CABLE TO GENERAL SCOWCROFT FROM AMBASSADOR EILTS, CAIRO 121

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: Library of Congress
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): LOC-HAK-216-3-10-7
• Release Decision: RIPLIM
• Original Classification: S
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• Document Creation Date: January 11, 2017
• Document Release Date: October 14, 2011
• Sequence Number: 10
• Publication Date: March 3, 1974
• Content Type: CABLE

No Objection to Declassification in Part 2011/10/14: LOC-HAK-216-3-10-7
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PLEASE PASS FOLLNT,RG T. THE SECRETARYPv MOST
;.FEDITIOU5 MFANI :
2, THIS MORNING I WAS..A$KFO TO MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT
At NOON. WHEN I A RIVED, ? AHMY WAS ALSO THERE. THE
MEETING TOOK PLACE ON YH. LAWN OF HIS GIZAvILLA. 'SADAT
WAS RELAX OD AND DRESSE NFORM"AI.Lv. AFTER 'EXTENDING
F"ff LICITAT1ONSr HE SA!D $ u"ANTES TO GIVE U5 A BRIEF ING RE
HiS TALKS WITH GROH'K_D'. ; SINCE FAt?4MY WAS TAKING NOTES, I
INFER THIS WAS ALSO THe F.I~$T TIME HE HAD HAD THIS BRIEFIN;.
SADAT SPOKE FROM MEKIY ANiiFAT TIMES HIS ACCOUNT WAS
R PETITIOUS. I HAVE- SOUGHT ,8ELCW To DISTI"LI BOTH ITS
ESSENCE AND FLAVOR.. i
3 BY WAY OF BACKGRO{ ND, SADAT SAID THAT SINCE YOUR
F~RST VISIT A '~MIS~ I iTA~.jDItrG" APPEARS TO HAVE DEVELOPED
BETWEEN HIM AND THE SIVIETc x DUE t.ARGELY TO THE SOVIETS'
M T*4OO OF DEALING WITH; Mj,H. SOVIETS HAD MADE A. "COMPLETE
SITUATION" OUT OF IT ANO N;HAD ADOPTED A "NE' f P01..ICY."
GROMYKO SPOKE VERY CAN iI#Lv AND INSISTED MO ONE ELSE, NOT
EVEN AN INTERPRETER,. B PRFSENT AT THE MEETING. ALTHOUGH
GP:0MYKO+S ENGLISH IS POs THEY MANAGED TO .COMMUNICATE.
S I'NCE DEVERSOIR, SADAT C NW IP4UEP, SOVIETS THOUGHT THEY
HAD HIM "IN A FIK." T#JE SOU' HT TO EXPLOIT THIS To THE
UT'MCST. THANKS TO YOllt EFDRTS,- THIS SOVIET ATTEMPT HAS
FAILED. "Wf HAVE. ACt#?L VEO MUCH AMID CHANGED THE SITUATION
COMPLETELY." SOVIETS j,. SADAT'S VIEW, HAVF MISCALCULATED.
THEY BELIEVED. NOTHING W00 CU 1 OF OUR COOPERATION.
THEY HAVE BEEN "DAZED'" W H 4t HAS HAPPENED, AS A RESULT,
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TjHE P-OL IT'8L1RO., OF Iii ; GROMY.KO IS NOW A MEMBERS HAD
P A 4EENT1.Y REACHED ETIN L~US I N THAT GROMYKO RE SENT TO
YIT AS A "VANGUA"':
4. SADAT SAID HIS TES WITH GRD sYKO HAD BEEN FRANK AND
COMPREHENSIVE. H OLnD THE SnnVIET FOREIGN MINISTER
THAT THE SOVIETS *HA nUGHT TO EXPLOIT THE POST-DEVER I]IR
I TUATION BY NOT RPAING' THE ARMS THAT EGYPT HAD
RFQUESTFO. IN RESPOE, GpOMYK? MADE TWO PnINTS. FIRSTr
Hp STRESSED THAT EX~1l NG SOVIET UNION FROM MIDDLE FAST
T Ir t S AND DANGEROUS PROBLEM" FOR
SITUATION IS A "MO
All'lfR
IT.
THE SOVIETS AND THAT fi SOVIETS CANNOT ACC011
SFC.ONQs THE SOVIETS ARE:PRE~PAREP TO REDRESS WHATEVER HAD
HAPPENED AFTER DEV'E.R.DIR OR EVEN PEFORE IN AN EFFORT TO
STRENGTHEN THEIR RELATIONS WITH EC,YPT. THE SOVIET "BIt.,
T,,FREE" ARE PREPARED TO ASSUME THIS RESPONS IjIL ITY. THEY
WISHED ONLY TO RE ASSURED AV SAnAT THAT HE WILL NOT SEEK
TO EXCLUDE THEM FRQ* MIPD1.F EAST PROBLEM.
