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Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 TAB Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 7111r 'nate restored4-4,40.0000;'reqUeetad ty the Navy to permit the trUteter ot )Ivy :Judie ,receletrig facUlties tivAtiSheltenlialft4 to Sugar -Protei'lVe rk:Tb.. tem* -- pointed ot this due to eeerthtu high noise )(Tali it the ?ituurig Asti31i1300,tha ragouts 'fasiSties akeblike Iithani Milt he Meted to Aintither Since the Sena! Orono site hi, Welly suited for this perpotia adtelitage ten Se taken of ?:-tne existing invanwnt pt,thii_navy at this Iltelient,1091StifIL:'e train nil posit1011:alad'aicepted-the henete amend- " Classified naval Mite lZ The Senate 'authorised four construction projects for naval installations at Puerto Nio0 In the amount of $8,4e7.000. These _items had previously been deleted by the House. The House conferees insisted that these projects could be properly deferred un- til the fiscal year 1903 program. The Senate corifereea receded from their position and accepted the House deletion. The Senate deleted two projects for Rota. Spain. and a communication facility at an- other location in the total amount of 510.- 3/11.000 These items had previously been approved by the House. The Senate con- ferees pointed out that these projects could aelely be deferred until the fiscal year 1906 program. The House conferees receded from their position and accepted the Senate dele- tions. As a consequence of the foregoing changes, Hi e authorization to the Secretary of the Navy for the development of classified naval installaUons way reduced from $71,632,000. to a new figure of $63,095.000. Randolph Air Force Base, San Antonio, Tex. The Senate authorized $3,044.000 for eon- strut:non and related improvements at this location. The House had previously author- ized only $1,476,000. The major difference In the House and Senate action was the refusal of the Howie to provide $2,087.000 required for alterations to the headquarter, building at Randolph to house ink Mr Force person- nel management facilities at that location. 'The Senate conferees were of the opinion ?that the increased management efficiency and economies that would result from the centralization of personnel management fa- cilities at Randolph would more than justify the conetruction cost involved in this re- location. The House conferees. therefore, receded from their position and aceepted the Senate ounendment. 'Laredo Air Force Base, Laredo, Tex, ? The Howse had provided authorization In the amount of 53.134,000 to be accomplished 'at an air training command facility to be selected by the Department of Defense. The House Committee on Armed Services in testi- mony provided it by witnesses of the De- pinninent of the Air Force was of the opinion thee this construction would be effected at Laredo Air Force Base. This opinion was subsequently confirmed by cor'respondence received from the Department. Subsequent- ly, the Senate In acting on this authorization request, deleted the item In Its entirety. The House conferees pointed out that a serious deficit in the number of pilots in the Air Force will exist throughout the foresee- able future unless the production of new -pilots is Increased. The House conferees also pointed out that Laredo Air Force Base Is ideally suited for this 'purpose. However. construction is required to insure appro- priate training facilities for the pilot train- Mg which should occur at this base. The Senate conferees were of the opinion tint this entire project could be deterred another year Atter eoneelerable olacusaion, the sonfertr, pao,.lde the Arta ha- crernent ot ,,tith:lzatton tor No 174----l3 am.000 Thisiiiithorleatinnie the *Unite*: not. Roo of, a lighting deftarCy on tins runway Mr - - approach to the Ina. ? ? ' - 'eau otz the remaining Mae dans for Laredo Air r Porta Rao which were deferred should be ifts' raltdirlitOta,b7 'OSP DOPIrtrusta tor ripooti- adoration by th41 Houlsr.111) connectlaWidtli the Elspartassat% flacel. year lOSS cauldroa, OltitilleabortiatiOn Sigtrieet. Thai, this Item ail be given new consideration in the nest ?P dsr'. - ? Bistitep Air lioice trio, Wriatiligion, D.C.. Holton. _AS In SUS Mae .,of Port ifyer, va?.. nentios believed that Wend provision moat ?i"." be made to provide adequate quarters toe Sealer bachelor military personnel in the Wash. Burton_ Mgt= area and, Maoism', restored 114 roil- ,k4",isr lion of the amount requested for troop n,??..??"-"'"" 'Inn" housing at Bolling Air Faroe Baas The - original request made by the Department and deleted by the House amounted to $6.0 million. The House receded from its posi- tion and accepted the Senate amendment. 813M1KAZT OR TIM I= Differences in dotter authorization As the bill passed the House, the total authorities granted amounted to $1,636,- 828,000. The corresponding authority granted in the Senate version of the bill totaled $1,- 686.861.390, or .49.033.380 more than the House version. The total agreed to by the conferees is 0.425.000 more than the House version and $43,608,000 leas than the Senate version. Total authorization, fiscal year 1964, as ap- proved by House-Senate conferees New authorization: Title I (Army) Title II (Navy) ...... Title III (Air Force) Title IV (Defense agencies) _ Title V (housing) Subtotal Deficiency authorization: Title 1 (Army) Title II (Navy) Title III (Air Force) Total Title VII (Pleserve compo- nents): . Army National Guard Army Reserve Naval and Marine Corps Reserve Air National Guard Air Force Reserve Total Deficiency authorizations: Army National Guard Army Reserve 5199, 633, 000 202.482, 000 488. 307. 000 24, 403,000 686. 312. 000 1,600, 177.000 9. 209, 000 07,000 166, 000 3.462. 000 7.600, 000 4.700,000 6. 700, 000 15. 970. 280 4, 600, 000 88. 470. 860 84.000 60, 000 Total 144,000 Grand total of all au- thorisations 1, 642, 253,380 CARL Vursos. L. Marna Rivas, Pit1f.11. J. PICIZZIN, Lsam C. Ammo, P. Rasmus IIRRERT, WAL711 Noesiss, Friettua Saves. Managers on the Part 01 the House. CALL OF THE 110IISE Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, I make the point of order that a quorum ts not present. Derails%) ' Dowdy Feighan Feed Fraser Fuqua Grant Green, Pa. Harding Harris Harsh& "Itiseth Nadi Zell" Laniderd Loot. La: Martin, Callte,....= - May Stiller, N.Y, tayler Montoya /twosomes. Morrison ThonspeoneN4,. Morton. Md. Tollefson Mend Utt O'Brien., III. White The SPEAKER On .thia =Wall 362 members have answered to their Barnes, a quorum. By unanimous consent; farther pro- ceedings under the call were dispensed with. COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS Ur. MILLS. Mr. Speaker, I- ask unan- imous 'consent that the Committee on Ways and Means have until midnight Monday, November 4, -1963;40111g a re. port on HR. 8969, along with any mi- nority or supplemental views thereon. The SPEAKER. Is therectohkaction-te''''' the request of the gentleman' from Ar- kansas? There was no objection. ' ???????????- CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY RETIREMENT ACT OP- 1963 ?El'OR ? CERTAIN EMPLOYEKS Mr. DELANEY. Mr. speaker,- by di- rection of the Committee on Rules, I tall up House Resolution 843 and ask for its immediate corusMeration. The Clerk read as follows:, ?' _ Resolved, That upon the adoption eit-thle resolution It shall be in orals to snows that the Houle resolve itself Into The aisnardttes of the Whose House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the Mil (21.R. 8427) to provide for the establishment and maintenance of a Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Disability System /or a dm.; lted number of employees, and for other put- 'poses. After general debate; which shall confined to the bill and shall eantIrme nat to exceed two hours, to be equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on Armed Services, the bill shall be read for amendment under the tive-gusrme rule. At the conclusion of the corunderation of .the bill for amendment, the Committee shall rise and report the bill to the House with such amendments as may have been adopted, and the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to final passage without intervening motion except one motion to recommit. Kr. DELANEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIDP78-03 ? CONGRESSQNAL cork (Mrs: Sr. Grout) and periti- ? at,,1 yield myself Such time 'its I Y.Perisrte? ? ;Bpeaker. House Resolution' 543 for.. consideration of H.R. 8427, irtivide for the establishment intenence of a Central Weill-. ,AgenCy" ritiretnent and disability Mclof a iinjted, number of employ- end-foie ? er purposes." The reseal- an 'open rule with '2` hours att. sirekent t:trie all employees of *tIlntelligence Agency are Urn. ltd the ,normal civil service retire- ? ment'benetita. On the other hand, more liberal retirement benefits have been in. ? effect for many years for the Foreign Service and for certain personnel en- gaged In investigation and detection of crime and apprehension of criminals. Many CIA employees serve under condi- tions which are at the least as difficult and frequently more dangerous than the ? conditions which led to improved retire- ment benefits for the Foreign Service and certain personnel of the FBI and other agencies. CIA employees who will come under the proposed system are obligated ? to serve anywhere in the world according tc 'he needs of the Agency, as is the case in the Foreign Service and the military, and unlike the normal civil service ern- ploYees. It seems only right that such employess should receive benefits similar to those benefits received by 'Foreign Service personnel. Mr. Speaker. I urge adoption of House Resolution 543. Mrs. ST. GEORGE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may con- sume. Mr. Speaker, this resolution, as has already been stated, makes in order the consideration of H.R. 8427 to provide for the establishment and maintenance of a Central Intelligence Agency retirement and disability system for a limited num- ber of employees, and for other pur- poses. Mr. Speaker, the Committee on Rules held hearings on H.R. 8427 on October 9, 1963. The Armed Services Commit- tee hearings and the report on H.R. 8427 stressed that only those employees en- gaged in the conduct and support of in- telligence activities, meaning hazardous duty or service in foreign countries, will be eligible for an improved retirement and disability program. This, of course, we all agree is right and proper and, Indeed, necessary. Mr. Speaker, during the Rules Com- mittee hearings it was brought out that the bill 'itself did not contain the lan- guage limiting the program to em- ployees on such duty, However, in the course of our deliberations it was suggested that an amendment would be offered by the committee. To this, T am happy to say the Committee on Armed Services and the subcommittee agreed wholeheartedly. Mr. Speaker. it Is my understanding ? that this amendment will be offered on page 3, beginning at line 13 and going through line 21 This would tighten up the bill. It ail] write into the bill exact- ly what the committee Intended. It will make a differential between people ho are performing simph ordinary duty in CIA hazardous bcCupdikto Mr. Speaker, I Ulpkyit1i amend- ment there is . certa14y no objection to the bill nd,..I.-Fge tht adoption of Ui rule. ?- ' Mr. 00.988, , gentlewoman Veldt' Mrs. ST, GEORGE. 1 Yield to I-U.T committee friend. the . gentleman from Iowa (Mr has Mr.GRE. iTias ;ny given to the Con ti Committee on Rules why this bill Went to _the CoMmittee?On Armed Services of the House .of, Re1,- resentatives rather than to the Com- mittee on Post Offices and Civil Service which handles other retirement legisla- tion? Mrs. ST. GEORGE.. Well, it was, My understanding, may I say to the gentle- man from Iowa, that the CIA has usually been under the Defense Department. Therefore. it was considered proper that this should go to the Committee on Armed Services. I do not think there was very much questioning on that par- ticular subject. may I say to the gentle- man from Iowa. Mr. GROSS. Is the CIA subject to the jurisdiction of the Secretary of De- fense? Mrs. ST. GEORGE. No one seems to know to whom they are subject. I may say to the gentleman. One cannot find out how many people are employed in the Agency and one cannot find out ex- actly what their duties are. We heard varying figures. It is a very hush-hush, secret organization. As long as the gentleman brings the subject up, I think we might also say that Americans are not very accustomed to dealing with cloak-and-dagger or- ganizations. This is one, perhaps, that we are not too well fitted to discuss. Mr. GROSS. I am sure we all had dif- ficulty finding out what part the CIA played in the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Mrs. ST. GEORGE. I agree with the gentleman. It is very difficult to find these things out but, perhaps, that has to be so in an organization of this kind. Mr. RYAN of New York. Mr. Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield? Mrs. ST. GEORGE. I yield to the gen- tleman from New York. Mr. RYAN-of New York. I WU inter- ested in the remarks of the gentlewoman concerning the CIA and the cloak of se- crecy surrounding it. I am reminded that there are a number of bills pending In the Congress. I am the author of one. -House Joint Resolution 145. which would establish a special watchdog committee over the CIA. Certainly recent events in South Vietnam confirm the need for a Joint Committee on Foreign Information and Intelligence to oversee the CIA. I hope the Rules Committee will report out one these bills with as much expedition as this bill has been reported out. - Mrs. ST. GEORGE. I am a very hum- ble member of the Rules Committee, so I can do very little in assisting the gentle- man in his desires. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Mr. Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield? Mrs. ST. GEORGE. I yield to the gen- tIcrium from South Carolina. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina_ Mr. the WasctVit. Act. 'It is as' It Is reaponsiblejo United Stott* Mrs.' SZ gri4R.OW-1. tion . def env of our eistmtrilh Proper that it Should beim tleman's committee. Mr.' RIVERS of South t,a, tO gentlewoman is absoltitely poi Mrs. ST, GEORGE. yield 5 minutes to the geritle California IMr. Suva],. - -- (Mr. SMITH of California-. was given permission to. r tend his remarks.) - Mr. SMITH of California. , Speaker, as stated by the, gentleyck from New York, there were quest/0E4' the minds of members_of the Rules Co mittee as to whether the la:ttguage?14 , this bill will do what the proponents"' want it to do. Accordingly. -certain: amendments were worked out. The gentlewoman from New York [Mrs. ST. GEORGE] showed them to me, and I itultr ? gest.ed that the language be further tied together to make certain that we are re erring to those employees abroid'It are Also pngaced in 41:ip,tardous WOii The amendment- does not do - that, will include every employee working abroad. At the time, told the-gentle- woman from New York ? (Mrs. 'ST. GEORGE] that evert if this amendment were agreed to. that I Persona,' would not support the bill. :- Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina.' Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SMITH of California. I yield to the gentleman from South Carolina. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina., assure the gentleman right now that is not, the intention, that is as thet.,(04.fol. man stated it. . ? .- Mr. SMITH of California. Th;t the way your amendment reads. - Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina.- do not think so, and we do not oaneliter It as such. In my later disetutalen_k. will cover the history of this leg...4146p, to that there will be no question *Pout; it. - _ - Mr. SMITH of California, I think It would be much better if-we took sections_ 1 and 2 and placed them in this law 104 that we know that, rather than making__ legislative history, so that the two would. be tied together. I personally am not support of this particular bill., - Mr. Speaker, I am not refusing to sup- port this measure because I do not be- lieve that the employees are entitled to it. My refusal is because I just do not know whether 0: :1.,t they are entitled to it I know No I,tt;.- rt!Jout the CIA and their act1 itlea. thaz I no not wish to pass Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 196s Appfoved Foteemsgailak _fartherfsgtilaliorkwhichwillH' farther**. feanklio &UM.