covert use before entering the Corps. once they have become
bars of the Corps, we would feel that they had lost their
'We have to assume Cec ,st infiltration
of anything like the VFC.
Mr. Marshall. This Committee has contemplated Writing a
Preamble to the proposed draft legislation which would state
the objectives of the VJ'C that fz it is org&mjse4 to
old the principles of the Ul'N Charter? Do you agree with this?
DCI: (Replied in general that the best psychological affect
of a VTC would be the statement of its purpose as being in support
of un'versal principles of freedom and that of course the UN
ould be included in this context.)
General Ruff: Ambassador Lodge stated to this Comm'ttee
that our escapee programs are "getting under the skins" of the
sians. De you believe the VFC would be an aid to advancing
The VFC should definitely be an aid to d efection
scapee program?
particularly among Csechs and Poles, but less among the Hungarians
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and Roma t1 ans because they have no coon border with "the West.
General Ruffner: In previous Committee meetings it has been
suggested that the setting up of efficient defector reception
centers would be a of the most important elements in carrying
out the program. Do you have any comment?
DOlt I certainly agree that we must assure teat defectors
are made to feel welcome. We must also be sure that not only
those who are accepted for service in the VFC but also those who
are rejected be taken care of adequately (at tits point DCI al
suggested that it might be very helpful if escapees who have
families behind the Iron Curtain be given pseudonyms at the time
they are recruited.
Mr. Ftb and Taylor: Do you believe the VFC program should be
extended to the Far Eastern Soviet areas?
DCIs Haven't had a chance to give this much thought. Where
would they come from? Some might show up in Turkey such as
Georgians and Armens, but this is a rather special question.
f. Mr. Dulles was then asked by the Chairman if he had any
estimate of the probable Soviet reaction to a VFC.
Mr.. Dd1lese then proceeded to give the substance of the rough
liminary estimate made by the ONE Staff for review b the IAC
at its meting next week. This preliminary report art will be included
or . idr tes of the meeting which will be sent you sub-
In response to a question from Mr. Marshall as to whether
the 'FC would be applicable to all countries behind the Curtain
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In Eastern Europe, Mr. Dulles replied that he had no fire conviction
of his owe, but that the problem should be looked at fran the
point of view of three geographic areas: (1) the Satellites, (2)
the Baltic C?=tri'es', and (3) The Ukranians and other nationalities
which have been considered a part of the USE. in general, it
ay be said that DCI' a remarks were looked upon as cautious but
Ott in any event as highly enlightening.
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