SADAT SAID HE POINTED OUT THAT THE' ACHIFVEMENTS TO
DATE HAD BEEN LARGELY, THE &ESULT OF YOUR INS EFAT IGABLE
ENERGYr E.G. THE SOF jMT~r- YO-lR DECEMBER AND JANUARY
VISITS., ETC, HE HAD AS ED GROMYK(J WHAT THE SOVIETS CAN
On KITH THE ISRAEL ;S14 THAT USG ALONE HAS ANY
INFLUENCE ON THE LATTER+r : WHEN GROMYKO GR.UOGINGLY AGREED
WITH THIS JUDGEMENT, S:AQAT,_,HAD ASKED W14Y SOVIETS ARE
$O SENSITIVE ABOUT US-YP`II+N RELATIONS. '- C,ROMYKO RES-
PUP4?EI? THAT SOVIETS A,RE C0.CERNF0 SADAT IS fl DRIFTING
TOWARD THE WEST." S DAT HAD RESPONDED THAT IF THIS HENE-
PITS HIS COUNTRYs i4t `WILL OR SCI. HE REMINDED GR.ONYKO
ai: EVENTS OF 1972 ANI3,' RESSEQ IS INDEPENQFNCE? IN '72r
WHEN. SOVIETS HAD TH -G)l- "YDU HAD MEs" HE HAD EXPELLED ALL
SOVIETS MILITARY ADV'IS , .. HE SHOULD HAVE BONE SO AGAIN
LAST MONTHS SADAT TOLD GRCIMYKf7s ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT
10, THE EGYPTIAN-SOVIEY TREATY AND SOVIET FArILITIES ON
THE MEDITERRANEAN. $DVItTS,s HE CHARGED, HAS? CONSTANTLY
St L4t;HT TO EXPLOIT THE TU THIN,
b. GROMYKO HAD NOTE,,W PUBLIC MENTION HAS RECENTLY
BEEN MADE OF SOVIET I FIRTS-. HE REQUESTED THAT SADAT
INCUDE REFERENCE TO 513CN SOVIET EFFORTS IN HIS PUBLIC
STATEMENTS. SPECIFICALLY, SHE:ASKED THAT IN THE UPCOMING
EtYPTIAN-SOVIET COMMUNIQUE 'AT Tw4E ENO OF HIS VISIT, SOME-
THING BE SAID ON THIS PQINT. SADAT HAD IN PRINCIPLE
ACRFED AND HAD TOLD H$ 1 TO TALK Tn FAHMY.
1, AT THIS POINT FANNY INTERJECTED THAT GROM?YKD HAS
AI RFAOY DISCUSSED SU*;IFCT WITH ~4Iw, GROMYKn WANTS AN
ExPLICIT PARAGRAPH THAT EGvPT W!L(. HANDLE EVERYTHING IN
RECA`? .EI?
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GFNE0. SADAT INS.T 'i*D ~;AHMY Tt? CAST ANY REFERENCE TO
S~LlV,IE EFFORTS IN E L TERM$ p PERHAPS SY
CA LI G THAT SOV1 UNIO'4 IS nNF OF CO-CHAIRMEN I)F
FNE; ?AL, CONFERENCE.:, AHMY- !S-PEA!e ING TO ME, ASKED THAT WE
40T BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT. APPEARS IN THE FINAL C,OMMUNIQUF,
HF ASSURED ME THAT WHA 1VEs:l HAS To BE PUT IN WILL BE
CcNSISTFNT WITH SAOA1' ANA' HIS UNDERSTANDINGS ',WITH YOU.
GROMYKO HAD AsK Ii IF EGYPT IS NflW TREATING SOVIETS
AND USG "5O-500x? (THE tPRESf DENT POINTEDLY NOTED) GROMYKO' S
P'RASE.) SADAT HAD. AGAIN vEM'INDE1 GROMYKD THAT EGYPT IS
INDEPENDENT. NO SP. C.IA P, IWtLEGES ARE GIVEN TO ANY
OUTSIDERS. HOWEVER, STIVIFT'S HAVE IN FACT" HAD PRIVILEGES
SUCH AS EGYPTIAN-SOVIE'T TREATY' FaCI,LITIES ON THE MEDI-
ERR~ANEAN ETC. WHY, HE ASKEDs SHOULD HE NOT NOW IMPROVE
HIS RELATIONS WITH 1$" 1NTTED STATES?