* 'bet* luulsdadeA:- lairukhchey right it that lthaii, the naspensibility about au. then * de; aq to isle that Ooluitreu not:Only hail the bury lime 111- , ' 100050011=2 to know moileibOat ? Men of that the tielqb011,0t" tieditiltitidrthat'aentneWitegabese;!4 ? do not know the annual*Olt -00h*. the Rottee4411 Emote committees -*et It would not =lien* if It Were Direaiori than *Minos rilliall?e ? - tieing& established. But even en Cf)naultteet"111Vrelell U4416?11?6 would think of dans anYthjur to I dile lot lenew how ilitentaghly they our security. -so %imams po .Me check the, settrities 4:4 the VIA.' should have some *eel eliettMi 41iPperrillae7Ot 4,111PiergiO, Sabotage, Sialtehdog towniMillwe Sant liteibeetioia elemntinlistir and inter- fhit and nal seettrity imentigeitoris In the Los `upon ihd With the CIA so that Angeles 'ankle of the PSI prior to and rest of the 'Members would have, during s Portion of World War it, r am aware that this work is sometimes has, ardous. There is no doubt that if-the CIA is 'doing its job in espionage and eounterespionage, that some of the em- ployees are engaged in hazardous work. Butin many ways, it is probably no more hazardous than that of the PSI, the Secret Service, the Narcotics Bureau, or for that matter, the daily work of many policemen here in Washington, D.C. repeat. Mr. Speaker,! am not cupoe- trig this measure because / do not think CIA is deserving of it. It is because of the fact that I know so little about their activities. am not criticizing the CIA or commending them, because again I do not know enough of their activities to take either position. But do have some questions in my mind that I be- lieve should be answered. And I believe they can be answered without Interfer- ing with their activitie& How Many employees are there in the CIA?-1,000,, 5,000, 10,000. 15,000 or more. I am in- clined to feel that there are probably more than 15,000 but hive nothing to factually so state. 'How Many employees are there in London? England has its men intelligence and counterintelligence people. We are claw allies. If CIA Is engaged in counter- intelligence activities in London, they certainly must be working directly with appropriate English authorities. I would like to know the answer to this. Certainly if the English authorities had any evidence of espionage in the United States, or wished any Information, they could send one man to see Director Hoover of the PBI, and appropriate in- vestigation would be commenced within the hour, throughout the United States If necessary. and the English investi- gator would be kept completely in- formed. if there are 200 employees in London, which I have heard, but cannot state as a fact, what are they doing? I think we are entitled to know something about this, Mr. Speaker. Testimony before Rules indicated that this measure would apply to about 30 percent of the employees. I ask 30 per- cent of how many. I also think we are entitled to know something about what their activities were prior to the Bay of Pigs in Cuba. I have beard rumors that their information was incorrect and that the CIA was greatly responsible for this horrible event should Members of Con- gress not. be entitled to know of these activities and to in some way have at least a little control over the CIA? Very emia 14 time thiOnt )icm- mien ohndluth?et * Prnslident- Board ofbotil r congrewgreai teelteanteence In n? Vern*, ;-'ims. AallekterstmotT. it.1.1.4khertier. In the Senate on the 27 geova."-!1/417 abolders the 0.11:421itrpi, te re thMis,3de.; ? . Idea as to what is going on. whetheLire - Sir. A -Will thegeniI we doing ow' lob so far the ',coed frotithle?tiptat,iki?' concerned, and whether or not leteidee? ALBPRT. I am not MA' tion such as the 'Pandit* bill Is wag- ? tomakes conunitment, at ranted. 'Mr. HALLECK. 31r. Spai, After the hearing in Rules and the kenteeputit sew? ,- hewePaPer summate' I. received er)Me lir. AVERY. X seeld to -mil' anonymous letters /roil persons testing igh . tahed odhorio, &touter, they were eunkneiee the ,?840.HALLECEI., 1; would Just4?Iiit*441, of the comments were: asy to the.. gentlemen. and lee, all ltat If CIA were bent on wrecking the morale members at she moose. I have hart the c4 its smPle= it fwaid not nnd a tea"' test solicitude for the. Malthus' ? instrument this vicious piece of leg- . *dation which will sweat in attracdng an convenience, and I residinti, of tom" the Inferior group of sesPlelees' situation that confronts our noiletiguee, and so far as my ova persons' situate)* Another quote: Is concerned. I would litre tit tnow, in I personally Imam benent from this bel. advance what we coo figure, oh and de. but lt " ?avians Just in inT envie tani al" nand an es to the anrangemente. bill will result in a lessening of the inter- _ _ iave est and dedication of CIA eanployees. APOiren it/ maiorii7 leader Wei ready employees in their thirties are roaming distinguished Speaker of the House about plans to get advanced degrees by going to the whole situation, and as ler es lam night school., thereby lessening the etrectere: concerned, I want to say to ea friend. new of their daily wort, in order to get $ the gentleman from Kansas. I Shall do better position outside when 'their 50th birth- vs ow to try. to work oat some advance ., day comes around. I suggert that you con- bounce ot the yew suit not the "chiefs" but KOMI or the NICa- sais"11 - ""'" dialle. in CIA to gain a true wicture of what West= sinitszertaY. we er going 40r be Is involved in this proposed personnel posy. here until we start on. ione2aairegeleeliette . AVERY- Then le I repeat once again, Mr- SPeaker' that Mr. 31r Speaker. to nonnative; it liege . I have no intentions whatsoever of outs; what I have . h'! Ives the, imam_ gulthed majority lender and the .11ille everything I can to help. But I hist ing any harm to the CIA. I want to do Unguished Minority, 'leader,AliM- 'the canna 11149eit thusthy Itirti,n3er, statement in the other body-that this compound a mestere. ??? sedition Is going to be "backeto-badte posed to this measure. wtth the next session-4 this a zessone ? Mrs. ST. 0E0E0E. Mr. Speaker. I awe asamption that we probably win Yield a thinutee the gentlemen fresh continue In tauten to thee Chiestmas Kansas Mfr. Amy]. holidays? Would the gentlemareereira Mr. AVERY. Mr. Speaker, I urge the to ed to adoption of the rule. It has been so well arishbrsa owe ?opt Mr. ALBERT. I think the gentlemanexpfurthlaienret coI could add.thillreeveofrrl Yiringotioe has the same knc"Led_Fe221?...the the presence on the Boor of the major- Ily! _Program as 4.1" ity leader, and would appreciate blast- Oklahoma. ? tention. I notice the other body was ad- Mr. AVERY. The gentleman ,Ol viseci yesterday as to how they might Oklatiorea pals me a great tribute And proceed to plan for the weeks ahead. I am not sure it IS, deserTed, it was helpful indeed to learn that their Mr. ALBERT, I em pre U tnie, Thanksgiving recess has already been I am sure all the Members of the douse fixed. Their Christmas schedule has ale know what etIII.,*_aa ready become a matter of record. I won- Ing which inese' be akted tipOie der if we could be privileged to have the ? think the statenient that the gentleMarl same information in this body, refers to as having been, made. In the Mr. ALBERT. 31r. Speaker, will the other body could well be correct, But I Sentleman yield? want to Join the .diStingnigh_ed Irdnorlq Mr. AVERY. I would be delighted to leader In doing erei 7tlitng eitn. anal yield to the gentleman from Oklahoma. am sure that in saying this I speak, for Mr. ALBERT. First of all, this is a our distinguished Speaker of the House matter that would be cleared on both also, in trying to determine when and sides of the aisle, but I would like to how much time Members of the House remind the gentleman that the Veterans' can have off consistent with the legisla- Day vacation in the other body is from tore responsibilities of the House of November 8 to November 12. That Representatives. Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 : (41 .1 0- , proviali queetton we. /t'1:3t..,.4 r " %- ? ;011161.014404 MIS agreed to.. -iitotinteln.gticonaider was 104 on tbS 5C-V6 ? 4: 7:1'; ."av #"."7"!"!. ?m-il!!".7."'- ? FLtr411014..ratopiscrriTR', -Mr. Speaker; it privilfged.rerieintickti: and saki: , ltnnkeditittt "lionstderst4 The 9ictlyri-ii: read as 1114.,00. Avnt(li.e et`41441;0044, honey ligeteig-s elakots,.be..seet ne 7,000Pera eet.. P 502' tegen tq. wonder I:108114m up for -the remainder of -.this -yeer it, raigh - net tuilloUneecl; UV, the 4,oiree., rather standirig contanttee at the ?tiats -.IMPrefeeff..*Arent-ent, t -A,61,..nel'r,aeTttl.r4veg Gri Interior an.fI Thauiir `M.00,105 nt'ara-urtPr-.J:Atn, .tttiaN- - ? ittiOetno attglatieltre:,, -agreedst,9 ' ? " .?? Pertinent. to; tin kl ell are than through the ?newspapers and over the radio. 14,r A,LBERT 6Peaker will the tI;Linall yield? " Mr. AVERY. I yield t4 the gentleman Mr. ALBERT. I think that any an- nouncement that the majority leader will make. and I am sure I am speaking for both sides on this matter, will be made first to the House of Representatives and not first to the press or to anyone else. Mr. CEDERBERG. Mr. Speaker, will ? the gentleman yield? Mr, AVERY. I yield to the gentle- man. Mr. CEDERBERG. Would the dis- ting-uished majority leader advise us if It might not, be possible rather than to have a new session start on January 3 to have it start later on in the month and to request the President to bring in the state of the Union message and the new budget message late ln January because we will not be finished with the old budget anyway until we get the new one. If we earl get that,,maybe we can get a oeuple,of days eacatlom--% - - Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? .., Mr. AVERY. I yield to the gentle- man. Mr. ALBERT. First of all, that would have to be done by a joint resolution or a concurrent resolution because the law requires that the Congress convene on January 3. I think here again it would depend on the legislative situation. Cer- tainly, it would be a convenience to the Members individually, and to me per- sonally, if we could do so. That Is os far as I can go at this time with respect to that sort of arrangement. Mr. COLLIER, Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. AVERY. I yield to the gentleman. Mr. COLLIER. In the light of the urgency of the problems before the Con- gress this year, is it possible that we might run Into this situation during the two national conventions in 1964? Mr. AVERY. That question should certainly be more properly addressed to one In a position more able to respond than the gentleman now in the well. May I express my appreciation to the gentleman from Oklahoma, and I am sure I speak for all Members present, for the enlightenment we have received to- day. I yield back the balance of my time. Mrs ST. GEORGE. Mr. Speaker,. I have no further reqUestS for time,. The t*iickl;dtkork (R. it4;4 . point .q ato n' to ."reeeetaidee a with 'PeePOzt,14:t. Attila the table. considered , Pea, . ,eln gated in writing to serve anywhere in the world that Agency needs would require. Upon my initial assignment to the CIA subcommittee, it came as a latepriee, to me to learn that. all Agency employees received only the normal *II ?pervtoct, Se- tiretnent beneflta. I had asionned'there was a program to afford.earlier sitire- ment, such as that availabto,to the Foe- sign Service or the benellta offered to agents of the Federal Bureau of Diets* " gation, which enables the agent to re- tire voluntarily at age 50 upon coral:de": (Joe of 20 years of service. The CIA's need to have ?a young And virile group of career people =tanning their oversee posts needs tio. elabbrar tion. I became personally convinced Ott the need for this type of Rregraiti.,a4 a, uy duty, 1 days'a W , 4?), CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY RETIREMENT ACT OF 1953 FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYEES Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina, Mr. Speaker, I move that the House resolve Itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the bill (H.R. 842'7l to provide for the establishment and main- tenance of a Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Disability System for a limited number of employees, and for other purposes. The motion was agreed to; accord- ingly, the House resolved itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the bill H.R. 3427 with Mr. 'brows in the result of months of brieiblits,preeen_ teal - CT.balr,,,;m3urritt op. Tux wHoLz? Mite; CarivialbeOces conin:HROtAtetttute,mubltarritUSP . The Clerk read Utle of ? the bill. ings on HR. 8427 convinced me that this legislation is the apprriprlate, Inest.t?- Put into effect an Unproved retirement system, ?.?."? Now, as to the legislation: ? One of the key features is the right 01 - the employee to apply for voluntary re"; Urement upon reaching age 50 a hyauut a minimum of 20 years of aerVici. Such retirement, however, must- be with .the consent of the Director, and In pedal cases where a man's &entices'. bret' needed he will be required, tck' MM. the Agency's requirementehaog met, : . Another important feature of Ullabill is the authority of the Agency:to retire people when It is determined that thilti the beet course of action. In this. Stem.: ton., where the employee 114it, eadc of 06-14 and aboee he wil1;,*pon being retired, receive an, iounediate suundty: regardless of age. Ate amount of tills annuity in the case of a min With 20 By unanimous consent, the first read- ing of the bill was dispensed with. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from South Carolina Mfr. Reims] will be recognized for 1 hour and the gentle- man from Massachusetta [Mr. BATES) will be recognized for 1 hour.. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may require. Mr. Chairman, H.R. 8427 is a bill to give the Central Intelligence Agency a better retirement system for a limited number of its employees. At the present time, all regular em- ployees of the Agency are oovered by the normal civil service retirement system. Many positions in the CIA do not war- rant special retirement treatment of course, but about 30 percent of the total employees work under conditions Oieti clearly require an improved retirement and disability system. I would like to point out that this leg- islation establishes no precedent since it was determined that the Agency retire- ment system should be patterned after that now applicable to the Foreign Serv- ice. Careful examination indicated that the Foreign Service system had sufficient flexibility and other improvements to meet CIA's requirements. The CIA pre- sented convincing proof that those ern- years of service would he 40 percent ot the highest average annual salary for any 5 consecutive years. ? The? tleeinlitr tee examined this provisi6ri most care- fully and the bill H.R. 8421 -reflects a change we made that in orde4te qualify , for this immediate annuity CUte individ- ual must have had at least 5 years of what is termed "qualifying service," which means service of a nature which would fit him to be covered by the system Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 (pLye,41 For Release 2002/03/20,:f CONGRESSIONAI, ve had- at?lean. the Agency. mci?should tiTe Of an- ',Periods of both end 'service person, kivolim- 08-13?or below b may elect Cf baa at least 5 years toilette? his el, and draw a' de( ato. Or he may slily re, 'Contribution& In addition he Wetild grant,eil separation Pee' based on elilorittee sialax7 for each ye ar of merebies'bUt hi no event to exceed a total of 'L year*- ti :Salary. The commit- tee believes this prevision is genera/ In line" wttli'ltopsestiort compensation available in militare service and is not unreasonable wlerea Man has joined the Agency with the-expectation of a career and because of shifts in requirements Is unable to beesetained by the Agency. This separation compensation will per- mit him a period of readjustment. pos- sibly taking necessary training to equip himself for a position in industry or in another branch of Government I believe this new system win be an extremely valuable tool in the manage- ment of the Agency and will materially assist in attracting and retaining the extremely, high caliber men and women the Agency needs for its demanding pro- grams. As indicated by the published hearings and the report, the Armed Serv- ices Committee has looked painstakingly at this proposal and has examined Agency witnesses most carefully. Where necessary, the committee made changes Item the oeiginal proposal, which you will end in the report, The cost Is reasonable, leveling off at about $580,000 per year. Let us turn for a moment to the re- cent press criticism of the Central In- telligence Agency. Obviously such criti- cism is not the proper basis to form a judgment on this bill?indeed it is not a proper basis on which to form a judg- ment of the Agency itself. The scope and ferocity of these press attacks brought a response?not from the Agen- cy which very properly should not and , does not respond to press criticism?the response was from the President. He was asked about a recent story on CIA In his press conference on October 9. I quote his answer: I must say I think the reports are wholly untrue. The fact of the matter is that Mr, McColl. (CIA Director) sits In the National Security COUrteil'? ? " we have worked very closely together in the National Security Council in the last 2 months attempting to meet the problems we faced in South Viet- nam. I can find nothing, and I have looked through the record very carefully over the last 9 months, and I could go back further, to indicate that the CIA has done anything but support policy. It does not create pol- icy; it attempts to execute it in those area* where it has competence and responsibility. I know that the transfer of Mr. John Rich- aidson, who is a very dedicated public serv- ant. has led to surmises, but I can Just as- burs you flatly that the CIA ham not carried 0.11 il,dependent activities but has operated ur,cler close control of the Dircctor of Central Ititel!igence, operating with the cooperation -RDP7.8e03721A000100050011- SE.*:. of the ioutt;i4feeenrity-Ooun my instructions ? 'lee .1 thinic they have. done A 1300d SOO. , Ass Member of the CIA SilliconiMittee of the Muse AENXid 5el:910ell COgnmitkoe. I believe I am also in a position to Mike a judgmerit on the Apiece. In My ?Mul- len, I believe the Agency is doing se bril- Dant Sib under most trying etrann? stances " For those who contend that the Con- gress falls to exercisCguperrisiozi Over CIA, I would like to state the facts.. The,' Armed Services Committee has legbilae_ tire jurisdiction over CIA and for rtsnY years, the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Vreisoel has appointed a subcommittee whose sole function is to review Agency activities. This subcommittee present- ly has as Its chairman, the gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Cage Vinson, arid I am proud to serve under him on this sub- committee. The other Members are: EDWARD HEBERT, WINDY Pace, CHARLIE E. BENNETT, GEORGE H17DDLESTON. JR.. LESLIE C. ARENDS, Wneette G. BlUiY. BCE Wresox, and FRANK C. OSME1Ull, die. As a matter of policy, the subcommit- tee has endeavored to meet with the Di- rector and other Agency officials at least once a month to conduct an examina- tion of its activities on a worldwide basis. In the course of these hearings we re- ceive substantive intelligence briefings to keep us up to date on happenings throughout the world. It is the purpose of the subcommittee to fully inform it- self on all aspects of Agency operations Including its organizational structure and personnel practices. The Director of Central Intelligence has emplaned with the subcommittee the most sensitive of Agency operations in order that the members be fully informed. At time I, as a member, am concerned with the sensitivity of the; information and its serious nature for fear that I might inadvertently endanger someone's life or a highly successful operation. The Director of Central Intelligence has been most candid with the subcom- mittee in discussing plans for future ac- tivities and we have witnessed a num- ber of significant improvements in the Agency since the current Director has been in office. On occasion the subcom- mittee has deemed it necessary to con- duct thorough reviews of the Agency to assure itself that all possible steps were being taken by CIA and the intelligence community as a whole to insure that adequate intelligence is available to those who must make the policy decisions? further, to insure that polleymakers have the benefit of as full information as possible including skilled evaluation of the raw information utilizing thor- oughly professional analysis and re- search. As to CIA conducting independent op- eration in pursuance of its own policy, the subcommittee has examined very closely the machinery by which the Agency is in fact responsible to the pol- icymakers. Under the existing proced- ural machinery, the Agency simply can- not operate independently nor does it in fact operate as a policymaking organ of Government. The Director is directly responsible to the President and estab- itrnsiedttsee irietiTet tions at the Agency are In netecl with and responsive US thalpolictes of the -Government. I Migh this is true not only et the but it is also true at the, In foreign coUntrica where mount role of the Ansbaseador eepted by all agencies. , However, let us return which is the lame totter. - The committee hag u ported this legislatiOn;" Members of the:Rouse lee merit& l am sure most It favorable. _ Before I ?or/elude. I would. vise the House that .1 propel() to amendment to aft. 1422 to ofititic kind of duty that must be,Perforinetles before the +Director can: designate the e Individuals who will be permnted to Pere ticipate in this liberalized retirement system. I discussed this matter with members of the Rules Committee and members of, my committee, and I propose to offer an amendment to sec on 203 of the M. Under this section. as it is now written. - the Director may designate the officer, and employees who will be entitled to - the benefits of the system. The amend- ment I will offer would change the lan- guage to read as follows: On page 3, lines 13 to le, strike out the first sentence of section 203, and sub- stitute in lieu thereof the following lan- - guage: The Director may designate from time to - time such Agency officers and employees whoa? duties are determined by the Director ? to be (I) in support of Agency actisitlea abroad hazardous to life or health Cc (U) Jo specialized because of security requtrallentil- as to be clearly distinguishable from normal Government employment, hereafter ref-creeds to ea participants, who shall be enUtlid to the benefits of the system. Mr. WAGGONNER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. RIVERS of South Cerolina. I am constrained to yield to my friend, the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. WAG - CONNER I. Mr. WAGGONNER. I have been ad- . vised that in this proposed legislation there are the usual prohibitions against drawing retirement pay in eases involv- ing Personnel who are reemployed by the ; Government by some other agency: is that correct? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina, That is eight The gentleman is right. Now that is the bill. Let me sum- marize it for you again: First. Retirement at the age of 50 with a total of 20 years of service, 5 years of which must have been with the. Agency. The employee must apply for the retirement and receive the permis- sion of the Director. Second. The Director may involun- tarily retire individuals and where they are in the grade of 08-I4 and above, they will be entitled to receive an imme- diate annuity regardless of age _pro- vided, however, they have 5 years of qualifying service and a total of 10 years service with the Agency, and Third The Director may retire em- ployees in the grades of GS-13 and be- Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 roved For RtiltiatigitaesiMMI. ilLIKAIRD8-EiStOtifebo 100050011-2 October their lives and are in danger et7leeill"rie11-1'e7ic34V?e their lives. / Wish r 0001a lei thilieeeeepine.?What_I think Is a' gook Mittee the areas where these pebte are In tower echelons of peop languishing in jails and where they -have, :Performing clerical and j faced firing squads all over the world. It ;work they are geting salaries Is a terrifying thing. If you kne*Weiat . people Aolnir similar or exsi I know, you would ear to me that there Werlitin ether agenceikof area lot better ways of makinga4ving'. Meittaieletleirilt_e 'Th0.:01O.ife than working for the CIA.'2wOttlelee shi:eCOMparable polikkp ?Mr. HOLIFIELLI I am glad the gen- er flete:for that. Do you have tleman brought this point out becmtie. MeriltOMake on this? - as a member of the Joint Commiteeken ..M:r.'ItIVERS off iScititek Atomic Energy, we have had. OlOWyJa aleCtieie a bit of comment to tionsliips with the-CIA,. We know Whist" idief"rddnot oeueselti.n. , the gentleman from South Carolina "aye - Mr, JONES 'of Misseani$ Is true, that there are people who have,from a sienoi that r think Is served in this organization who are in appreciate the fact that" this.' entitled to notion' inethe Salary for r: ' each Of 1* yea simian; Will th daitlina. rnan .. t'f-ePrould 'like to ti man from South eubeetnittee; the teeMbers of the full com- mittee te?r bringing this bill out. As I understand it, this covers a personnel areieNviiitelhas not been covered hereto- fort:. it 'affords retirement privileges identical t,o those in the Foreign Service; ia that torrect? The grades under grade 0844 are ?already covered by the normal civil service retirement regulations. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. The genlleman referred to grades under GS-14? - Mr. HOLIFIELD. Yes, under grade 08-14. egr, RIVERS of South Carolina, Not all qualified employees normally em- ployees are covered by the civil service system. Let us call them agents. Agents without the qualifying service are not covered. Mr. HOLIFTELD. In other words. agents who do not have the qualifying service under civil service are the ones who are not covered; is that correct? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. That is correct. Mr. HOLIFIELD. But under this bill they will be covered and the benefits they will draw will be similar or the same as thgee of Menke In the Foreign Service. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. That is correct. Mr. HOLIFIELD. You spoke of the right of the Director to retire agents under certain conditions. Does this give the Director any additional power to fire or hire people besides the power he has already? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. No, but the Director must have this au- thority. Mr. HOLIFIELD Yes, he must have this authority. Your reference to them is to see that they get certain annuities In case they are relieved of their duties? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. That is right?to give them security. You rnest remember these agents sign a let- ter before they go on duty that they will serve anywhere on earth. 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. It is a very de- manding service. Mr. ,HOLIFIELD. That is correct. Many of these people being covered by this bill have served in places where it was dangerous for thein. They have assumed duties in espionage which have endangered their lives and, in fact, some of them have lost their lives as a result of this service; is this not true? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I am delighted that, the gentleman asked that question. The gentleman has asked a question?if some of these agents are serving in dangerous places and have lost jail and some have lost their lives. Fur- thermore, they are also in. a sitiuttion where they cannot be protected Of they cannot be claimed as a member of the CIA in the event they are captured .and Jailed in a foreignesountry. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina: If I should tell you how many of these agents we have on! I should give you some sort of a number of the agents that we have, the Soviets could merely by a matter of arithmetic figure them out and ferret them out. For instance, when the Director de- cides to separate a man he cannot go into court with his case under this bill, be- cause if he did, any espionage 'person could figure out exactly who these peo- ple are, how many they are, and what they do. We cannot permit this. This espionage business is a dangerous busi- ness: it is not one that I would be in. We have never been in it before. But, has it ever occurred to you and to the other members of the committee as to the vast system of the Soviets? They have thou- sands upon thousands upon thousands of agents in this world. We must have this agency and we must give them this benefit. Let me say this to the gentleman: we permit the Federal Bureau of Investiga- tion employees to retire at an earlier age than other people. Do you know why? It is because they are under such a ter- rible strain all the time. They must be Oven this right; otherwise they will shake themselves to pieces. They have to have it. and this organization here must have this. Mr. HOLIFIELD. I think the gentle- man has done a good thing in bringing out this bill. I want to express my sup- port for it. I believe every Member, who knows the workings of this organization, who knows the dedication of these people and has had the privilege of meeting many of these people in the course of their congressional duties, can certainly subscribe to this. I hope this bill will pass unanimously. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I thank the gentleman, Mr. JONES of Missouri, Mr. Chair- man, will the gentleman yield? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I yield to the gentleman from Missouri. Mr. JONES of Missouri. Mr. Chair- man, one thing the speaker has not brought out is the wage differential that exists between persons employed in the Central Intelligence Agency as compared with those employed in other agencies of Agency has to operate under anYal great secrecy. Mr. ?RieTER13 of South Cam certainly. Mr. JONES of times they are inclined to- catty' ridiculous. For inistanoi: had* perience, and I am going to lebite Order to 'einphasize the point ratit, to make.' At the time of the tee2101014etie I was concerned about what hattleeneeee pened there. I think our Govert=tee. suffered great damage because of..eeeeeee ments that went out at that thsie4hlielts-:: - were not true. So. I made an apriailit-T'-: ment with Mr. Dulles to talk to bins about this thing. He tried to explain it , - to me, but I did not get much infonnae. tion.. In his old headquarters therbat. a picture of the new CIA building. Just ? - out of idle curiosity more than anything else, I said. "Mr. Dulles, how maw pea- pie will be employed in this new build- - ing?" He said. "Oh. we cannot tell you = that. That is secret." Tome that was an asinine *reply to a question, because think anyone knows that there was secrecy with regard to the number of I, - people to be employed in that new.buildeeee lug out at the Central Intelligence Ageri- - cy, because anybody who knows any:. thing about trying to estimate the num- ber of employees in a building could have, gotten it very well; or for that matter one could count the employees entering and leaving by public highway. The thing that disturbs me about this bill is the fact that it has been the prac- tice throughout many years for these people to take advantage of their sensi- tive position and to use it for privileged treatment which is not justified. , _ , . I am in sympathy with the people who risk their lives and do things like thee:7 ; I am not asking you what the salary' ok those people is. but. I have reason to be- lieve that it is a pretty good salary which,: takes care of some of the hazards and . the 'risks that are involved.' I think thosee._ things have to be considered herd, ? I think your committee should have and should be be able tcetell me to what heights or depths we are going to go to deter- mine who is included, because unless I am badly mistaken and unless I am badle: mistaken in my estimate of the operae,. than of this department in the past, they - are going to start reaching down, down. ' and down to get people up. I have had the experience of observing people 'quit, other departments of the Government to join the Central Intelligence Agency. They have told me. "I can go there ant Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 1963? Approved For akstatiggaQ3/20 ? CIA-RDP78-03741AGO*305001172 KMAL -1tEcoRrt-Hovsv-, , -tateet3if?, aie, 'same -work that v baVe regulations are Paid on exactly the. as Bey. -in the Depart- ment of ;Agriculture "s.nd?I will get ? much higher. eatery, because I get ceiterage tinder the MA." Yet that Per sett stays In this same community an does the same work with no greater sponsibility, and he gets higher pay. do not think that type of employee is e ? titled to any special consideration because be Is associated with an metier et has a percentage of its peo- le ivho are -put in these PesitiOne Of high sensitivity and who are subjected to area rusk and, in mealy instances, have giv their Wee. / do not think you ha given Us enough information shout these people at the lower levels, who consti tote a great majority. I would wan some assurance that those people not going to get further preferred trea ment Under this bill. I would like to ha the gentleman allement on that. . Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Th gentleman has made a pretty good speech. I do not know where to star to answer his question. I allowed him talk for 5 minutes. What question does he want me to answer? Mr. JONES of Missouri. I asked th gentleman first if he knew of the Mt ferential in salary between the peep' employed doing clerical, filing, and tYP- ing work, who were getting paid morthan e comaerm.IJON gentleman should know it. I think his hose not know that. Mr. RivER8ttee 8hpeooulES opofdlfemst; uwththurieict..adre:oprmtaniainkel,n think thttshd a fOrlitiAlg the same duties.. We. are net , ThtT?Ptitielit stene.vity: the talking, About those employees tn - bill. This bill carers only the empl 4Arrq d who are engaged in liPeotall7Pal of woelte.: re- With lelineet- to other bands of Jettle.: bitiinan'" I ployees?the average ldrid?let me set'ugeti ` for his n- to Mae gentleman that a few years 440 atr; JONES wet edeployed as a staff member of my Men,,Wilithe gentle-Mint subconunittee, an attorney who was theti4?.: -Of on the legal staff of CIA. paid lthifliP,'Yfiddgto the ,gentletibui, little bit snore money than he was Salt% .0Z:er,*Efit,, of t t jog down there. I am sure that he ;;;It Akan Aki - en been getting at CIA exactly the semi' *one question for met' vu Pay he would have received for &railer the gentleman thinkee that thL work in any other Federal aeencY, instilled as a maister_oftiZererie ag - hope that will help the gentleman on number of employees am.. t the point that he was making, in this CIA building here in are Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. May ton? _ t- gay this to the gentleman: The people Mr. =mow or south CarOls ye who do similar work are covered 1:iy the 'think so. _ 4 -12 regulations of the civil service. . Mr. JONES of Missouri. The getttlee,'-' o Mr. JONES of Missouri. Mr. Chair- Mari thinks that should be aeorett man, I do not agree with that for this Mc. RIVERS of South Carblini. C'T reason, because I have had gpecific in- think so. T? te stances and have known people who Ur. ASH:BROOK. Mr. Chalemart;... have tit& jobs in one department in or- make the point of order that a etteenin:, der to go to work for the CIA. They is not present. ?. e have told me that they were doing exact- The CHAIRMAN. The Chair *Dr' 13, the same type of work and getting count. One hundred and nine Membervi' Paid at a higher grade than they were are preaent, a quortua. ? , in the department that they quit. ?Mr. BATES. Mr. Chairmeli, I yield Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I ani myself such time OA I LOAF OdhartMe, o surprised to hear that. Mr. Chairman, H.R. 8427 iv a bill Mr. MacGREGOR. Mr. Chairman, unanimously reported by the 'Armed will the gentleman yield? Services Committee. Its purpose IS to e Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I am establish an improved retirement ilyatten pleased to yield to the gentleman. ? for those employees of the Central Intel- e Mr. MacOREGOR. Mr. Chairman, I ligence Agency who are concerned with was particularly pleased by the cone- the conduct and support of intelligence. merits of the gentleman from South activities abroad. ? ? ' Carolina with respect to the nature of hie The Congress has long countenanced r committee's knowledge of the work of the.. the policy or provictiniready.rothyseientt- Central Intelligence Agency. This IS for certain lasses or Government ma, Particularly so because from time to tinie ? Mmes. This pot* is not one of fa= over the past 3 years we have heard corn- voritism, but one of realism. It takes' plaints In this body and in the other body account of the fact that some jobs Are about the need for the establishment of a.- more hazardous and more trying, than. watchdog committee which, in ray oPhi- others. An appreciation of the risks assumed by specie/ agents of the 711I and other Govertunent employees gaged in in the apprehension and deterrtf40 of criminals, led to the Congress Prge- viding early retirement for them. - The arduous conditions?climatic and other6! wise?under which Foreign Service nal- cers labor, dictated the .ertactment similar early retirement provissions.' In " the case of those CIA officers and em- ployees engaged in the conduct and sup- port of intelligence activities abreact both criteria?zhazardous and onertitis working conditlons?obtain: - This is-oh- viously a young mates' bualniels and'fer the sake of consistency and Justiee, vision must be made to accord to this limited number of CIA employees the realistic treatment which presently gove ems the early retirement of FB/ agents and Foreign Service officers. :The mime tary retirement features of the bill meet.' this objective by providing that an em- ployee who is at least; 50 years of lege and has rendered 20 years of service may, with the consent of the Agency, be re- tired on an immediate annuitY. Since the Civil Service Retirement Act continues to be appropriate for the great Majority of CIA employees, this House is entitled to that information. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. The bill clearly points out who would be covered. Mr. JONES of Missouri. I respect- fully point out that it does not. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I must be stupid. because I have tried to explain that to the gentleman. Mr. JONES of Missouri. I do not think the gentleman is stupid. I think sometimes the committee is overawed by the great secrecy under which this agency operates and some of the people have taken advantage of their position to keep secret some things that the Con- gress and the gentleman's committee particularly are entitled to know. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I will tell the committee What I will do. The gentleman may go back and ask the counsel of our committee to answer any of those questions: and he can an- swer them a thousand times better than I can. Mr. JONES of Missouri. Does the gentleman mean that these things are ;so secret that we cannot put them on :record? Mr. HARDY. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I yield to the gentleman from Virginia Mr. HARDY. Mr. Chairman, as a member of the subcora.mittee I may be able to shed a little bit of light on the point that the gentleman from Missouri has raised. As far as I can recall from the testimony the employees who are covered wider the normal civil service on, is not indicated from ray knowledge of the existing committees of the Con- gress. I should like to call the gentle- man's attention to a response given by President Kennedy to a Question at a press conference earlier this month when. he said the following: There is a congreesknial committee in the House and one in the Senate composed of members of the AppropriaUons Committee and the Armed Services Ccenmittee, and they meet frequently with Mr. McOone, and he also testifies before the Foreign Relations Comraittres of House and eenate and the general Armed Services Committees. And r think that Congress through that organist- ton has the means of keeping a Ration with him. I should like to ask the gentleman from South Carolina [Mr. Rams] whether he agrees that the committee on which the gentleman serves and other committees mentioned by the President do maintain effective liaison over the work of the Central Intelligence Agency? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. We o it all the time. The gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Vresorr] is chairman of that subcorrunittee and its members meet all the tune We et all the information Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 only to those actively on- Once work overseas. For ,..t.he various position tie , mitered have not been bill itself. but the re- been made explicit the bill and in its ? , efiSpecialitlea needed by the Iligence Agency vary. not "anphisticatien of intern- ri techniques. but, with id conditions generally. the "-U-.1 and the Mtn- "for highly trained photo- inter ? ti a clear example. But with the progress of science and the Imaginative. technological advances in this area some specialized skills used by CIA Officers in the field may become ob- solete. Such men often find themselves involved In thefl Agency's necessary pro- grams of managed attrition. Authority was therefore granted to provide such Individuals who are involuntarily retired either separation pay or immediate an- nuities. Immediate annuities are avail- able only to 08-14's and above who have at least 10 years' service with the Agen- cy, 5 of those years in a career primar- ily oriented toward the conduct and sup- port of intelligence activities abroad. Those involuntarily retired who are not eligible for immediate annuities will be Provided with separation pay which, like the annuity, is proportioned to length of service rendered. Though the retirement provisions of this bill represent new coverage for some CIA employees, they are not novel to the Congress. Identical provisions obtain for Foreign Service officers. Neverthe- less, each section of this bill Was care- fully analyzed to confirm that it was ap- propriate and necessary. In the course of 4 days intensive hearings the com- mittee found that a number of changes were warranted. These changes have been made, and as a result we have be- fore us now an excellent bill which I am proud to-support--a bill which deserves your consideration_ One change in par- ticular was occasioned by security con- siderations. Because of the sensitivity of Information pertaining to the mission of the CIA abroad, a section was added to give finality to determinations made by the DireCtor under this act. Similar pro- vision exista in the Atomic Energy .Act and is designed to protect highly classi- fied information from disclosure in the course of an open trial or hearing. Other changes were made which tightened the bill and which reflected the years of experience which the For- eign Service ha., had in administering an Identical system. I believe that H.R. 8427 is in line with consistent congressional policy and that It represents an equitable retirement sys- tem for those involved in this arduous work. In addition, It provides to the Central Intelligence Agency a method for keeping its service young and up to date; and the enactment of this bill will demonstrate to those whose thankless task it is to be in the front lines of our? inteligence-collection service that their work and their welfare are not unheeded by the Congress of the United States. 605001 gen r';W:7?tkinto' yield 'th)Vrge'it:11:enies4"741d:i;bkontiased lL . mr?.HAWY.- In cobnectglIith,,t4eZ, man, as a trile800_-_.4;11410,117 AO; Misso ? the extent to which the Jucommi$,tee 8427. went- Into 'This bill fqg tieman: 'agree that th.hierings*itio the due. "_ ? CIA the subcommittee went very deeply inent fo:r Into this itinttei :or the lirettelt .fitteltb*,,-!4grAcY who of ernpfoYe* a0Vered. t-neder,tbig conduct and su bill?, ?q?-?? BATES. OR* 80 percent of Mr. HARDY. And I think the poilit will be brought in urAcsr that the gentleman from Missouri raised Today, all.em140teem Is a very important POint. :But I think:, under the notarial civil sera* It is also important that, the Members of plan and the majority of the Congress 'know that the inbcorne will renaain under that .SYS mittee did receive assurances to the .ef- lee which is enntlbuettely:, feet that only Persons In Very' special Monte Abroad iecittlires tun kinds or assignments wenitsth wed?uelileenbeeemteverueecie many erfougrnir In a?W1 Ia)setIngli thi ton- particular bill. Mr. HARDY. That is correct. I thank the gentleman. Mr. JONAS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BATES. I yield to the gentle- man from North Carolina. Mr. JONAS. I wish the gentleman would tell me where I can find that in the bill. Mr. BATES. What is that? Mr. JONAS. The limitation of cover- age to hazardous foreign service. It may be in the bill, but I cannot find it. Mr. BATES. I may say that an amendment will be offered on this point. The members of the subcommittee after we considered this particular aspect at considerable length in the committee were satisfied in our minds as to what the CIA intended. When we went be- fore the Rules Committee they raised the same question that the gentleman from North Carolina now poses. We wrote an amendment which we offered to the sub- committee, and we also cleared it with the Rules Committee. With the excep- tion of the gentleman from California [Mr. Sierra I they are presently in ac- cord with what I have previously stated. This will be discussed when we get un- der the 5-minute rule. Mr. JONAS. Can the gentleman tell me where I might find a copy of the amendment? Mr. BATES. I will lend the gentle- man my copy of the amendment. Mr. LINDSAY. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BATES. I yield to the gentleman from New York. and the entire intelligence_ ynity47:..,, Mr. LINDSAY. For how long do they I have haterwd with great in - have to serve overseas? Mr. BATES. In order to -obtain this annuity an individual must have 5 years in this particular group. If he has I() years' total he could retire on the basis of 2 percent per year. Mr. LINDSAY. Five years of oversee assignment? Mr. BATES. He must be in that work for at least 5 years. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of the time remaining to the gentleman from Florida Mr. BENNETT I, f4,4i;a4-,ox "r7V`4,,7.1:, qUtialgo0 'JR N ters. Foreign Service early recognized, need for a retirement system to meet the needs of an oversee eeryi and beginning in 1924 the Comas* ognir.ed the validity of theselAipettiel needs. CIA is not asking for something ape- dal or unique in this bill. The ity of improving the retirement was studied intensively and It_ termined that the system develoPecl-b4 the Congress for the Foreign Service over the last 30 years would meet Agency objectives. Consequently, this hill gives?, to a fraction of the total Agency person- nel a retirement system substantivelf identical to the Foreign Service:1, ? During 4 days of hearings an 'Weds .of this bill were examined intensively' the committee. A review of these hat ings and the report indicates deli*, most careful thought Was given t9..."..c11., aimect of the bill. A number of smend-7, menta were made which strengthen ind tighten the bill. The bill was amant='! mously reported and it is to the merits'', of this bill which the Members should address themselves. - My membership on the CIA Subcome: mittee has given me considerable lnsIght into the personnel problems and the management aspects of the InteltIgene,e. _ business. It may well be that the Agency has made some mistake*: buViitil,?, all make mistakes. On the othe4lignk,_ the Agency has been tremendottety,suez7__ cessful in providing advance Infortna-t- tion on many aspects of world ...yenta, I am convinced that our polio:Makers' are getting good intelligence from.,04...?? the Problems of CIA ooerstere intelligence in the field. These mere women I have found to be trulYttedic?te4L, to their tasks. and the Nation'sherild be grateful for their efforts. Tliis essential to maintain the high the service of which these PeOPF.:4 part. We must give the Agency the it needs to accomplish the extremeliedif-- ficult mission which it is assigned. I call upon you to vote for this bill which is recommended to you by all members of the Armed Services Com- mittee and not to vote for irresponsible Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 .. d For Release 2002/03/20 .:..pi?,,Rbp7 NGREssioN4 ' 'f..-: of our, " ?-'1"his .1a: no MY:that': ., , 7;... has, been without IOW 119Nr*O0PaS.:- my re- , '''PerrisiOrt::".., Aio,t:s .../Ials's,nitt..A1/05P t?Is te**e,;,,Mitlli-,noi,31:: . ,. -.-14 9Pe.r,u... 'em' and it it' Wei likewise _. Set31 . , sIty'' lousee.1'''. APProPriations7Stilsonlinitittee; . us *kb'regud to the as the initie0M0340.aasOfsql,:P0114eis'iS .ii,- iiticutiiii. on- 't-'0*ikoiindeloil*cfty-op,.ioital , ? -t 4ug- this 'is the igiboonuni-Oem` titea; has- dealt :WI Of the ? VtteXn..tvill agree A4att:Dir.n.e. biro' or, mec6ne and his deputies have generally d0 not , times been respOriireS le :iliessq tees*' tnieltje, we haie, rsisect-..,.-Vileilliiiq In the- WWI , ? 1963 hese pr Mr. , m013' been &MO and ? nevi* other ? print ?te atithe present ?sated?to give tia 'detail* and time. So X'whidd think, if questions are in the Minds ot Members of Congress, it might be 'an aPPrePriate thing for these Member* of the COngress to treat the Committee on Armed Services and its CIA /subcommittee just 48 they treat every other committee of the Congress and address to them the questions they have with regard to employment policies or with regard to any other Policies the:, may .have, and in this way perhaps some of this unnecessary secrecy can be re- moved.. There * a degree of secrecy nec- essary irt the CIA. but there is also a large area where there is no real necessity for secrecy. I think Members of Congress are mostly interested in seeing to it that the books are properly, handled and things of this type. Things of this type can be brought to the Central Intelligedce Agency subcommitee and can be Prop- erly handled. I hope in the future Mem- bers of Congress when they hear about a subject dealing with the Central Intel- ligence Agency and have a question about it will suldrees their question to the staff of the committee or to the committee as a whole and /to the gentleman from Georgia, Chairman Vntson, chairman of the subcommittee and of the whole Com- mittee on Armed Services. I think you will get intelligent answers then to the questions you ask. Perhaps by eliminat- ing this frustration we may not only serve the CIA but, more importantly, may serve to strengthen our own coun- try. Mr. ARENDS. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may desire. Mr. Chairman, our Committee on Armed Services has had a subcommittee on the Central Intelligence Agency for many years. M a member of that sub- committee since its inception I have be- come somewhat familiar with the na- ture of the Agency's organization and its manifold activities. Our subcom- mittee has regularly inquired into the CIA's operations and from time to time have made specific inquiry into some specific aspect of its activities. When- ever a question would arise as to what Che CIA had been doing in some parties o'er area, our subcommittee would quietly but thoroughly look into it. Naturally, all our subcommittee In investigations, and briefings were in executive session. Naturally, no re- ports have been issued as to our findings and recommendations. To do so would destroy the effectiveness of the Agency. and the importance of this Agency's work to our country's security cannot be too strongly emplia?Azed. are no 1332,re re Arent * comecti ? rittion*., - great ;t,o flea.7eirtain type ? iertake -Plligemea tes ' some - theRI! Lbe fiffia.:46its -i**1)-n e U-s:voluntary r- e er C'emPloYees at the *n50 to into complete confidences, Nor bare they oIA net 1041147? rvice hesitated to admit. to isdattible.errieriheir and -YatreataY tne se' .T#Ct their eagerness to' improve tipon Others to dedicate themserees.S. Meths's& of obtaining' inforniation arier..AYPe Of works BY. this. .14ellislatian,? evaluating it. Anyone familiar tc a the simplest type .cit detective one of the most important sten readily recognizes how readily errors ocs'Cicvernmen _ ? 1::;,'" cur in ferreting out the fact S2s. The gath- .4 urge we enactment of this ?? s ening of factual information on a worlds' Mr. IdecOREGOR. Mr. Chairma wide scale, and being certain that the will the gentleman yield? Mr. AMENDS. I am pleased to yield"! information is factual and not just con to presents problems beyond de- to the gentleman. . Mr. MAcCIREGOR. Mr. Chairman, scription. it is frequently said that there need* to. For my part. I believe that in the CIA be a watchdog committee established* we have one of the finest intelligence the Congress to oversee the activities* of.. agencies in the world. I should also like the Central Intelligence Agency. It Is to say that I do not believe anywhere said, for example, that such a group is will be found people more dedicated to needed, consisting of House and senate the service of our country than Director Members of long seniority and demon-. McCone and the people who serve under ?strated responsibility. I ,should like to him. ?ask the distinguished gentleman from There is one thing more I should like?? Illinois whether or not there is not al- to emphasize with respect to the CIA. ready in existence in the Congress a cora- Contrary to what we read and hear from mittee, or committees, consisting 01 time to time, the CIA does not pursue an Members of long seniority and demon- independent foreign policy. The agency strat.ed responsibility to oversee the, so-, does not make policy. It simply gathers tivities of the Central Intellignce the facts upon which policy may be. Agency, ?'? based. It simply eat-ries out orders dies- lir, Aftsims., The answer to,that - tated by those who make policy.If "Yes." As I said in my talk a moment there is an inconsistency, or a seeming ago. a ahioommitto of the Armed sem- inconsistency, between policy and what ices Committees of the House and Senate Ni 174 ---14 the CIA may be doing, it arises not be- and the subcommittee of aPProPriatiOns. cause of the CIA acting independently. go into ail matters concerning the cm, Our subcommittee has not only re- and it is my opinion that thesis, commit- viewed the operations of the CIA, but 'we tees do as good a job as we possibly can. have also looked carefully into the ma- If our present committees were to be en- chinery by which the CIA activities are coordinated within and between other departments of Government. While all this is not directly related to the bill before us, I felt at least some- information of the most secret natUre thing should be said concerning the might soon become public information operations of the CIA generally by those and no longer be a secret matter. Isionlik of us who have had opportunity to regu- prefer our present practice. I thistle We. larly study its activities, do a thorough job. I must say, in corn- As has been pointed out, the bill be- mendation of the CIA that when ,they foreus was reported unanimously by our appear before us. they are very.' frank, committee, What we are proposing honest, and sincere and at all times ready here is not new. We are In effect aim- to repry in detail to any inquiry of any ply extending to some of the emplofees kind whenever we request it. of the CIA the same type of retirement Mr. MACGREGOR. i3econdly, it1i system system as we have had for the Foreign said by some of little knowledge of the Service, existence of the Armed Services Corn- We established a special retirement mittee and the Appropriations Subcom- system for the FBI and for the Foreign raittee, that a watchdog committee is Service in recognition of the extraordi- needed so that Members of Conaress nary hazardotis nature of the work and would be kept informed of the general the uniqueness of the service itself, activities of the CIA. You are informed Assignments overseas are not at best at the present time, you mat the most desirable, particularly for any Mr. Artmirrs. We certainly are in- extended period of time. And many of formed. Our chairman, the gentlemen these assignments are necessarily in un- from Georgia (Mr. vrestosl, whenever healthy climates and in places where something comes up, frequently requests *reed into a so-called watchdog commit- tee composed of Members of the Rouse and Senate, I think it would soon get out of hand with the real possibility that Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 IRetea ..e .Z002101/..20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A009100050011-2 AL RECORD ROI/ " October 80 - , Chai Man. we itriimirnecio ,ci , , er sorrttute to the :because we could not even andentvote a the ow many supergrades they had. the,sObstitute fails. " two?I think it was th 4 j34TEIL were advised that ther would time, es Ile may :c Mai of secrecy7. to u?nnnJ it.thi'CTA ho ? persons they had In those,REra of t, is It? gradis.8o on Is bt't we it';tigathrveZttetitenorPittraleettelint:liatliesii-eliiisecontraiill 4141"ItTntellliegtH- Agenq fed that just inok'der:to'get just the number of tool:tient and -,4is not a policy- In those ,thr , three categories.. grades -4;;417re.,,,ttocovioes, '2P-.0I1CY Is Mr, RIVERS of South CarOlituoit*O. oageojoy taioido olOia ? ? ? o?ooio authority Uhairnien, will the gentleman yield 4?---.4....oloirtem, sinillar to -tba?. o,00- ? o36 sq. ? ' ? GROSe I yield to the gelaebbillo .0.18n aeriice PrimenPir-e ' 000 atacq1111. ?611.? idr? Chairman. I from South Carolina There is a clear need to estahlish-tind eia& the 'gentleman from Illinois for Mr. RIVERS of Sou. th Carolina. Xitt maintain a young ca .rw., ;intelligence - 2* his -elucidation, the first instance, when you asked them service. This bill Will Mr; nntERs of south Carolina. Mr. how many they had on the payroll, they purpose, , o? 'Chaifor,..rM,ert, to have no further requests should have told you. I think it was Equality, Mr. Chairman, would like to Ume? - ridiculous not. to have told you. - pay tribute to the men and wcenen of the Central Intelligence Agency who free quently serve at the risk of life and limb In difficult parts of the world. Their service, which goes unpublicised /or the most part., should be recognised by the Congress of the United States and their loyalty, their dedication, and tiseiropro- fessional character should be backed ny by a meaningful career service and re- tirement system. Occasionally Mr. Chairman, points are raised that the CIA operates inde- pendently of the chief of missions. Just by way of clarification I would like to read from one of the Executive orders bearing on this so that there can be no lack of clarity on the fact that CIA in any embassy is subject to the Ambassa- dor. Former President Eisenhower on November 8, 1260, issued a memoran- In the last fiscal year retirement fund d. um which I will excerpt from Stated: went $4 billion in the red. You had,toet-, It La my desire that. ell sPProSkrieSs!stePti ter begin to be concerned about hoW you be taken to assure that the ebhif of handle retirement from here on out., be- cause somebody, and soon, is going to have to put money into the fund in order to pay out any retirement. Mr. Chairman. I could hardly believe it when I picked up this bill over the last weekend and read this one sen- tence: The Director may designate from time to time such Agency officers and employees. hereafter referred to as participants, who shall be entitled to the benefits of the system. Mr. HATES. Mr. Chairman. I yield , such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. GROSS'. (Mr. GROSS asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. GROSS, Mr, Chairman. if I may have the attention of the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. ARILIVDS1, would like to compliment thefl House Armed Services Committee on being able to get any and every type of information which they wanted from the Central Intelligence Agency. That has not been the.experi- ence of some other committees of Congress. Mr. Chairman, I would have appreci- ated it had the gentleman went on today and told us who in the Cuban Bay of Pigs flase,o fell fiat on their collective or Individual faces. I would have appreci- ated ,nearing, an account of why the 'CIA's Merl; Richardson, was removed from Vietnam if the CIA is not dealing in Policy in that COtirltrY. Mr. Chairman, it was my understand- ing that Mr. Richardson was brought back from Vietnam because he was try- ing to establish some kind of a policy. I hope that some day, when we do not have anything else to do in the House, that members of the Armed Services Committee will tell us of some of the things that we common garden variety Mernbent of Congress have been totally unable to-learn about the operations of this-AffencY.of Government., .Mr..--telutirmin, let me say that the CIA at one time came before a committee of which I am a member, the Committee on Post Mice and Civil Service, asking for additional sopergrades. We asked the representatives a the CIA how Many supergrades they had at that time. The answer.was. "We cannot tell you." al- thoughthis was an executive session. , I said, "Do you mean"to tell the commit- tee you cannot divulge how many em- ployees you have in categories 16. 17, and 18?" They said, "No, we cannot tell you." I said, "We are not asking for job descriptions, we do not ask you for names, we simply ask you for the num- bers of employees in the three cate- gories." My friend, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. JOHANSEN! Is present on the floor of the House and I am sure the gentleman will corroborate what I say if there is any doubt. Mr.? GROSS. We are dealing in Part with the same sort of thing in this bill. I will tell you why. In the report ac- companying the bill you do not have a single letter, or the usual letters from a department or agency of Government in support of or in opposition to this legislation. You have nothing whatever from the Chairman of the Civil Service Commission who administers the Gov- ernment retirement fund. And, let me tell Members of the House that you had better begin to be concerned about the retirement fund. Mr. Chairman. I favor certain pro- visions of this bill, but I warn you that the Government retirement fund is to- day more than $38 billion in the red. I did not say "millions." I said billions: $38 billion in the red. I could not believe that a retirement bill could come out of a committee as Unlimited as that. Sure, you are going to offer an amend- ment now to partially close the door. Apt with one hand you are going to close the door and with the other you are go- log to open it again with the amendment which you propose to offer. I am going to offer a substitute to your amendment to keep that door closed. I support the proposal to give proper consideration to those engaged in work hazardous to life and health, but there I want to end.' I am not going to give the Director of the C/A the authority to interpret what is normal employment, to open the door again, and perhaps give an unjustified number of people on fast retirement who May be completely un- deserving. LTA. diplomatic mission Is effective in dia4 charging his role as the representative-of the President. The chief of the mission shall have and exercise affirrnative responsibility for the coordination and supervision of all. U.S. activities in the country to which be is accredited. Further, former President Eisenhower In this memorandum said: It is my desire that the Chief of Mission be made fully aware of his responsibilities and . authority In respect to U.S. activitielL The Anal point in this Executive order. that has been continued. I believe. by President KennedY, states explicitly that the Ambassador: - Will report promptly to the President as to any matter which he consider* to need :our- rection and with respect to which he is sot empowered to effect correction. ? It is / believe plain that under the TO= ecutive orders of the pest administration and the present administration.' the Cen-1* tral Intelligence Agency and its rePree- entatives are responsive to the President and to his personal representative. the Ambassador. - In a word, Mr. Chairman, there is a, definite need for this legislation today. It will mean a great deal to the spirit of the Central Intelligence Agency. These men and women deserve well of the Unit- ed States. It is my hope that the Con? grras will enact this Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 proved For itorrevue ute fur; e.' the' Clerk Raftimaige itvediaatikawo 0 91 00050011-2 _ ?mos horioisway. pis:ea* ber death OtHil tef et 'ttda SWUM!, Ve,tted tsr. the stew or gene he' maratelle to lite Par;* elebdrein til) 0125; MICA, ad and who* incapable of pelf -support by the number ot , wi:by raison oe mental or, pia:Word disabilitr. Ca) a suretirint wife or flualuinat and, who received more than one-beit of Me the =nifty cd child * termini /Mete Iron Hanle support from. such partioipant. antrittim ref any retn dren oy the Vaned Mater of (3) "(WIC raw* ea unmarried- recOmputed and peat as' diftlyfirikasternbled,_ under the age ot eighteen pima. Or AP* htliband, or child Wei, -00, &VD Deiencolosts enraarried child regardiass ne. PeritniPant. cause Of physical or Mental diethility in- terThirrannuitir Farb* e< ely na Act Apulornerbeif a atm:4 (elerlfthIpport. Int irtaltitittortgbacabe egaPaingtna ,t4r orA? this Act. tha rot:drat more than oneelealt at his support, dighteen4 justemai excep,tripiet... =sum theL Central' Weill- from the participant. or physical d ty, the lain 7; and rase a?onacrumoar 003musdrioriti terminable may when "tot Pant. thoh cuffed peace ale inebtasn, incapable of PWEleilklihtblaLectrdr ugh rill 0WitiOnigrn01?,101", term inchides "(1) An told and (il) , fish. thereto slab be IS".!-frifIX! 0914 , * stepchild or natiral rigid 11130 death,? marrhqpr, or tor" means the Dire:ant of Con- sea 3111. (a) Efts and one-half per cantinamarries. or roomer, ftwor ,anch of the b sary veceived by each partlei.i (to) Any immansed partietpont int eideal ? *mover pant shall be eoatributed te the futut for t he under the prorfokor, of th r is 4to sod r o Terse u-..,?Tent INTIssismtter s annulties, cash benents. refund. the inteebee 10 be roe ill01 Orelenaneer Joni DelaMerrr RIOT= paymen =,liairre-adereetrailimearr eversat contributed front the respective appropriation unity. in neu 01 the annuiti 01 and agoiranese. An equal awn +Than sup ber :the. tune of retiremsbt elect sired :Mae* and ntrastlowe Vie Dina= maY Prescribe salary The amounts deducted arid withheld rules end regulations tor the establishment from imago salary together. with the amount," having an, trerantble letterset (as , ' ' ? or tund which is used for payment of bis provided, said designate bi writing a and mainterutruse of a Central Intelligenott so contributed from the appropriation or is need in rfitc. nava)) in thersef. Agencylietinsinent and Disability System. for fund sham deposited by the Arm, a, the partt to receive an &amenity after par- a limited number of employees, referred to credit of the fund. ticdpozt's death. Tree anettity payable as the hereafter as tiae system. (b) Zech participant shall be deemed, to participant making such election shall be reduced by 10 per avenue, of an arintlity (b),, The Vdrecter *bail administer the sYs- consent find agree to such deductions froin comp d as provided in paragraph (I) et ton tra s000rdance with such rules and regu- beam seamy, and payment tem such deduc. ute . tattoos and with the principles established dons emu be a fun and complete discharge this section, and by 5 per centum otaniati-, . by this hot. - and acquittance of an claims and demands trill e? computed fcr each full ave fulmrthe (o) In the interests of the security of the whatsoever for an regular services during the person designated is younger than the per-- foreign intelligence activities of the tinned period covered by such payment, except the tielpant, but such total reduction shell not States and in order further to implement right to the benefits to which be then be exceed 40 per centurn. The annuity of a' the -proviso of *section 102(d) (3) of the Na- entitled nnel rthis Act, notwithstanding any survivor designated under this paragraph Waal Beeitriti het of 1047. as amended 160 law, rule, or regulation affecting the i nutty computed se prescribed above. The ndi- alien be " Per centum ?f the reduced an- 17.6.0. 