GROMYKO HAD RESPtD SHAT SOVIETS HAVE Nfl QBJEC.TION
Trs THIS, BUT HAO NOT KNOWN '.`THE FACTS. SAOAT'SAiD THIS WAS
THEIR OwN FAULT. OV I` ' S HAVE FOR SOME 1Is NOT HAD AN
AMDASSAPOR HERE AND MIE_s SAr)ATs IS NOT PREPARED TO AGREE
Trl HAVE VINDGRADOV COKE' BACK. HI REMINDED rRDMYKQ THAT
fi-+E PREVIOUS VINQGRADIY; HAr '' BEEN FINE AND TH AT THE DIALOGUv
()uRING HIS PERIOD HAD' N GOOD. GROMYKO AGREEf TO 00
WHATEVER SADAT WISHES ON S:fIVIET REPRESENIATIDN.
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in. 'SAGAT HAD THEM A,SM D IF, IT IS A C-CINDIT1p-N CQF FURTHER
SOVIET AID THAT Hi1.L'A1 PUBLICt.Y ABOUT SOVIET EFFORTS.
GROMYKO REPLIED IN NEGATIV . SAOAT HAO SAID, HE WAS GLAD.
TO HEAR THIS' SINCE AS ORO4YKO KNEW HE ALWAYS SPOKE
FRANKLY. IF SOVIET INSISTED, HE WOULD ALSn HAVE TO
EXPLAIN HOW THEY HAD ,SOUGHT TO BOX HIM IN AcTER DEVERSOIR.
I1. ADVERTING TO S #A S EARLIER REMARK ABOUT YOUR
ENERGETIC ACTIVITIES GROMyKO ASKED COULD Hf NOT BE
ENERGETIC AS YOU? . SADAT RESI'0Nf3EO THAT HE COULD OF COURSE
BE SO' BUT ISRAEL W~"'NOT HEEr . GROMYKO HAD OBSERVED
ISRAELIS HAVE ASKED E RE,TORATI!1N OF DIPLOMATIC RELA-
T'IONS, BUT SOVIETS . AR,E NOT PREPARED TO AGREE,.
I2. SA0AT HAD THEN ItQLI ,HIM Of PRESIDENT NIXON'S VISIT
IN MAY. WITH THIS JEVELATION. HE RELATED WITH OBVIOUS
SATISFACTION, "I REALLY SHACKED HiM." HE REMINDED GROMYKO
TH: AT BRFZHNEV HAD EN , +[VITED SEVERAL TIMES,, BUT HAD
HE HAS VISITED SOVIET
NEVER CCtME. IN CONTI, SADAT SAID.,
'UNION FOUR TIMES, UT ` S , Nr' IT PREPARED T-O 'GO AGAIN WITHOUT
S ME SOVIET REPONSE..1 ,MfA.E lVER' HF DID NOT WSW EVERY
VISIT BY YOU DR BY PRES.IDENt NIXON TO BE A CAUSE, OF MIS-
UNDERSTANDING ON THe P*R , (1F THE SOVIETS. ORGMYKQ RES-
PD'NDFO THAT BREZHNEV I' . READY TO COME WHEN HE FEELS SADAT
REALLY WANTS TO HAVE ,GOOD PELATIONS WITH THE- SOVIETS.
SS, ADAT SAID HE MEANT THAT ,,HF SAID ABOUT IANT I NG ,GOOD
RELATIONS. AN CONTEXT IIF 1 ESPECT FOR EGYPT PS=..I'NDEPEN FENCE.
1 SADAT THEN GAVE M Y HE CALLED HIS :"+CDNCLU$I MIS'"
SOVIETS FEEL LYTHAT HIS EMERGIN RELATIONS
UNDERMINING ~Mt 'AND ARE TRYING. HARD TO
WITH Y# U ARE
R:FDRESS S'ITUATI'ON.
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B.. THEY RECflGNIUEE, THEIR PREVIOUS POLL 'Y ~QAS IN ERROR
SINCE, OESPI.TF SADAT'S CFF.VPRSOIR nIFFICUL FS. IT NEITHER
E ?BARRASSFD NOR HARRASSED HIM. THEY ARE NO'? TRYING TO
RECTIFY POLICY.
C. THEY ARE SEEKING TO UNPEQM.INE "WHAT 'dE HAVE DONE
T.i7GPTHER," STARTING FROM SIX PLANTS TO PRESENT.
HF HAD LEARNED THIS FROM GGQOMYKO &ND SEPARATELY
F~,13 THE SYRIANS. THUS$, G..DMYKf HAD POINTEnLY NOTED
THERE IS, Nb..LINK BETWEEN THE DISENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT
AND ANY FINIAL ISRAELI WITHnRAWAE_ rROM OCCUPIEr) TERRITORIES.