40e(d)(3)). that the Director ie Oen- vidualat salary. tral Intelligence shall be responsible for pro- TAIT C?COStrITIATIOX or arretWrintS annuity payable to a beneficiary under the provisions of this paragraph shall begin on Sac Pd i. (a) The annuity Of a PerticiPant the first day of the next month after the- shall be equal to 2 per avatum of his average participant dies. Upon the death of the SAW- basic salary for the highest live consecutive. viving beneectery all payments shall oases years of service, for which full contributions and no further annuity payments satthortsed have been made to the fund. multiplied by tauter this at paragraph shshall1os due or payable.. tecting tntelligence sources and me from unauthorised disclosure, and notwith- standing, the provisions of the Adatinistra- Uve Procedure Act (5 17.13.0. 1001 et seq.) or any other provisions of law, any determina- tions by the Director authorised by the pro- visianisof this Act shall be deemed to be Anal and ormeinaive and net subject to review by any court. - UstablhOsivisnit and eseinressence of hied - Sec. 2102. There Is hereby created a rand to be known as the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Disability Fund which shall be maintained by the Director. The Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Disabil- ity Fund is referred to hereafter as the fund. Participants Sao. 203, The Director may designate from time to time such Agency officers and em- ployees, hereafter referred to as participants". who shall be entitled to the benefits of the system., Any participant who has completed Whose . career at that time Is adjudged by ParaffraPli (a) at Ws section, UP tO the WI *tad participant has less than twenty years fifteen- years of **vice with the Agency the Director to be qualifying for the system amount of such annuity sPecified by Win as or servios credit toward his retirement under may elect to remain a participant of such the tee* for the survivor benefits. -The ane the system at the time he is retired, his an- system fur, the duration of his employment nutty of the participant making such election nutty shall be computed on the amumption by the Agency end such election shalt not be shall be reduced by 254 per centum of any that he has bad twenty years of service, but subject to review or approval by the Director. amount UP to 113.600 be specified as the bassi the additional service credit that may aocrue for "the survivor benefit plus 10 per centum to e participant under this provision shall Annuitants of any amount over *2,400 so specified.. in no case exceed the difference between his Sac. 904. (a) Annuitants dual be Perttel" (a) (1) If an annuitant dies and is sur- age at the time di retirement and the. man- Pante who are receiving annuities freer' the Axed by a wile or husband and by a child datory retirement age applicable to his grade fund and all persons, including surviving or children, in addition to the annuity pay- in the Agency. . - wives and husbands, widows, dependent anis to the surviving wife or husband. there . (b) In each moo, the participant shall be widowers, children, and benenciaries of par- shall be paid to or on behalf of each child an given a medical examination by one or more UriPants or annuitants -who obeli become annuity equal to the satallest of : 0) 40 per duly qualified physicians or sumo= des- entitled to receive annuities in ac'xirtianee centrun of the annuitant's average baste ignated by the Director to conduct exami- with the provisions of this Aet, salary, as determined under paragraph (a) nations, and dkasbUlty shall be determined (b) When used in this Act the term? of this section, divided by the number of by the Director on the basis of the advice (i) ',Mow" means the surviving wife of children; (it) 000; or (111) $1,800 divided of such physicians or surgeons. Unless the a participant who was married to such per- by the number of children, disability is permanent. like examinationsexaminationsticlpint for at least two years immedietelf (2) If an anneetant dies and is not star- shall be made annually until the annuitant preceding his death or is the 'mother of Intl* Tilted by a wife or husband but by a child has reached the statutory mandatory retire- by marriage to the participant. or children, *oh surviving child shall be merit age for hie grade in the Agency. If (2) "Dependent widower" means the sur- paid an annuity equal to the isnidiest of: the Director determines on the beefs of the viving husband of a participant who was (1) 50 per centurn of the annuttent's average advice one or more duly qualified physi- married to such participant for at least two basic salary, as determined under paragraph clans or surgeons conducting such examine- the number of years, not exceeding thirty" rawr e-axinerns eccenneo ro =Mir " Bye, of service credit obtained in aceordeates ? PaWriCtraIrra - with the provisions of sections 261 and 262. -aee In determining the &ingress* period of serf- Aettresseat for dieshaitY or raceliticisle--- ice upon which the annuity is to be base& readied/ cad mina tiort--reeneery the fractional part, of a month. if any. +hen . sec. 941. (a) Any participant who has five not be counted. yenta of service credit toward retirement une (h) At the time of retirement, any married der the system. excluding military eirletfal participant may elect to receive a reduced service that is credited in accordance With: annuity and to provide for an annuity pay- provisions of section 251 or 262(a) (2), and side to his wife or her husband, commencing who becomes tote.ny disabled or Incapact*f. on the date following such participant's ts.ted for useful and efficient service by res. death and terminating upon the death of son of disease, illness, or injury not due to such surviving wife or husband. The an- vicious habits, intemperance, or willful nutty payable to the surviving wife or conduct on his part, shell, upon his own ala- husband after such participant's death shall plication or upon order of the Director, be be 50 Per oentuni of the amount of the Per- retired on an annuity computed as prescribed Uri ra annuity computed as prescribed in la faction 321. If the disabled or incepaci- Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 :1959? 9114 ?Approved F erkftflarattlINtiti 914 argumatiknoOSICAteNPOSAtriatio 55 to ?Iir rant .? itymia jtoottItt tlikt,d4ut. . Deaf* fa. servIce ? sem 232. (a) In olio it" partici t diaa and no eisinsi for anneity is pa7sbIs the provisions of thla' Act, his to the fund, with 'interest at the Intik prescribed in seeding 1141(a) ind 2el(i4?, shall be paid in the order of precedence shown in section 241(b). (b) U a participant, who has at lend SYS years of service credit toward retirement under the *Plena, excluding military or, naval service that le credited In aeleserdaneet with the provisions ot section 251 'oe. 23240(2). dies before separation Or retiree meat from the Agency and is survived bY widow or a dependent widower, as donned in section 204. such widow or dependent widower shall be entitled teen annuity equal. to 50 per centum of she annuity computed, In accordance with the provision* of pars- Eleselh (e) or thin seetion and of section: 221(a). Tb. annuity of. such widow or deei pendent widower shall commence on the date following death of the parteepant and shall terminate upon death of the widow or. dependent widower, or upon the dependent Widowers becoming, capable of self-support. (c) If a participant who has at least five years of service credit toward retirement under the system, excluding military or naval service that la credited in accords:sot with the provisions of section 251 or 252(a) (2). dies before separation or retira- nient from the Agency and is survived by a wife or a husband and a child or children, each surviving child shall be entitled to an annuity computed in accordance with the provisions of section 221(c) (1). The child's annuity shall begin and be terminated in accordance with the provisions of. section 221(e). Upon the death of the surviving wife or husband or termination of the an- nuity of a child, the annuities of any re- maining children shall be recomputed and paid as though such wife or husband or child had not survived the participant. (d) If a participant who has at least Ave years of service credit toward retirement un- der the System, excluding military or navat service that is credited in accordance with the provisions of section 251 or 252(a) (2), dies before separation or retirement from the Agency and is not survived by a wife or husband, but by a child or children. each surviving child shall he entitled to an in- nWty computed in accordance with the pro- visions of section 221(c) (2). The child's annuity shall begin and terminate in accord- ance with the provisions of section 221(e), Upon termination of the annuity of a child, the annuities of any remaining children shall be recomputed and paid as though that child had never been entitled to the benefit. (e) it, at the time of his or her death, the participant had less than twenty years Of service credit toward retirement under the system, the annuities payable in accord- ance with paragraph (b) of this section shall be computed in accordance with the, provisions of section 221 on the assumption he or she has had twenty years of service, but the additional service credit that may accrue to a deceased participant under tele provision shall in no en* exceed the differ- once between his or her age on the date of death and the mandatory retirement age applicable to his or her grade in the Agency. In all cases arising under paragraphs (b), (0), (d). or (s) of this section, It shall be assumed that the deceesed participant 111111 qualified for retirement on the date of Ws death. Voluntary retirement Sec. 933. Any participant in the system Who is at least fifty years of age and has rendered twenty years of service may on his own application and with the consent of the Director be retiree from the Agency and re- the .441 xiPaPf. Irin.LFWA, thirleidhei year groin ery.lor determined. ILIP04:4P reinstate iiny,1400cl4ccket?d, ,dlsabltlty iennettenti Ini the grade i.? 'Which he was *relies at time of iretlreineht,.'eeiiii.'Plitnt4.:paay, taking Into consideration The age, qt1Q,Bastions; find expartericei:of such isneitilkirit;?1:and. the Pr.sent:, OOP 43 the 4itenrY,14"410614"him to a grade higher t.tw4. teuteolon 4440 thie.0141;leta?:?Istitiiree, to ow:intent; , Man* iieter the nate 'prilthic?ingaeoliiatigai:,:ahnW*.I.Aeoisey Cr ? until the741,4110,,reinstatenient . or reap- pointinent in the Agency, whichever to ear- lier. Pees for eXeMtriations under this pro- vision.. together.- with reasonable i traveling and other expenses incurred in order to sub- mit to examination, shall be pied out of the lend.. If the annuitant fails to submit to examination as required ender this section, payment of the annuity shall be suspended until continuance of the disability is satis- factorily established. (Cu If ? a recovered disability annuitant whose annuity is discontinued is for any reason not reinstated or reappointed in the Agency, he shall be considered to have, been. separated within the meaning of paragraphs (a) and (13) of :section 234 as of the date La was retired for disability and he shall, after the discontinuance of the disability annuity, be entitled to the benefits of that section or of section 241(a) except that he may elect voluntary retirement in accordance with the provisions of section 233 if he can qualify under its provisions. (d) No participant shall be entitled to receive an annuity under this Act and com- pensation for injury or disability to himself under the Federal Employees' Compensation Act of September 7. 1918, as amended (5 11.8.0. 751 et seq.), covering the same period of time, This provision shall not bar the right of any claimant to the greater benefit conferred by either Act for. any Pert or the Same period of time. leetthie this provision nor any provision of the said Act of Sep- tember 7. 1918, as amended, shall be so construed as to deny the right of any par- ticipant to receive an annuity under this Act by reason of his own services and to receive concurrently any payment under each Act of September 7, 1018, as emended, by reason of the death of any other person. (e) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the right of any person en- titled to an annuity under this Act shall not be affected because such person has received an awarder compensation in a lump sum under Section 14 of the Federal Em- ployees' Compensation Act of September 7, 1918, as amended (5?13.8.0. 784), except that ellere such annuity is 'payable on account or the same disability for which compensa- tion under such section has ? been paid, so match of such compensation as has been pied for any period extended beyond the date such annuity becomes effective, as deter- mined by the Secretary of Labor, shall be refunded to the Department of Labor, to be peel into the Federal. employees' compensa- tion fund. Before such person shall receive such annuity he shall (1) refund to the De- pertinent of Labor the amount representing such commuted payments for such extended peried, or (2) authorize the deduction of such amount from the annuity' payable to him under this Act. which amount shall be transmitted to such Department for reim- bursement to such rune. Deductions from such annuity may be made from accrued and accruing payments, or may be prorated against and paid from accruing payments in such manner as the Secretary of Labor shall determine, whenever he finds that the linen- earvice iarvite, Airelpr- "siltelk Pont of 1100101:. grOCU Uninfli:Apaler the eget"' service that ti ocedenol wit*4214, peartiloni alas Sat **(V., may. upon emus** Money or at any time wine ..ellgthie; for : an aliOnny.,elent, ? 0OntribUtlens to the tumid ;;;Sit- rulpt. eau& reitne cietenntnit that eopank In whole. Or In part On the loyalty to the trotted mates), ? contributions in the fund arid ivititUttf; computed As pivsertl3ed' ? 231, comingtionig at the age of sway (b),'?siarnoipant who has q accordance With the provisions of (a) of thle Nation to receive g. witty octinmincIng at the age' Of- before reaching the age of sixty his a? buttons to the fund, with interieCniale. paid In accordance with, the proving= sections 241 and 281. (c) The Director may in tde retire participants in grade 06-44 and above If so retired they shall receive r=. benefits in accordance with the, . of section 221, provided they have -- he each ease not less than five years of qualifying and a total of ten years of serves, with the Agency. Any individual so retired who does not meet these service requirements "half receive the benefits provided line Individual" in grade 08-13 as set out In paragraph (d):' at this section. (e) The Director may in his discretion retire participants in grade 08-13 and below; and each such participant shall nionee?, ? (1) ono-twelfth of a year's eatery at bee then current salary rate fin each year ed service ane proportionately for a fronton 41d a year, but not exceeding a total of 000 PA!" salary at his then current salary rate, pare ' able without interest, froze the fund, lit equal installments on the lot day Ot Jan- uary following the participent's retirement and on the two anniversaries of this date inunedietely following: Provided, That tis special cases, the Director may in his dis- cretion lusoelerate or combine the Install- ment.; and (2) a refund of the contributions made to the fund, with interest ea provided in sec- tion 241(), except that In lieu of such re- fend such participant, if he hes at least five years of service credit toward retirement un- der the system, excluding military or navel . service that is credited In s000rdepoe With the provisions Of section 251 clr 3(1) (3). May elect to receive retirement banditti on , reaching the age of sixty In s000rdenois with' the provisions of section 221. In the event' that a participant who eras separated from grade 013-13 or 08-12 and who bas elected to receive retirement benefits diet before reaching the age of sixty, his death shall be oonsidered a death in service within the mooning of section 232. In the event that a participant who was separated &cm grads GS-li or below and who has elected to re-' cedes retirement benefits dies before reaching, the age of sixty, the total amount or his contributions made to the fund, with Interest as provided in section 24,1(a), shalt be paid In Vie, Deo. with in the tiO8 In accordance with the provisions of section 20(b). (e) Notwithstanding the provision' of DOC- titan 3477 of the Revised Statutes as emended (31 U.S.C. 203), or the provisions of any other law, a participant who is retired in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (d) of this section shall have the right to assign to any person or corporation the whole Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 1063 -4000 --.FPF IRelease 20 3/20 .:, q1A-RDP CO - . ? ceivIng benefits under ees" Comp :ajigation Act of nopteraber 7. ' as amende4:(517,13.0.:761 et seq.), and leavea,, NGRESSION 3-411ECO .R45 ? or any part of tinlibenefitereottifieble ? 'easement to paragraph (4) tiLor this ? Mandatory retirement for Aye . Om 235. (a) Any participant in -the. teratein In grade 08-18 or above shall 'Upon reaching the age of sixty-five be retired froth the Agency and receive retirement 'banal= In eceortiance with the ?provisions 0i:see:don 221, but whenever the IXreces* sball deter- lohie it to be in the public interest, he .ay (Stead =Oh '11'Part*CaP,41-1kArri12,-;teir a , Perked not to nieeedlive_year, (b) Any pertielpent. in the system, other than in grad,e or above. shall upon reaching the age of sixty be retiredIroril ttie Agency and reoeive retirement benefits in aocordance with the provisions of section 221. but whenever the Director shall deter. mine it to be in the public Interest. he may extend such a participant's service for a pe- riod not to exceed Ave years. Pan, W?WillPoeTTW)TT OP coarsravemers AND nnsaserr =CMS OP sadellarres MOOT= Bac. 242. (a) Whenever partrcipant be- comes separated from the Agency without becoming eligible for an annuity or a de- f erred annuity in accordance with the pro- visions of this Act, the total amount of con- tributions from his salary with interest there- on at per cent= per annum, compounded annually tie of December 31, and propor- tionately for the period served during the year of separation including all .contribu- tions made during or for such period, except as provided in section 281, shall be returned to him. (b) In the event that the total contribu- tions of a retired participant, other than voluntary contributions made in accordance with the provisions of section 281, with in- terest at 4 per oentum per annum com- pounded annually as Is provided In para- graph (a) of this section added thereto, ex- ceed the total amount returned to such par- ticipant or to an annuitant claiming through bun, in the form of annuities, accumulated at the same rate of interest up to the date the annuity paynientseesse under the terms of the annuity, the excess of the accumulated oontributions over the accumulated annuity payments shall be paid in the following order of precedence, upon the establishment of a valid claim therefor, and such payment aoall be a bar to recovery by an other person: (1) the beneficiary or beneficiaries des- ignated by such participant in writing to the Director: (2) If there by no such beneficiary to the surviving wife or husband of such partic- ipant; (3) If none of the above, to the child or c hiltiren of such participant and descend- of deceased Children by representation; (4) If one nf the above, to the parents of such participant ar the survivcr of them; (5) if none of the above, to the duly ap- pointed executor or administrator of the eetate of such participant; (6) If none of the above, to other next of kin of such participant as may be deter- mined by the Director in his judgment to b. legally entitled thereto. (r) No payment eha/1 be made pursuant to paragraph (b)(6) of this eeatiem until a:ler the expiration of thirty days from the death of the retired participant or his *ne- vi ving annuitant. Parr T?Mi.JOD BIOLVTVZ POW ATOM:TUX Cornputatton of length of aerelee Sac. 251. For the purposes of this Act, the period of service of a participant snail be computed from the date he becomes a par- ticipant under the provisions of this Act, but all periods of separation from the Agency and so much of any leaves of absence with- out pay as may exceed six months in the fag- In any calendar year shall be ex- cluded,. except leaves of alment -while re- of *bonnet_ mitten participants while pewee ? Icirlitinit vs and' Arm Navy.Air 1POritear.1-- risen ".tioncrable military naval =Mee In the y, Marine 04?rps, or Ornat Onset Ot tbel3sittim at! tea?. pi ;or ;en*. ? credit Sac. (a) &participant may. subtle:de at the provtdona of this section. Illehliise his parted Of atireitate-..' ? -" (1) idviliiiii"earitoi in 'the executive. judk can, and. legIsletive breaches of the Pederac; Government end int the District at GoluMben- government, prior to becoming SP %s and ? fI"-- (2) active and honorable military or nalral-'Pera "_11174P, (e,), let service In the Army, Navy. Air Force. litarin?;-. OM" .Or Comet Guard at the United Statellie,..-:,gen;:ges? a Dot be'. (b) A particApent may obtain Price oteillert.. Mated cavsrthgjie.1111642-sda service credit in &Ma:CO.110e With P. _,Pr97 l'..11TOTIVAIA0?.441e 1111140411(Par,k4PeAtt Whihe visions or Parintrepn- (a) (1) of this *mew 4ierfcirMing active- Military:or naval etinkoll by making a special contribution to ties- ea eba.diamr. ph,,,T. Airlift". :t fund equal to 6 per coin= of his basic ? or Come Guard Ge the muted deataa,--7-7,, annual salary for each year of sank* for pAaT a_agewirT_ 77:71_ ?? , Animate of eppropristions needed . which credit is sought prior to November 8, 1960, and at 6% per centum thereafter with Interest compounded annually at 4 per nen age. The rarectur gaga wapara the- centum per annum to the date of payment, estimates of the allittlal aperopefealons Any such participant may, under such con- tinned to be made to the fund, *lid shall ditions as may be determined In each In- muse to be made actuarial vultlathing Of the 7:- stance by the Director, pay such special fund at Intervals of five years. et Oftener I:- contributions in installments. deemed necessary by him. - (0) (1) If an ofticer or employee under investment of moneys in the/wird some other Government retirement system Sec. 262. The Director may, with the ape becomes a participant In the system by die rect transfer, such ?Meer or employee's total prove.' of the Secretary of the Treasurrn. contribution' and deposits, including Interest invest from time to time In interest-bearing ., such pore accrued thereon, except voluntary contrtbu- securities of the United States tions, shall be transferred to the fund *floc- !ions of the fund as in his judgment may not be Immediately required for the payment live aa of the date such officer or employee of annuities. cash benefits, refunds. and becomes a participant in the system. Zech allowances. and the income derived from such Deicer or employee shall be deemed to consent to the transfer of such funds and such investments shall constitute a part Of . such transfer shall be a complete discharge such fund. anti acquittance of all claims and demands Attachments of moneys against the other Government retirement Svc. 283. None of the moneys mentioned fund on account of service rendered prior to in this Act shall be sesegnable stiller In lair becoming a participant in the system. Or equity, or be subject to enenitton. (2) No participant, whose contributions attachment. garnishment, or other legal ;trona - are transferred to the fund in accordance OW =cent as provided section234(e). ' with the provisions of paragraph (e) (1) of PAWT 11--WILTrairD PAWTICIPAPTTS ItSCALL131,, this section. Mall be required to make con- waren exerronrent tar rent aosiecy. 011 tribu dons In addition to these transferred or wron ? for periods of service for which full con- aaramtoren rim ger/ear mute tributions were made to the other Govern- SEC' 271- (a) The Director may recall an - retired participant to duty In the Ageney ment retirement fund, nor shall any refund whenever he shall determine such recall la . be made to any such participant on account of contributions made during any period to ,,, the public Interest the other Government retirement fund at (b) Any such participant recalled to duty a higher rate than that Axed by section 211 in the Agency In accordance with the pro- of this Act for contributions to the fund. of paragraph La) of Mb' .___"?41?11-bree, (3) No participant, whose contributions reinstated or reapPoiniaa aCCOrglanee are transfered to the fund In accordant* tb? Pecwial?na of eeatb? 231(b) aballe ea serving, be entitled in lieu of his AIM with the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, shell receive credit for periods to the fullsalary the grade In *bleb be of service for which a refund of contrfbu- serving. During such service, he shall contributions to the fund in accordance with'- mons has been made, or for which no con- tributions were made to the other Govern-' the provisions of section 211. WIten,he vette to his retired status, Ids annuity shall . client retirement fund. A participant may, c - however, o5taLn credit for such prior service be determined anew in accordance with the , by malting a special contribution to the fund provisions of section 221. in accordance with the provisions of pare- Reempionmeest . . . _ graph (b) of this section. Vac. 272. Notwithstax4ing any other, prin.-7! (d) No particpant may obtain prior civil- vision of law, a participant retired undertue ...,_' N tan service credit toward retirement under province= of this Act .ball not, by realm. the system for any period .of Chili= eery-- of his retired status, be barred from enc4.;:"q" Ice on the basis of which he is receiving ployment In Federal Government service 112.,,L or will in the future be entitled to receive . any appotutive position for which he is quelema'*: any annuity under another retirement eye- bled. An annuitant so reemployed shell'7,-.., ,- 4 tern covering civilian personnel of the Gore serve at the will of the appointingeloylne..r,f1.4,:::'' ernment. Reemployment compensation (e) A participant may obtain prior mill- .:,....1 tarp or nava] service credit in accordance SAC- 371- 014 moterlataianditil any *then'. , with the provisions of paragraph (s) (2) of provision or taw, any anrciaitantl who has re- .' this section by applying for it to the Di- tired under this Act and who Is reemployed .. rector prior to retirement or separation from in the Federal Government service in any the Agency, However, in the case of a par- appointtee position either on a part-time or Valliant who Is eligible for and reedy:es full-time basis shall be emillied to receive ' retired pay on account of trilhtary or naval the salary of the pc...sit:on in which he is Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 ? . ribio:rinut 1." ConiMieke wi ;.,octrober--. 00100050011-2 80 , ?-- -t ?-z---Therepe* JangPOgEllr.rill Lit eXeiart..thiring any beste glscey Wen SMOVItjant *' section 2tl3 10 tEi" vs' Os the Moe of ,.014.01#19.- 10'1 rectorait- aa suchChatrina.44 aniP4n1.114' 4 grlgt4 4 .4lec- :4 o ttbanentitetted, outuseuthouoarett milt:137sflAe Alen ?mar verm reaelves ? wm t4r, 11" 'Ibinbt ?It 16114111" ble frein"Tierti " Coajekt::kte 1440"Eirbif -1,4215,4110,041: 11;re' slit wilt.' :Nati of beeeffee , ? ,tattitloo -1..rgai dwelt* -nor* ? 4, Vt544,.. glaCirr ..Theyr :rautil'"nd 4":1? obleetiVe. trea *trice Wiserie'datisteartiatterattd. octal rho s - -tired t"aa t . Urns fireree' Agency: efilotee'arid - ployment." r bell rerarOoiment t'z'Other DbiestOrAteC1.54- it toilne1000p. reit informatioa rell-ttng Uvular abased' 'So liffrOt btollY or", , .7,appellie,,ally on Pag '. s 'su pay directly to such eh- . (it) se specialised heeiuse of aecunty fei.-'. ; at Jioevi.g, to ic-, '-' huitrth ,140 litlirf or the 'Poeitinn in which" quirsiesets as. to, be twiny dIstirightsheshles" sentence of sootaoh .263 'and '' he IS Serlrft, , from normal tovernment employment, harti;- , _ _ A, _ . .....__..,,_,. , - (OJ fn-tneerent of any overpayment under .te roferredlo airparttoipanta. who shim be in nen thereof the roirowiegi il.a. T tri . - FEthe-rairtry peyelste to such reemploYeo ? Nit. RIVERS ?ot.gloutit Caroline. ,Mr. w emu" are detemuned-brabelnialeaki&' -el annuitant, -ere from- any ether moneys, in- chairman. , the purpose oi this amend?. ' to..ea , to ,iii support -Of- tisane! ImAleitreit . this einitiOn. Merit overpayment shall be re- entitled to thebenefits of the tern" The Director may dealt:ate covererthillifthboldIng the *Mount involved . trNesuch Agency ?deers ind . eluding' intearinutty; pavane in aceordance,, mem is to establish legislative erittiria abroad hasiccosus life ce batitteeeltilOire,71- with, the Werrislons of this Act. by which the Agency. would deterMine specianlea, us* of eerturley respairenearta rArr i?voLuirrair correneurioes those employees who would becorne ishr-: . 113 -th be. Oar, lY nistingniehablelreatiffatunti, A 01,3vernment employment. twee:tee, reftereeit-7:. ," SEC: 281, (a)- Any participant may, at his ticipants in this' system. The conimit- ? to as participants, who shall be entitled; trilq- _ option and under such regulations as may be tee during, hearings examined very care- the esoceis or the system,- . - stunts in multiples of t per centum of his fully, the question of what type of Cm- ? 4asssasper ormico ST' wo.,- ..,?... prescribed by the Director. deposit additional bowie palmy. bUt not in excesse of 10 per 1740YeffII should be covered and which em- . Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chtannaii,sfafItir, centum of such salary, which amounts to- ployees should remain under nornial eivti substitute amendment: - : .-......)..,,..-:.::,-,,Z-,-*- .., ger with interest .at S per cesium per service retirement. ' ? . ' The Clerk read as follows annum. compounded mutually as of Decem- It was made clear that the ptirpose Was . Amendment offered by Mr. ...01011111-11a_ a 1 ... .. . . ber 91, arid proportionately for the period to cover only career employees whose substitute for the amendment offered by Mr.' , eluding all contributions made during or for duties and responsibilities. are predom- Ravi= of South Carolina: On page 21?. bet- _. served during the year of his retirement, In- _ such period, shall, at the date of his retire- inantly concerned with the conduct and ginning on line 13. strike the aratceentence support of intelligence activitiee in for- mut insert the following: _, . ntent find at his election. be? dditional life the hearings, and with actual (mks as ex- from time to time such agencies, ?Moats; and employees whose duties are determined by: the Director to be in 'support of agency se- : GROSS. Mr. ChairlitailZ, I , ' (1) returned to him in lump sum; or eign countries. It was also developed in _-arte. 203. The Director may designate ' amples furnshed in exeeutive sessions. that career employees whose duties are so specialized that they are placed at an unusual disadvantage when required to seek other employment would also be covered by this system. significant number of these actual caves were furnished the comMittee in (2) used to purchase an a anntiltr or (3) used to purchase an additional life , annuity for himself and to provide for a cash payment on his death to a beneficiary whose name shall be notified in writing to the Di- rector by the participant: Or (4) used to purchase an additiorial life annutty for himself and a We annuity com- mencing on his death payable to a hens- shalt be notified in c sr), wn writing to the Director by the participant with a guaranteed return to the beneficiary or his legal representative of an amount equal to the cash payment referred to in subPexN3rapb (3) above. (b) The benefits provided by subpara- graphs (2), (3), or- (4) of paragraph (a) of this section shall be actuarially equivalent In value to the payment provided for by sub- paragraph (a) (1) of this section and ahall be -calculated upon such tables of mortality as may be from time to time prescribed for this purpose ny the Director, (c) a participant shall become separated: from the Agency for any reason except' retirement on an annuity. the arnount of any -additional deposits with Interest at 3 per centurn per annum, compounded as 15 provided in paragraph (a) of this section. Made by him tinder the provisions of said paragraph (a) .shall be refunded n arf ner provided in section 241 for the return of contributions and Interest in the case of death or separation from..the Agency. (d) Any benefits payable to a participant or to his beneficiary in respect to the addi- tional deposits provided under this section shall be In addition to the beneete other- wise provided under this Act. Mr. RIVERS'of South Carolina (inter- . . rupting reading of the bill). Mr. Chair- man. I ask unanimous consent that the bill be considered as read and open at any point to amendment. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from South Caronnal ttvirtes abroad or in this country that are hazardous to life or health." . , ) (Mr. GROSS asked and was given permission to revise and extend ,Jois' ' . ....? , remarks.) lia..: ' xecutive hearings to illustrate the before. types of employees who would be cov- ered. One of the threads running through these cases was the hazard both to person and to health. Employees as well as their dependents have contracted diseases which would rarely, if ever, be found in the United States. We heard about cases where employees were wounded or killed by gunfire, and in employee in the CLA who is not consid- some cases imprisoned. ered to be employed in a security &Bence- In certain phases of the Agency's aie- Therefore, they could all come under this tivities there are requiremente for un- language "so specialized because of seeti-e usual sPecialties requiring long years of rite requirements." Why 'mind- not arduous training for which skills there every employee of the CIA be Widrethat / could be no utilization in normal employ- label, definition and interpretation Al ment pursuits. ? I said before. I am perfectly vrIlling to provide a special retirement Program for We learned of certain situations where. skills and he himself. bee throughhazardous life or no fault of the emp Yee, histhese to health. but am . the amendment offeredy7 the'. ? gentleman frotn South Carolina, in_ my opinion closes the door and reopens it. I am not willing to leave to the Di- rector of the CIA the full determination of normal .