SADAT HAD CORRECTED. HIM ANA REMINnED HIM THAT THE PRESIDENT
KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS THE nISENG,4r,EMENT AGREEMENT WAS A
MILITARY AGREEMENT. THROU';H IT NnT ONLY THE' OCTOBER LINES
ROT MORE HAD PEEN GOTTEN. OTHER ASPECTS OF A FINAL
SEITLEMFNT HAVE NOT YET BE( -N DDISCUJSSED' BUT WILL BE.
E E.AHMY INTERJECTED HERE TH,i T (,ROMYKO HAD ALSO TAXED HIM ON
THIS POINT. HE HAD. RESPENnED THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE OF
ANYONE OFFERING EGYPTIANS, ANYTHING BETTER.)
0. SOVIETS ARE DOING UTMOST ENGAGE THEMSELVES IN
SYRIAN-ISRAELI DISENGAGE ME ,T TO RESTORE THEIR PRESTIGE.
I ~ THIS CONNECTION, GRI.IMYKn SI]Ur;HT TO OBTAIN S-ADAT' S
APPROVAL FOR A 5-ME .MBER MISSION AF GENEVA E SOV I EATS, US,
Er,;YPTIANS, .SYRIANS, AND ISAELIS) TO CONDUCT PERTINENT
WHEN TELLING .ME THIS, SADAT ExPRE SSE0 AMUSE-
ME.NT SINCE ASSAD HAD BY THEN ALREADY AGREED TO SEND STIMEON+.
Ts',.'WASHINGTON. HE HAD NOT SO INDICATED TO flROMYKD? HOWEVE
AND ('HUCKLEO AbOUT WHAT GRr)MYKO'S REACTION "UST HAVE KEEN
WHEN HE READ. THIS NEWS IN THIS 'AO:'NING1S PAPERS.
1.;.. SADDAT HAD TOLD G,ROMYKr THAT HE IS A4 IFUS FACILITATE
SYRIAN n ISENGA.GE MENT PROCESS. HE. POINTED E UT -THAT ASSAD
1Ar'?ES NOT WANT A SYRIA N-ISRnELI. Cf1MMITTEEE, FE=ARING THAT
S3 Ct , WOULD CAUSE HIM TO, BE BRANflErl "TRAITOR." SADAT WAS
READY, ,THEREFORE, TO HAVE SYRIANS PARTICIPATE IN EGYPTIAN-
ISfAFIt COMMITTEE AND HAD ALREADY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT
THIS. GROMYKO'S PERSISTENT EFFORTS TO &T t NEW COMMITTEE
D! FIVE ESTABLISHED HAD BEEN REJECTED. (FA0MY INTERJECTED
HERB THAT GROMYKO WANTS.TO PUT 3O`~FTHING ABOUT THIS IN THE
FINAL COMMUNIQUE. SAQA'TI CAUTIONED) HIM TO SAY NOTHING ABt)UT
SYRIA.) HE HAD ALSO TOLD GROMY!VO THAT IF S 1VIETS AND US
W.IS$' TO JOIN THAT COMMITTEE, HE COULD HAVE NO OBJECTION.
NEE', HAD POINTFn OUT, HDti+iEVEu, THAT ISRAELIS ARE UNLIKELY TO
AC;RFE To SIVIET/US PARTIC'I.PATI.ON.
1=,. 'GROMYKO HAD THEN A55KEi; THAT, A REFERENCE= TO SOVIET AND
USS PARTICIPATION IN. EGYPTIA:N-ISPA;-LI MILITA'Y COMMITTEE BE
INCLUDED IN COMMUNIQUE. IH MY PRFSENCE, SA.r~AT INSTRUCTED
F ARMY TO. "FIND SOMETH It4G" ~ NOOYNMtC Tn PUT INTO THE COMMUN I Q :'
AND SUGGESTEn GROMYKE3 RE.TrIL0 HP SHOULD SPEAK TO ASSAD
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164 IN CONCLUSION, ;SADAT ASKED M;:- TO. PASS nN TO Y,?U THAT
"WE PUST CONTINUE TO COOPF ATE f;N SAME LINES AS BFFU E.
.,;THjNG NAS CHANGED FROM My SIC),. EVERYTHI G W AGk'E 1.)
UPGN WILL BE CARRIED OUT AT PROPER TIME." .;E Af)OE0 THAT
H~. LrOKS FORWARDTO YOUR VISIT .F PIER YOUR M='%SCf34 TRIP.
1.7. SAr?AT AND .FAHMY ASKFO THE- R,1VE HE SENT TO YOU
T- RN.JGH THIS CHANNEL. StJMc OTH-R SUBJECTS rISCUSSEf7 ARE
T? :PPPTEr, HY SIf=PARATE MFSSA(:ES.
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