- Government employment. The language also reads to this effect. "so specialized because of security re quirements." I do not know .of *MY whe ar" engaged in w"k th not it tb or tor certain willing to leave it to the Director of the the needs of the Agency ame excess reasons he could no longer be utilized ? CIA t,o include anybody elae in this4ast effectively by the Agency. - These gre thp retirement program. That is the impart ? people who will be covered?not the ' of my amendment. It does not change clerk, analyst, or researcher who spends the .remainder section 203. - - his career in Washington. Mr. CORBETT. - Mr. Chairman. will In furtherance of the objective of con' ? the. gentleman yield?. cisely stating these criteria and furnish- Mr. GROSS. I yield to the gentle- Ing statutory guidelines to the Direttor man. In eelecting participants without at the Mr. CORBETT. I want to commend same time imposing undue rigidity, lan- the gentleman for this substitute amend- gunge has been developed which is ROW,. Ment, that he has offered which would factory to those members with whom I tighten up a very loose arrangement. In have consulted arid is also agreeable to the that place taking this kind of action Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 Fr t Release 2002/03/20 ? CIA:RDp78-03721A000100050011-2 tAri: -'01i/tiditESSitit447.*011:14,!: Sneetafized,s , the ent say ty actiei berej in any , Seiende Pe?0, rue pension iidtpi*rop4 . bind*of 6ji? Th2t.0 It has to be, this .ent of the fittitt*ati :freed.; '.0e.e40*.# aceaa t40.00:' which will proilvi, health. Menet question. Stre 6,41 4 qr.. not the first teme On ve ? IA UAL Ian& * PoslUatin/beie thee an- swer to the question? af Id the genteemet from Pennsylvania should Ude? ? would impair the national Mr. CORBETT. ?Thee ii w the gentleman In those words. Mr. BATES. I will be lead to give this information to the gentleman. Mr. CORBETT. I said If the gentle- man could answer. Mr. BATES. I will be gla.d to give thbi Information to the gentlemen.Personalbe Mr. conBrrr. Could you imagine some case that would not be covered by this? ? Mr. BATES. Yes Indeed. and I will be glad to give the information to the gentleman. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. I can imagine one, and I will be glad to give It to you. We need electronics experts and people with unusual skills requiring all kinds of training. Mr. CORl3ETT. If you need them, why do you retire them early? ? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Be- cause the skills may disappear. Mr. CORSET!'. They may do what? Mr. RIVER.S of South Carolina. The need for them may disappear. That is why. Mr. BATES. Mr. Chairman. I still have the floor here. I would like to say that we did go into this matter very fully. Both on the record and off the record we were told of the type of Individuals who do this work and the nature of the work which they perform. We were satisfied as rep- resentatives of this Congress, with the answers which were given to us. Al- though we originally had certain doubts, when it was all over that doubt was dis- spelled. It seems to me if this Congress Is to take action today, It should resolve the doubt so that the security of our country would not be impaired. / am satisfied in my own mind as to the need for this second provision and the wording of the language. When we went before the Committee on Rules they had the same problem in their mind. This is language which has been cleared by the Committee on Rules and it spells out what we had in mind when the mat- ter was considered by the committee. It seems to me this is as far as we can go in considering the nature of the matter under discussion. Therefore, I ask that the substitute be defeated and ethe amendment of the gentleman from South Carolina be passed. ' Mr. JOHANSEN. Mr. Cheleinete will the gentleman yield? Mr. BATES. I yield to the gentleman from Michigan. Mr. JOHANSEN. I wonder If some of the misgivings and concern that are be- ing expressed here, and which I share. do not arise from the fact that the bill that the committee brings to the floor has a completely wide open door. Ap- rntn elfl#1,013,1.4itei ' min sure the gentleman being the rank- ing minority meniber, of the House COM' e mittee on Pest Office and OYU Service will also agree with me that we must watch carefully from here on out as to the number of Persons and the expendi- tures that are made from the retirement fund because. I repeat, it is $38 billion in the red and going deeper in the red he billions of dollars every year. Mr. CORBETT. And as this bill stands, you would not know how, many axe going to be able to draw on the Pen- sion--whetber it is hundreds or thou- sands or what the figure might be; is that not correct? Mr. GROSS. That is correct Mr. CORSET!'. I think both in the Interest of the fund and in the interest of fairplay for all the rest of the em- ployees whose paychecks contribute to' this retirement fund that this restriction ought to be passed. Mr. GROS& I again thank the gen- tleman from Pennsylvania, who is a vet- eran member of the Post Office and Civil Service Committee and who takes a lead- ing Part in the writing of all other re- tirement legialatione. , BATES. Mrrehainxiirie I rise In support of the amendment and in opposi- tion to the substitute. In the course of our hearings the doubts that were expressed by the gen- tleman from Pennsylvania and the gen- tleman from Iowa were also entertained by the members of the subcommittee. What they have said on this floor today is similar to the same statements which we ourselves made when we were in com- mittee. Contrary to what the gentle- man from Pennsylvania said, we did give this matter deep consideration. We went into it very thoroughly. So, when the representatives of the CIA came be- fore us we asked them specifically what they had in mind relative to these un- usual individuals to whom would accrue these retirement benefits. They spelled these things out in detail not only with reference to those engaged in hazardous work but also those engaged in fields so specialized that they were very-difficult to obtain. Upon the completion' of their remarks the members of our committee were unanimously satisfied with the an- se ers to the questions and we understood fully who was to receive the entitlements of this particular bill. CORBE'TT. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield!, Mr. BATES. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Mr. CORBETT. I would like to ask th r gentleman, if he can, to say what are iltsefie had a ogl m..seadild- thought OD the "'matter ? e that serious seeend 14111eitifffieliiitpurportai ,tie 'a the thought we bare% not a t but a. primary -thutur -tir-which 'developed today Is to be who consideri. this nd this ..?1 tEcatEnt that would come to theft, After we vsntlntn tt in I ociennittee received the asst ?10.110.ez 0 CIA as to wire they had in wee satisfied with these assurances. 4 ? JOWMIA4. Mr. chairman, move to stne eat the last word. ?ee 'Mr. Chairmah, I just raise the quote lion again?.-and r do net want to be ,un-' fair to or critical of the committee, but If', as the gentleman has said, this was a matter of. such earnest thought._ It seems to me that It would have been more timely to propose this ;corr ec Ye feature before the bill was brought out ; of the committee. But beyond that. the , thing that concerns me?and X think Z can conceive of a situation very readily In which it is impossible for security retie sons to spell out or itemize the types of . employment or position or job classifica- tion that are covered?but Is it Possible in some way, in expressions of members of the committee to give the clear legis- lative intent in connection with this par- ticular matter which will preclude the very thing which the members of the Committee on Post Office and Civil Serv- ice are so much concerned about? - Mr. HARDY. Mr. Chairman, will the, gentleman? yield? 'Mr. JOHANSEN. I am ham, to yle14';'- . ? to the gentleman from Virginia. Mr. HARDY. I think the only way' that that could be cleared up?and it ? cannot be expressed here on the floor? 's this. I will say to the gentleman that the transcript Of the hearings is curie plete, that all of these phases were dis- cussed fully by the subcommittee over a long period of time. There are classified transcripts of the hearings that are in the committee safe, and they establish without question the intent of the CIA with respect t9 the application of this ntonoset ? , Mr. JOHANSEN. I assume, therCfOre. . that I have the commitment of the gen- tleman from Virginia that the subcom- mittee of the Committee on Armed Serv- ices ? will police the matter to see that that intent is not violated? Mr. HARDY.. .1 am assured by the chairman of the full committee that the matter will be policed. Mr. RIVElt of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. JOHANSEN. ?I yield to the chair-' man of the subcommittee. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina.' Ur. Chairman, I was going to give the gen- tleman the same assurance that the gen- tleman for Virginia I Mr. ileseel gave.. What I read was this: In certain phases of the Agency's activities there are re- quirements for unusual specialties re- quiring !Ong years of arduous training for which in some cases there could be Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2 prOyeq For,Nurlibiamtogiciteme_o ytbv or Mr. .082!se leaded f .ftAtr"oll fir4=70.t.romi?74.ia 14,a4 x PIWired. eler' _ -Una.?ihe gentleman JkaSttrances that ? we have carefully Policeil this work. Mr. GROSS.. fdfr, Ottitirmant will the gentleman Yield? Mr. J011ittlnlf. ' GROSS. The gentleman from South Carolina says that this early re- tirement is necessary in part to take care of specialties, and he mentioned elec- ? trollies. imagine we have several thousand SPeelfillStS in electronics throughout the Government. If we are going to provide early-retirement for all the specialists in electronics throughout the Government, that $38 billion that the retirement fund is in the red will be $50 billion if this is the criteria you are going to use to try to convince us that we ought to give early retirement to whomsoever the Director of the CIA may select. Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. JOHANSEN. I yield. ? Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, in response to the gentleman from Iowa there are many specialties. I happened to mention electronics. There are many that we cannot mention. We know what they are. But we cannot here open up the heart of the CIA to everybody. Mr. JOHANSEN. Of course, we do not expect the gentleman to do that and we would not request it for a moment.. In taking this time I believe I have received what I asked for, which was the assur- ance that there was a clear legislative intent in the record of the subcommittee and the assurances of the committee and the subcommittee chairmen and the dis- tinguished chairman of the full commit- tee, that the matter would be carefully ? Mr. rawats of South Carolina. The gentleman has it. Mr. JOHANSEN. I appreciate that. I will say too that I trust the gentleman - understands a little bit of the distrust that some of us on the legislative com- mittee have toward the bureaucracy. The CHAIRMAN, The question is on t the substitute amendment offered by the gentleman from Iowa, to the amendment offered by the gentleman from South Carolina. The question was taken: and on a division (demanded by Mr. ()toss) there were?ayes, 20, noes, 87, So the substitute amendment was rejected. W The CHAIRMAN. The question now recurs on the amendment offered by the a gentleman from South Carolina. The amendment was agreed to. Knanencnev, It would be vary Intermit- ng to take a trip to the moon. But I-can- n ? and' PriIj4ii?io onosideb, rd ft '10tf 1101PAUtImi to atter eteeroyeil by the &airtimn. and ranking minority Members or the Armed Serviees ? Cs mittleft, Nouse anti Benass.*L _.24);:'*VZRE3-'.of South&Minas *if Chaintriall. Wilk the gentler:1W 310,4?... )1r../ON723 _of Missouri: I yield to" the gentlemoiii from South Carolina:* Mr. RIVERS of South Carolina. We accept your amendment. Mr. JONES of Missouri. I thank_ the gentleman.? ? The CHAIRMAN. The question Is .06 the amendment offered by the gentle- man from Missouri [Mr Joan] The amendment was agreed to. Mr. MILLER of California, Mr. Chairman,! move to strike the requisite number of words. (Mr. MT1IPR, of California asked and was given permission to speak out of order and to revise and extend his re- marks.) ? Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chairman, we have all listened now to a lot of interpretations concerning what Premier Khrushchev meant when he talked about the Soviet moon program on October 28. I would like to point out that most of the interpretations which have been enuelated thus far have come from those with no direct connection with, or responsibility for, the space pro- gram. I have taken the trouble to look up the exact transcript of Mr. KhrU- shcheVe remarks and I heartily commend It to the attention of every Member of House. A careful reading of what Mr. Khrushchev actually said, to my mind, does not indicate that the Soviets are cutting down on their own space pro- gram: it does not indicate that they are not heading for a manned lunar orbit in the near future; it does not indicate that they are abandoning any part of their original plans. Let me make one other point. The fact that we have not heard much lately concerning any deep space efforts on the part of the Soviets does not at all mean that they have not been attempting them. We can be pretty certain that ? they have been making a number of complex attempts which in one way or another have not succeeded. They, like ourselves, have run into a very advanced technical area where the developmental going is rough. Very possibly they are having enough scientific and engineering roubles to keep them relatively quiet. Mr. Sneaker, the precise comments of " Chairman Khrushchev follow: ? Journalist Leopold Vargas, of Colombia asks. Can you tall us whether a night to the moon by Soviet cosmonauts is planned fOr the not too distant future? ? stoat their expiciftsesoti want to IPOInPfta ,W4 at at present say when ,this win be done. are not at Twesent planning flights by osnronauts to the moon Soviet scientists re working on this problem. It is being tud led ass scientific problem and We neees. ary research it being done. I have a report Pie to Ans moon ttout Is is clear &eyed bole 006 .trary. 1t Toni rNult In ths4tr atftequsetlyqlotae boar ft any laegar,-ear *moon. But, we are an speak illartoolliti. Misch done and good preparatiima Maul eight to the moop by Man. Mr. Chairman, I *salt to `reiOra whist I have said thls floor Many' . tintea; that in sending- st man tO"the!:: moon We are doing so not beauties- we. are in competition with the Reading oe: anyone else but because this program'. Is designed as a part of the scienlifie facet of the exploration of outer waft. The information we develop froM AMA Program will be used In that exploration. I for one am not ready to see the leader- ship in this field ourrendered to the Rus- sians. The CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, the Committee rises. Accordingly, the Committee rose: suid the Speaker having resumed- the chair, Mr, 'IsliostraS, Chairman of the Commit- tee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that that Com- mittee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 8427) to provide for the establishment and maintenance of a Central Intelligent* Agency retirement and disability system for a limited num;- ber of employees, and for other purposes,' pursuant to House Resolution 843, here- ported the bill back to the House with sundry amendments adopted by the Committee of the Whole. The SPEAKER. Under the rule, the previous question is ordered. ' ? Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment? ? If not, the Chair tein put them en grog. :The amendments were agreed to. -The SPEAKER. The question is on the engrossment and third reading Of the bill ' The -bill was ordered to be erigrOssed and read a third time, and was read the third time. The SPEAKER, The question is on the passage of the bill. The bill Was passed. - A motion to 'reconsider was told on the table. arrutrainrr or unDaLE7 NOBLE _ (Mr. GARY asked and was given per- mission to address the House for minute and to revise and Wend his fa- - marks.) . , Mr. GARY. Mr. Speaker, *on the last day of this month Mr. Lizeisley IL Noble will retire from his position as Deputy Assistant Postmaster General and Con- roller of the Post ?nice Department. when 14r. Noble joined the Post Office Departtnent on September 1, 1955, as Its Approved For Release 2002/03/20 : CIA-RDP78-03721A000100050011-2